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Israel Silverman wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote: That seems the most likely, though it could be "kills you". Upon further thought, I agree that there is a significant probability that it could be "kills you." But many times out of the probability space such a variant, if intended to mean that, would be chosen only if a more common form was unavailable. Not at all. It's fashionable among many people on the internet to use these alternative spellings in everyday speech. All the time, you see people typing things like `wot is ur name' when there's nothing at all, apart from personal preference, that prevents them typing the more common `What is your name?' Such a person would be very likely to choose a username that reflected their spelling preferences. Dave. -- David Richerby Indelible Gnome (TM): it's like a www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ smiling garden ornament but it can't be erased! |
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Israel Silverman wrote: A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew." Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been around for years. Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without you having to manufacture new ones without evidence. |
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On Mar 6, 6:52 am, "Israel Silverman"
wrote: Also, I doubt if another race were stuck in there, it would have been as acceptable. Why is it that Jews are considered a /race/ by those who complain of anti-semitism? Have the Jews not traveled extensively, spreading out among other cultures and intermarrying? Does it make sense to consider such peoples as though they were a pure "race", like say the Aussie aborigines? I tend to think of Jews as "those who believe in and practice Judaism"; in other words, the fact that they may be of mixed decent is quite irrelevant. Perhaps this discrepancy explains why there is so much confusion surrounding chess players, like say, Bobby Fischer. The people who are fixated on race will proclaim him to be a Jew, while I see such claims as very questionable attempts to snatch the credit for what was achieved by a man who, immediately after winning the world title, joined the Worldwide Church of God -- which is certainly not a Jewish sect of any sort. As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb? -- help bot |
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Israel Silverman wrote: Upon further thought, I agree that there is a significant probability that it could be "kills you." But many times out of the probability space such a variant, if intended to mean that, would be chosen only if a more common form was unavailable. I checked and both "Killsyou" and "killsu" were still available. Neither are standard 1337Speak (Elite Speak). "killz Joo" is. References: 1337Speak- The Guide http://the.mysterious.alex.googlepages.com/ An Explanation of l33t Speak http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A787917 Wikipedia: L33t http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t Game Geek’s Goss: Linguistic Creativity In Young Males Within An Online University Forum" http://www.swinburne.edu.au/sbs/ajet...-2-Blashki.pdf Is There A Translator in Teh House?": Cultural and Discourse Analysis of a Virtual Speech Community on an Internet Message Board http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/et...anc_thesis.pdf relax we understand j00 http://www.case.edu/orgs/sigmataudel...understand.htm |
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:36:14 -0800 in
help bot wrote: As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb? Jugoslavia / Yugoslavia (I think)? Stephan -- Stephan Bird MChem(Hons) AMRSC EMOVE Currently in Caernarfon, Wales. |
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On Mar 6, 1:46 pm, Stephan Bird
wrote: As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb? Jugoslavia / Yugoslavia (I think)? Ahhh, it all makes sense now. Ever since "we", that is, the USA invaded and conquered that country, Yugoslavians have been forced to speak English! Even their chess openings are not safe; we Americans now play the Slav, simply because we are tired of losing to the Nimzo Indians and other tribes (Commanche, Apache, Hungarian, etc.) But... ve vill not tolerate zheir so-called cars, zie "Yugo" piece of scrap heap! Bring us more Japanese: Toyota! Honda! Hey, the latest edition of Consumer Reports magazine has an advertisement in which a local car dealer asks: are you gonna buy American, or do you want to support those commies by buying Japanese? (So, while we were busy taking control of Yugo- slavia, we apparently let the commies infiltrate and take over Japan... .) :D -- help bot |
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On Mar 5, 8:33*pm, "Israel Silverman"
wrote: On the internet, no one knows if you're a dog. But some people care if you are Jewish. And anti-semitism is alive and well, in places you'd hardly expect to find it. Maybe so many of you supporting the Jewish terrorist state of Israel has something to do with it. I play chess on various online services. There is ICS, the internet chess club. There is also a free internet chess server, called FICS. FICS has always been a nice place to visit, play a few games. The administration prides itself on keeping a friendly atmosphere, free of the real world strife that all of us face. IT even advertises itself as a family friendly place. And so, the last place you'd expect to find anti-semitism tolerated is FICS. You'd be wrong. A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew." I figured that this must have just passed by some tired administrator, and so I messaged the online admin, and asked him to do something about it. He refused, and said I should email an admin who deals with abuse. I did, and began a surrealistic email conversation, in which he insisted that there was nothing FICS was going to do about it, because it could mean anything, and the user had not placed any antisemitic comments in his user profile. When I asked what other reasonable meaning that user name could have, he suggested that I ask the user myself.. I asked him to confirm that this was the official position of FICS, and I emailed others within FICS, and have not received any response. All I can assume is that anti-semitism there is ok, as long as it is not so baltant that it becomes obvions to a child under 3. |
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help bot wrote:
As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for "y" is intended. In most Germanic languages, the letter J is pronounced like the Y in `you'. Dave. -- David Richerby Perforated Tongs (TM): it's like a www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ pair of tongs but it's full of holes! |
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As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb? I have heard "joo" used in oral conversation years ago to mean "you." I still think it's unlikely in this context. |
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wrote in message ... Israel Silverman wrote: A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew." Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been around for years. Well, if that's so, then I truly have read everything. Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without you having to manufacture new ones without evidence. I would hardly characterize this as "without evidence." Certainly, some doubt has been introduced, but that hardly turns the whole thing into "without evidence" |
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