I'm tring to install a bit of software on a SunPCi card. Much against
my better judgement, I bought this piece of software which is
protected by a product from Macrovision. The basic idea of the
protection system is that you need to occassionly insert the original
disk in the CD-ROM drive of the computer. (I assume you can't copy the
original in a CD burner).

The problem I'm having is that the installation program starts to run
from the CD-ROM, but then asks me to insert the CD. Clearly the CD is
inserterd, otherwise the install program would not run in the first
place.

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

The software I'm trying to install is a bit of games software
(Chessmaster 9000), which fortunately was cheap, but I'd like to
install it on the Sun.

Dr. David Kirkby

I answered this question the first time you asked it some months ago.
Get the program "Alcohol 52%" from www.alcohol-soft.com . The program is
free and what it does is that it creates an image of the cd and a virtual
cd-drive to load it in. It also copes with any copy protection I've ever
encountered. You never replied the previous time I posted this solution to
your problem so I assume that you for some reason missed it.

Yours Sincerely
Anders Lang


"Dr. David Kirkby" m skrev
i meddelandet om...
I'm tring to install a bit of software on a SunPCi card. Much against
my better judgement, I bought this piece of software which is
protected by a product from Macrovision. The basic idea of the
protection system is that you need to occassionly insert the original
disk in the CD-ROM drive of the computer. (I assume you can't copy the
original in a CD burner).

The problem I'm having is that the installation program starts to run
from the CD-ROM, but then asks me to insert the CD. Clearly the CD is
inserterd, otherwise the install program would not run in the first
place.

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

The software I'm trying to install is a bit of games software
(Chessmaster 9000), which fortunately was cheap, but I'd like to
install it on the Sun.

Dr. David Kirkby

"Anders Lang" wrote in message ...
I answered this question the first time you asked it some months ago.
Get the program "Alcohol 52%" from www.alcohol-soft.com . The program is
free and what it does is that it creates an image of the cd and a virtual
cd-drive to load it in. It also copes with any copy protection I've ever
encountered. You never replied the previous time I posted this solution to
your problem so I assume that you for some reason missed it.

Yours Sincerely
Anders Lang

Kirby thought you meant drink to drink a 1/5th of 104 Proof Vodka.

It didn't solve his Chessmaster copy protection issue, but it did keep
him off r.g.c.c for a few days.

We appreciate it.




"Dr. David Kirkby" m skrev
i meddelandet om...
I'm tring to install a bit of software on a SunPCi card. Much against
my better judgement, I bought this piece of software which is
protected by a product from Macrovision. The basic idea of the
protection system is that you need to occassionly insert the original
disk in the CD-ROM drive of the computer. (I assume you can't copy the
original in a CD burner).

The problem I'm having is that the installation program starts to run
from the CD-ROM, but then asks me to insert the CD. Clearly the CD is
inserterd, otherwise the install program would not run in the first
place.

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

The software I'm trying to install is a bit of games software
(Chessmaster 9000), which fortunately was cheap, but I'd like to
install it on the Sun.

Dr. David Kirkby

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

CD copy protection systems, such as Macrovision, work by modulating some
characteristic of the original disc which is difficult or at least not
apparently necessary to duplicate. For example, sub-channel data.
Assuming the CD-ROM drive in question is emulated rather than attached
to IDE connectors on the board, the problem may be that the virtual
drive isn't a detailed enough simulation to satisfy the installer that
you have an original disc. As I see it you have two options:

i) Use CD virtualising software (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread)
to make an image of the disc and mount the image under Windows. Note
that you will have to make the image on a (non-SunPCi) machine with a
directly attached CD-ROM drive.

ii) Find a crack for the Macrovision protection.

--
Wishing you good fortune,
--Robin Kay-- (komadori)

Actually the 52% is currently being given away free via several magazines
(all you need to do is register on their website). The offer also includes a
discount on the upgrade to 120%.
I just assumed that you could download the free version from their site as
well.

