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  #31  
Old March 8th 08, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Israel Silverman View Post
Doc, I appreciate your free psychological analysis, but you're still not
getting a recommendation letter from me to psych school. You'll still have
to keep seeing your clinic patients for their medicare amounts.

"yearlypap08" wrote in message
...

FICS ignored your concern, and you lack any power to change their
opinion. This is what feeds your obsession.




--
yearlypap08
It's logic, not psychology. You are allowing
reaction to override reason. Look at the evidence
against your claim:
Wikipedia on leetspeak:
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t :
"Joo takes the place of 'you',[2] originating from
the affricate sound that occurs in place of the palatal
approximant, /j/, when you follows a word ending in
an alveolar plosive consonant, such as /d/ or /z/. "
[2] = An Explanation of 1337
(http://linuxreviews.org/dictionary/Leet/).

A search on the leetspeak version of Google demonstrates
that 'killzjoo' enjoys a pervasive presence in gaming website
conversations and player listings, as presented by others
already:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=xx-h...ogle+s3a%7C2ch
I KILLZJOO!!! OMFWTFGLAWLZ?!?! Uggh freaking BB code smileys


Mr.Silverman:
From this evidence,and evidence provided by others,
it is reasonable that an online gamer is using the
term 'killzjoo' on FICS in a boastful, not anti-semitic
manner.

It is also reasonable that the computer geeks at FICS
quickly recognized 'killzjoo' as gamer lingo. That's why
they were able to come to a quick and easy decision
against your claim.

The title of both your threads assert that Anti-Semitism
exists on FICS. This assertion is no longer a reasonable
one to make. But if you're still feeling a reaction against
their easy decision, then perhaps you should feel some
relief that the title of these threads did some damage against
their reputation, if that was your goal.

Mr.Silverman, there must be a generational or cultural gap
that divides you from the online gaming community. I can only
hope that you've gained some perspective by this process.
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  #32  
Old March 9th 08, 03:20 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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yearlypap08 wrote:

It's logic, not psychology. You are allowing
reaction to override reason. Look at the evidence
against your claim:
Wikipedia on leetspeak:
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t :
"Joo takes the place of 'you',[2] originating from
the affricate sound that occurs in place of the palatal
approximant, /j/, when you follows a word ending in
an alveolar plosive consonant, such as /d/ or /z/. "
[2] = An Explanation of 1337
(http://linuxreviews.org/dictionary/Leet/).

A search on the leetspeak version of Google demonstrates
that 'killzjoo' enjoys a pervasive presence in gaming website
conversations and player listings, as presented by others
already:
http://tinyurl.com/22wnk8
I KILLZJOO!!! OMFWTFGLAWLZ?!?! Uggh freaking BB code smileys


Mr.Silverman:
From this evidence,and evidence provided by others,
it is reasonable that an online gamer is using the
term 'killzjoo' on FICS in a boastful, not anti-semitic
manner.

It is also reasonable that the computer geeks at FICS
quickly recognized 'killzjoo' as gamer lingo. That's why
they were able to come to a quick and easy decision
against your claim.

The title of both your threads assert that Anti-Semitism
exists on FICS. This assertion is no longer a reasonable
one to make. But if you're still feeling a reaction against
their easy decision, then perhaps you should feel some
relief that the title of these threads did some damage against
their reputation, if that was your goal.


If Israel Silverman is an honorable person, he will now retract
his slander against FICS based on the overwhelming evidence
posted here in the last few days. If he doesn't retract his
slander. he is giving weight to all the bad things the anti-
semites say about Jews. The good news is that most Jews,
unlike Israel Silverman, do have honor and don't trash the
reputation of others without evidence.

  #33  
Old March 9th 08, 02:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
Israel Silverman
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It is also reasonable that the computer geeks at FICS
quickly recognized 'killzjoo' as gamer lingo. That's why
they were able to come to a quick and easy decision
against your claim.

The title of both your threads assert that Anti-Semitism
exists on FICS. This assertion is no longer a reasonable
one to make. But if you're still feeling a reaction against
their easy decision, then perhaps you should feel some
relief that the title of these threads did some damage against
their reputation, if that was your goal.


If Israel Silverman is an honorable person, he will now retract
his slander against FICS based on the overwhelming evidence
posted here in the last few days. If he doesn't retract his
slander. he is giving weight to all the bad things the anti-
semites say about Jews. The good news is that most Jews,
unlike Israel Silverman, do have honor and don't trash the
reputation of others without evidence.


No "computer geeks" at FICs "quickly recognized" anything of the sort.
Rather, they shifted the burden to me of proving that "killzjoo" was
intended as a slur against Jews. Several days after reading the usenet
messages here, one of them finally responded substantively.

As for your conclusion that what I am doing is "giving weight to all the bad
things the antisemites say about Jews," perhaps you should look in the
mirror and recognize yourself for what you are.


  #34  
Old March 9th 08, 04:01 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Israel Silverman wrote:

It is also reasonable that the computer geeks at FICS
quickly recognized 'killzjoo' as gamer lingo. That's why
they were able to come to a quick and easy decision
against your claim.

The title of both your threads assert that Anti-Semitism
exists on FICS. This assertion is no longer a reasonable
one to make. But if you're still feeling a reaction against
their easy decision, then perhaps you should feel some
relief that the title of these threads did some damage against
their reputation, if that was your goal.


