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Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum



 
 
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Old April 6th 07, 11:10 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

On Apr 6, 4:18 pm, "Rob" wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:05 pm, "samsloan" wrote:



On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, "Rob" wrote:


On Apr 6, 2:20 pm, "samsloan" wrote:


At 01:52 PM 4/6/2007 EDT, wrote:


In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
writes: Why is not this a valid subject for
discussion on the USCF Issues Forum?
Because you are an Executive Board member and as such it belongs in the BINFO's and most likely in the confidential BINFO's since you are discussing the personal life of an employee of the USCF. There are some issues in personnel that are simply private issues and belong inside the domain of the management of USCF and not the public purview. A little respect for privacy would go a long way.
Donna


Sorry, but I disagree. With respect to a regular mid-level employee I
agree with you. However, the Executive Director is the public face of
the organization. When Governor Pataki of New York was hospitalized,
it was all over the news including the frequency of his bowel
movements. If Bill Hall frequently does not come to work because of an
"infected toe" and then a car accident, the members need to know about
it, especially since the real problem is board inaction and
incompetence in dealing with this issue.


And yes, I said it. This board is incompetent.


I myself did not know that Bill Hall was frequently absent from work
until about two months ago. I knew that other members of the board
were unhappy with Bill Hall and even wanted to fire him, but I did not
know the reason, until somebody leaked me this little secret.


I would like to see some legal authority to support your claim that
the Executive Director of a 501(c)(4) corporation has a "right to
privacy" which protects him from having it revealed that he cannot do
his job.


Sam Sloan


Sam,
I have provided the information in previous posts. You are free to
call the phone number yourself to get clairification. It doe not
matter what kind of organization it is. You screwed up.


Sorry, you lose again.


I just called the number you posted here (866) 627-7748 and spoke to
Mr. Carter there.


Mr. Carter said "in no way, shape or form" would the USCF be subject
to the HIPPA privacy rules.


Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text -


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Sam,
Quite odd how you got through to a government hotline on a day when
Federal Offices are closed? How did you manage that?


Since when was today a federal holiday.

Today is Friday, April 6. No holiday today.

I did not speak to an answering machine. I spoke to a person who said
his name was Carter.

Sam Sloan

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Old April 6th 07, 11:44 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote:
Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel


Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth?

Two can play this game.

Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is
in the office.

Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody
could get through to them.

Have they paid their telephone bill?

Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question?

Sam Sloan

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Old April 7th 07, 12:18 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

On Apr 6, 5:44 pm, "samsloan" wrote:
At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote:

Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel


Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth?

Two can play this game.

Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is
in the office.

Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody
could get through to them.

Have they paid their telephone bill?

Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question?

Sam Sloan


That is a lie Sam I spoke to everyone at the Crossville office today.

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Old April 7th 07, 02:44 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
samsloan
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

On Apr 6, 7:18 pm, "Rob" wrote:
On Apr 6, 5:44 pm, "samsloan" wrote:



At 06:26 PM 4/6/2007 -0400, Joel Channing wrote:


Meaning what? That I'm not telling the truth? Joel


Meaning what? That I am not telling the truth?


Two can play this game.


Just because you can reach him on the phone does not mean that he is
in the office.


Today, the phones in the Crossville office were not working. Nobody
could get through to them.


Have they paid their telephone bill?


Will I be banned, censured or reprimanded for asking this question?


Sam Sloan


That is a lie Sam I spoke to everyone at the Crossville office today.


You should not use the word "lie". That will get you banned.

What time today did you speak to them? I understand that their phones
went back on at about noontime.

Still not a good sign.

Sam Sloan

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Old April 7th 07, 08:49 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum



Ambassador wrote:
[snip]

Ambassador, please stop flooding rec.games.chess.computer with posts that
have nothing to do with computer chess.

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Old April 7th 07, 08:50 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum



Rob wrote:
[snip]

Rob, please stop flooding rec.games.chess.computer with posts that
have nothing to do with computer chess.

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Old April 7th 07, 08:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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samsloan wrote:
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samsloan, eat **** and die.


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Old April 7th 07, 10:27 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
Kenneth Sloan
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

samsloan wrote:

You should not use the word "lie". That will get you banned.


That's a lie.

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Old April 12th 07, 05:09 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Marcus Roberts is a LIAR


I am a former officer (Vice President) and Life member of the United
States Chess Federation. I wrote a memo once to that idiot (for which,
the ICC exists today) that he refused to read. It was returend with
two typos. Don stated that at IBM that after the second error in
grammer, they quit reading. I offered the entire ICC setup to the
USCF, and they wouldn't not meet with me (an officer) about it. That
was one reason I quit. Why be an corporate officer with fools? History
shows, I became a multimillionare because I QUIT as a USCF corproate
officer. I used my time to make money, instead of listen to people
comment on my spelling.

As a young USCF delegate (1991-1992) with a CS degree, I proposed the
ICC. It was refused becasue of spelling.

Marcus Roberts


ICC didn't exist in 1991-1992, moron.


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Old August 12th 07, 02:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Default Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

On 6 Apr 2007 05:23:15 -0700, "samsloan" wrote:

Appeal from Decision Suspending Sam Sloan from USCF Issues Forum

I hereby appeal from the two decisions of the Forum Oversight
Committee suspending me from posting to the USCF Issues Forum for one
week each.

I appeal on the following grounds:

1. My posting, which stated that the USCF Executive Director, Bill
Hall, is chronically absent from work is valid commentary. The members
are entitled to know that the Executive Director often does not come
into work. That is a legitimate USCF issue and thus is a proper
discussion on the forum. In addition, there is the issue that the
Executive Board has failed to take any action against this chronically
absent employee. Bill Hall is still on the job drawing a high salary
even when he is not there. The members are entitled to know about this
and to discuss this subject.

Sam Sloan


During the election campaign period, I was suspended from posting to
the USCF Forums for one week for revealing that the Executive Director
had constant health and absenteeism problems during the entire two
years that he had been executive director.

This was only one of several times that I was suspended from posting
during the election campaign period for revealing the truth.

Bill Hall was in the hospital in Philadelphia for most of the week of
July 28-August 4, 2007 and then attended the August 4-5 delegates'
meetings in a wheelchair with his foot in a bandage.

This is no longer a secret as it was plainly obvious for everyone who
attended the meetings to see.

Will I be suspended again for revealing the truth?

Sam Sloan
 




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