Yours

Anders Lang


"CeeBee" skrev i meddelandet
. 6.84...
"Anders Lang" wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:

I answered this question the first time you asked it some months ago.
Get the program "Alcohol 52%" from www.alcohol-soft.com . The program
is free

Just FTR, it's not free, it's shareware - there's a trial period. Don't
know if it's just the software expiring or the image. Guess the first
and not the latter?

--
CeeBee


EMH Mark I: "Stop breathing down my neck."
EMH Mark II: "My breath is merely a simulation."
EMH Mark I: "So is my neck. Stop it anyway."

"Dr. David Kirkby" m skrev
i meddelandet om...
I'm tring to install a bit of software on a SunPCi card. Much against
my better judgement, I bought this piece of software which is
protected by a product from Macrovision. The basic idea of the
protection system is that you need to occassionly insert the original
disk in the CD-ROM drive of the computer. (I assume you can't copy the
original in a CD burner).

The problem I'm having is that the installation program starts to run
from the CD-ROM, but then asks me to insert the CD. Clearly the CD is
inserterd, otherwise the install program would not run in the first
place.

Any suggestions?

"Anders Lang" wrote in message ...
I answered this question the first time you asked it some months ago.
Get the program "Alcohol 52%" from www.alcohol-soft.com . The program is
free and what it does is that it creates an image of the cd and a virtual
cd-drive to load it in. It also copes with any copy protection I've ever
encountered. You never replied the previous time I posted this solution to
your problem so I assume that you for some reason missed it.

Yours Sincerely
Anders Lang

Sorry, I missed your post, so did not try that software. I'll do as
someone suggested and copy the CD image on another machine (a Windoze
PC with an IDE CD-rewriter). Then I'll put the image on a tape, take
it home, and try it on the Sun.

The Sun does not have an IDE CD-drive, but uses the Sun's SCSI one.

Robin KAY wrote in message ...
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

CD copy protection systems, such as Macrovision, work by modulating some
characteristic of the original disc which is difficult or at least not
apparently necessary to duplicate. For example, sub-channel data.
Assuming the CD-ROM drive in question is emulated rather than attached
to IDE connectors on the board, the problem may be that the virtual
drive isn't a detailed enough simulation to satisfy the installer that
you have an original disc. As I see it you have two options:

Yes, I suspect the virtual drive might not be okay. I was rather
hoping Sun would have a patch, to improve this, but I guess running
games software on a Sun workstation is not that typical. That said, I
guess there are other programs that use copy protection systems, that
might fail to work on the SunPCi card.

i) Use CD virtualising software (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread)
to make an image of the disc and mount the image under Windows. Note
that you will have to make the image on a (non-SunPCi) machine with a
directly attached CD-ROM drive.

I'll do that on a machine at work, with a IDE cd drive. The Sun's
drive is SCSI. but more importantly it is emulated under Windoze.

ii) Find a crack for the Macrovision protection.

BTW, I have received no support from either Macrovision or Ubisoft on
this, despite contacting both companies.

Dr. David Kirkby.

(Dr. David Kirkby) wrote in message . com...
Robin KAY wrote in message ...
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's
disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in
the drive. That did not work. The CD functions fine with other
software, but not this copy protected stuff that is protected by
Macrovision's copy protection.

CD copy protection systems, such as Macrovision, work by modulating some
characteristic of the original disc which is difficult or at least not
apparently necessary to duplicate. For example, sub-channel data.
Assuming the CD-ROM drive in question is emulated rather than attached
to IDE connectors on the board, the problem may be that the virtual
drive isn't a detailed enough simulation to satisfy the installer that
you have an original disc. As I see it you have two options:

Yes, I suspect the virtual drive might not be okay. I was rather
hoping Sun would have a patch, to improve this, but I guess running
games software on a Sun workstation is not that typical. That said, I
guess there are other programs that use copy protection systems, that
might fail to work on the SunPCi card.

i) Use CD virtualising software (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread)
to make an image of the disc and mount the image under Windows. Note
that you will have to make the image on a (non-SunPCi) machine with a
directly attached CD-ROM drive.

I'll do that on a machine at work, with a IDE cd drive. The Sun's
drive is SCSI. but more importantly it is emulated under Windoze.

ii) Find a crack for the Macrovision protection.