If Israel Silverman is an honorable person, he will now retract
his slander against FICS based on the overwhelming evidence
posted here in the last few days. If he doesn't retract his
slander. he is giving weight to all the bad things the anti-
semites say about Jews. The good news is that most Jews,
unlike Israel Silverman, do have honor and don't trash the
reputation of others without evidence.


No "computer geeks" at FICs "quickly recognized" anything of the sort.
Rather, they shifted the burden to me of proving that "killzjoo" was
intended as a slur against Jews. Several days after reading the usenet
messages here, one of them finally responded substantively.

As for your conclusion that what I am doing is "giving weight to all the bad
things the antisemites say about Jews," perhaps you should look in the
mirror and recognize yourself for what you are.


Someone who doesn't like it when he sees a false accusation of
Anti-Semitism by someone who refuses to apologize after being
shown to be a false accuser?

You have no honor.

  #35  
Old March 9th 08, 09:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
Israel Silverman
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Default Anti-Semitism on FICS (Free Internet Chess Server)


As for your conclusion that what I am doing is "giving weight to all the
bad
things the antisemites say about Jews," perhaps you should look in the
mirror and recognize yourself for what you are.


Someone who doesn't like it when he sees a false accusation of
Anti-Semitism by someone who refuses to apologize after being
shown to be a false accuser?

You have no honor.


Chuckle. *I* have no honor? This from someone who tells me that I am proving
the truth of things that anti-semites say about Jews (I so appreciate your
heartfelt concern that I not do so), and whose name is ?

Crawl back into your rathole, Mr. me.





  #36  
Old March 10th 08, 03:56 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Israel Silverman wrote:

perhaps you should look in the mirror and recognize yourself
for what you are.


Someone who doesn't like it when he sees a false accusation of
Anti-Semitism by someone who refuses to apologize after being
shown to be a false accuser?

You have no honor.


Chuckle. *I* have no honor? This from someone who


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Crawl back into your rathole, Mr. me.


Apologize to FICS for falsely accusing them, Mr. Silverman.

Whether or not you like *ME*, you should apologize to *THEM*.

They are your victims.

Refusing to apologize to them shows that you have no honor.

  #37  
Old March 19th 08, 09:15 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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Get a life, Silverman. Quit being so sensitive and defensive, and
quit being so rabidly ethnocentric. You remind me of the caveman in
the TV commercials, but you are much worse. Are you an adult? Have
you ever heard "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will
never hurt me?"

The issue isn't whether this guy is an anti-semite or not, and it
isn't whether this guy's name means "kill the jew" or something else.
The issue is *YOU*. Who cares what his name means? If it bothers
you, go see a psychiatrist, and grow up. Don't you have better things
to do with your time than look for ways to be offended? Besides, ever
heard of free speech?
  #38  
Old March 22nd 08, 02:13 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 19, 2:15 pm, wrote:

The issue isn't whether this guy is an anti-semite or not, and it
isn't whether this guy's name means "kill the jew" or something else.
The issue is *YOU*. Who cares what his name means? If it bothers
you, go see a psychiatrist, and grow up. Don't you have better things
to do with your time than look for ways to be offended? Besides, ever
heard of free speech?


No, that's not true. There were REAL PEOPLE out there who actually DID
*kill* Jews.

So we have to make sure that this will NEVER AGAIN happen. If there
are people out there who hate Jews, they must be found, and locked up,
so that they can never hurt anyone.

Whether it's in a concentration camp - or in downtown New York office
towers.

John Savard

  #39  
Old March 22nd 08, 04:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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Quadibloc wrote:


On Mar 19, 2:15 pm, wrote:

The issue isn't whether this guy is an anti-semite or not, and it
isn't whether this guy's name means "kill the jew" or something else.
The issue is *YOU*. Who cares what his name means? If it bothers
you, go see a psychiatrist, and grow up. Don't you have better things
to do with your time than look for ways to be offended? Besides, ever
heard of free speech?


No, that's not true. There were REAL PEOPLE out there who actually DID
*kill* Jews.

So we have to make sure that this will NEVER AGAIN happen. If there
are people out there who hate Jews, they must be found, and locked up,
so that they can never hurt anyone.

Whether it's in a concentration camp - or in downtown New York office
towers.

John Savard


Sorry, John, but FICS is in the USA, where thoughtcrime
is not against the law -- nor should it be. In a free
society, one is allowed to hate Jews, Whites, Blacks,
or even one-legged Lithuanian organ grinders without
fear of arrest. One is even allowed to publicly express
such hate. Yes, everyone will know that they are a moron,
but they won't be arrested and put into a concentration
camp. If a free society is unacceptable to you, I believe
that Iran and China still have laws against thoughtcrime...




  #40  
Old March 22nd 08, 06:47 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 22, 10:14 am, wrote:
If a free society is unacceptable to you, I believe
that Iran and China still have laws against thoughtcrime...


You forgot Europe. Among other things, they have laws against "denial
of the holocaust." If you question the holocaust in any way, whether
it is in verbal speech, a written book or letter, etc. you go to
prison. So if this guy is in Europe, he can be happy staying right
where he is.
 




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