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Old March 6th 08, 02:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
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Israel Silverman wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote:
That seems the most likely, though it could be "kills you".


Upon further thought, I agree that there is a significant
probability that it could be "kills you." But many times out of the
probability space such a variant, if intended to mean that, would be
chosen only if a more common form was unavailable.


Not at all. It's fashionable among many people on the internet to use
these alternative spellings in everyday speech. All the time, you see
people typing things like `wot is ur name' when there's nothing at
all, apart from personal preference, that prevents them typing the
more common `What is your name?' Such a person would be very likely
to choose a username that reflected their spelling preferences.


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Old March 6th 08, 06:33 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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Israel Silverman wrote:

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew."


Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been
around for years.

Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord
knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without
you having to manufacture new ones without evidence.

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Old March 6th 08, 06:36 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 6, 6:52 am, "Israel Silverman"
wrote:

Also, I doubt if another race were stuck in there, it would have been as
acceptable.


Why is it that Jews are considered a /race/ by
those who complain of anti-semitism? Have the
Jews not traveled extensively, spreading out
among other cultures and intermarrying? Does
it make sense to consider such peoples as
though they were a pure "race", like say the
Aussie aborigines?

I tend to think of Jews as "those who believe
in and practice Judaism"; in other words, the
fact that they may be of mixed decent is quite
irrelevant. Perhaps this discrepancy explains
why there is so much confusion surrounding
chess players, like say, Bobby Fischer. The
people who are fixated on race will proclaim
him to be a Jew, while I see such claims as
very questionable attempts to snatch the
credit for what was achieved by a man who,
immediately after winning the world title,
joined the Worldwide Church of God -- which
is certainly not a Jewish sect of any sort.

As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone
would choose the letter "j" when the sound
for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo",
because the sound matches, but it simply
doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the
intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


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Old March 6th 08, 07:32 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
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Israel Silverman wrote:

Upon further thought, I agree that there is a significant probability that
it could be "kills you." But many times out of the probability space such a
variant, if intended to mean that, would be chosen only if a more common
form was unavailable. I checked and both "Killsyou" and "killsu" were still
available.


Neither are standard 1337Speak (Elite Speak). "killz Joo" is.

References:

1337Speak- The Guide
http://the.mysterious.alex.googlepages.com/

An Explanation of l33t Speak
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A787917

Wikipedia: L33t
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t

Game Geek’s Goss: Linguistic Creativity In Young
Males Within An Online University Forum"
http://www.swinburne.edu.au/sbs/ajet...-2-Blashki.pdf

Is There A Translator in Teh House?": Cultural and Discourse Analysis
of a Virtual Speech Community on an Internet Message Board
http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/et...anc_thesis.pdf

relax we understand j00
http://www.case.edu/orgs/sigmataudel...understand.htm


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Old March 6th 08, 08:43 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 6, 1:46 pm, Stephan Bird
wrote:

As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone would choose the letter "j"
when the sound for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo", because
the sound matches, but it simply doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is
the intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


Jugoslavia / Yugoslavia (I think)?



Ahhh, it all makes sense now. Ever since "we",
that is, the USA invaded and conquered that
country, Yugoslavians have been forced to speak
English! Even their chess openings are not safe;
we Americans now play the Slav, simply because
we are tired of losing to the Nimzo Indians and
other tribes (Commanche, Apache, Hungarian,
etc.)

But... ve vill not tolerate zheir so-called cars,
zie "Yugo" piece of scrap heap! Bring us more
Japanese: Toyota! Honda! Hey, the latest
edition of Consumer Reports magazine has an
advertisement in which a local car dealer asks:
are you gonna buy American, or do you want to
support those commies by buying Japanese?
(So, while we were busy taking control of Yugo-
slavia, we apparently let the commies infiltrate
and take over Japan... .) :D


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Old March 6th 08, 10:00 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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On Mar 5, 8:33*pm, "Israel Silverman"
wrote:
On the internet, no one knows if you're a dog.

But some people care if you are Jewish. And anti-semitism is alive and well,
in places you'd hardly expect to find it.


Maybe so many of you supporting the Jewish terrorist state of Israel
has something to do with it.


I play chess on various online services. There is ICS, the internet chess
club. There is also a free internet chess server, called FICS. FICS has
always been a nice place to visit, play a few games. The administration
prides itself on keeping a friendly atmosphere, free of the real world
strife that all of us face. IT even advertises itself as a family friendly
place. And so, the last place you'd expect to find anti-semitism tolerated
is FICS. You'd be wrong.

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew." I figured that this must have just
passed by some tired administrator, and so I messaged the online admin, and
asked him to do something about it. He refused, and said I should email an
admin who deals with abuse. I did, and began a surrealistic email
conversation, in which he insisted that there was nothing FICS was going to
do about it, because it could mean anything, and the user had not placed any
antisemitic comments in his user profile. When I asked what other reasonable
meaning that user name could have, he suggested that I ask the user myself..

I asked him to confirm that this was the official position of FICS, and I
emailed others within FICS, and have not received any response. All I can
assume is that anti-semitism there is ok, as long as it is not so baltant
that it becomes obvions to a child under 3.


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Old March 6th 08, 10:02 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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help bot wrote:
As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you", I would like someone to
explain why anyone would choose the letter "j" when the sound for
"y" is intended.


In most Germanic languages, the letter J is pronounced like the Y in
`you'.


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Old March 7th 08, 02:10 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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As for the claims that "joo" can mean "you",
I would like someone to explain why anyone
would choose the letter "j" when the sound
for "y" is intended. I can see "joo" for "zoo",
because the sound matches, but it simply
doesn't fit to use a "j" where "yue" is the
intended sound. Are teenagers *that* dumb?


I have heard "joo" used in oral conversation years ago to mean "you."

I still think it's unlikely in this context.


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Old March 7th 08, 02:14 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.jewish
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Israel Silverman wrote:

A day ago, I played a game with a fellow who, I astonishingly realized
after
the game began, had a user name of "killzjoo." Obviously, this is a not so
sneaky way of saying "Kill the Jew."


Or it could be Gary Killzjoo of the UK, an online gamer who has been
around for years.


Well, if that's so, then I truly have read everything.

Why don't you go out and find some *real* jew haters? Lord
knows that there are enough of those slimeballs around without
you having to manufacture new ones without evidence.


I would hardly characterize this as "without evidence." Certainly, some
doubt has been introduced, but that hardly turns the whole thing into
"without evidence"


 




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