BTW, I have received no support from either Macrovision or Ubisoft on
this, despite contacting both companies.

Why would you expect then to contact you. Their hardware
requirements are stated on the box. Typically when a user decided to
use something outside the requirements - , the user is on their own.
Espcially when they are just one user out of how many (x,xxx,xxx) that
are trying to run CM9K on a Sun.

One attempt to help and they will have lost money on your purchase and
any help provided would not be of any use to any (just about) other
user. There resources are better dedicated to helping users that are
having troubles that have hardware that meet the requirements.

For you to expect to help you is selfish on your part and as a doctor
you should know better Kirby. Helping you is like a doctor helping a
100 year old man live one extra day while 10 new born babies go
unattended and you are the 100 year old man screaming for medical
attention when there is little they can do about it anyway.

Take a hike.






Dr. David Kirkby.

(Michael Byrne) wrote in message

BTW, I have received no support from either Macrovision or Ubisoft on
this, despite contacting both companies.

Why would you expect then to contact you. Their hardware
requirements are stated on the box. Typically when a user decided to
use something outside the requirements - , the user is on their own.
Espcially when they are just one user out of how many (x,xxx,xxx) that
are trying to run CM9K on a Sun.

As somehas has said, the SunPCi card meets *all* the hardware
requrements for chessmaster 9000. I normally run XP (which is not
supported by Chessmaster 9000, but many say Chessmaster 9000 does work
under XP). But with the SunPCi card it is easy to boot 98SE too (which
is supported by Chessmater 9000, but won't work either).

One attempt to help and they will have lost money on your purchase and
any help provided would not be of any use to any (just about) other
user. There resources are better dedicated to helping users that are
having troubles that have hardware that meet the requirements.

Well as I say, my hardware does meet the requirements.

There is another issue here, which many don't appreciate (especially
Windoze and Linux developers). Bugs that only appear on one operating
system, but not on another, do usually show an underlying bug in the
code which should be investigated. I've seen Linux developers say "it
works under redhat, which is the most common linux distro, so that is
good enough for me".

I have written software

http://atlc.sourceforge.net/

which works fine on Solaris, fine under Windoze, fine under Linux on a
PC and numerous other systems I could mention. But it sometimes fails
to run perfectly under IBM's AIX operating system if support for
multiple processors is enabled.

Now I can take two attitudes.

1) Ignore it, since few (in fact no) users have reported running the
software under IBM's AIX operating system. I just happen to have an
IBM RS/6000 here, so tested it myself and discovered it sometimes
fails if multiple CPUs are used in parallel.

2) Investigate why it fails under AIX.

I chose (2), and found the bug was in my code, and it was more by luck
than anything else that it failed to show up under all the more common
operating systems. The bug was not a fault of IBM's AIX, buy my
testing procedures had seen it under AIX.

So I do feel there is often a point in investigating obscure/rare
bugs. They usually indicate an underlying problem, which if not
corrected, gets propogated from one version of the software to the
next.

I don't know how 'wine' works, which gives you a windoze enviroment
under linux, but I suspect that might use emulated CD drives too.

For you to expect to help you is selfish on your part and as a doctor
you should know better Kirby.

The name is Kirkby not Kirby (an easy mistake to make I would admit),
and as someone else has pointed out, I have a Ph.D, with no medical
qualifications at all.

Take a hike.

I'd rather play chess.

Dr. David Kirkby.

Tim writes:

And their website:

* WindowsÒ 98/ME/XP
(95 and 2000 are not supported)

* PentiumÒ II 450 or AMD K6-3 500

* 64 MB RAM for 98 & ME (128 Recommended)
128 MB RAM for XP (256 Recommended)

* DirectX 8.1 (included on disc)

* Video Card (DirectX 8.1 compatible)

* 300 MB Hard Drive Space

* 3D Video Card optional

* 56K modem for Internet play

Interesting, it doesn't say "CD rom player to work with
copyprotection".

I'm running quite a few copyprotected[1] CDs from images
because my kids have shown not to handle them with due
care. I'm using CloneCD and daemontools; others will work
fine too, I'm sure.

Casper

[1] but legally owned, of course.
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.