help bot wrote:[i]

On Mar 23, 9:06 am, wrote:

You
wish to force that FICS user to pick another name because
you are offended over a very common gaming term that was
clearly used to mean " Kills you" (even you now admit
this, and have changed your complaint to "which easily
can be interpreted as" to reflect the obvious facts).

Someone is really "reaching" here.

First of all, the brackets to *insert* a missing
word from out of the blue. Note also the fact
that /even with the inserted word/, the sentence
is not even grammatically correct. It's pretty
sad when you give yourself free reign to play
around with the name, and *still* can't come
up with a decent English-language sentence,
so that the name seems to communicate
something sensibly.
[i]
I understand now that there are kiddies
who deliberately misspell wurds to try and
look kute, but even taking this into acct,
Mr. Silverman's interpretation is a
complete sentence, "kill zie Jew", while
the 1 by U guyz is missing a whole wurd,
, and has a plural [killz] where any fool
knowz there oughtta B a singular [kill].

U guyz need 2, like, get it together.

Refutation by multiple counterexample:

Eye killz joo wit mey sexyness!!!
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...65972311&sid=1

IF YOU FAVORITE THIS, I KILLZ JOO!!! I LUV JOO RYOUGA HIBIKI!
... I killz joo! (well, not literally) this is a horrible thinga
hibikiduskstar.deviantart.com/art/Scrap-Comic-75836105

In other words, "HURRY UP B4 I KILLZ JOO"
alpha-nuva.newgrounds.com/news/post/87748

Xanthe: I will killz joo! Me: ahahaa :-P
http://shadowequine.deviantart.com/a...z-Joo-74960172

STOP WRITING ABOUT THEM B4 I KILLZ JOO!
http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/35132/4287506/1/

omg teh wooter [water] killz joo! It's even in teh SH4MP00!
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/arch...p/t-48229.html

I M GOINGZ TO KILLZ JOO.
http://www.mathnews.uwaterloo.ca/Iss...roshcorner.php

nows yous bettrz lemme join yourz Gotei squad orz i killz joo wth th1s
kn1fe mmkay? =O
http://forums.quizilla.com/showthrea...26792&page=140

(joke, joke...... make with the haha now or I killz joo .)
http://www.tricksteronline.com/forum...howThread.aspx

imma gunna killz joo [graphic of Japanamation charater saying
"I Wanna Kill Joo"] aren't i cyute?
http://inari-kage.deviantart.com/art...z-joo-72407244

ares rogue I stealths and killz joo lolz
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/se...012140&s id=1

Yu-Gi-Oh GX. IF YOU STEAL THEM I WILL KILLZ JOO!
111mars111.wordpress.com/

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help bot wrote:[i]
On Mar 23, 9:06 am, wrote:
You wish to force that FICS user to pick another name because you
are offended over a very common gaming term that was clearly used
to mean " Kills you"

Someone is really "reaching" here.

First of all, the brackets to *insert* a missing word from out of
the blue. Note also the fact that /even with the inserted word/,
the sentence is not even grammatically correct.

You are obviously not familiar with, say `All your base are belong
to us' or lolcats (`I can haz cheezburger' etc.). Grammatical
English isn't even on the radar of these internet memes.


Dave.

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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ that's really hard to use!

On Mar 28, 9:58 pm, David Richerby
wrote:[i]
help bot wrote:
On Mar 23, 9:06 am, wrote:
You wish to force that FICS user to pick another name because you
are offended over a very common gaming term that was clearly used
to mean " Kills you"

Someone is really "reaching" here.

First of all, the brackets to *insert* a missing word from out of
the blue. Note also the fact that /even with the inserted word/,
the sentence is not even grammatically correct.

You are obviously not familiar with, say `All your base are belong
to us' or lolcats (`I can haz cheezburger' etc.). Grammatical
English isn't even on the radar of these internet memes.


The claim was that it **clearly** meant
"I kill you", which is ridiculous unless it is
both clear and obvious that this was the
intended meaning. It certainly is not clear
to me, and in fact, I was convinced at one
point that "kill zie Jew" (there are a LOT of
Hollywood movies which obsess over this
WWII stuff and which have Nazi's speaking
English, but with a strong German accent).

Now I see that there are kiddies who
deliberately muck up the English language
even more than it already is by nature, but
this is no more convincing than zie other
guess, since if you toss out grammar and
"making sense", it is possible to construct
an infinite number of monikers at random,
and then hypothesize that it means
something else.

This guy had to make several modifications
of the moniker in question just to compete:

1) he inserted a word (I) so the purported
sentence would have a "subject";

2) he allowed a plural where the singular
was obviously called for (kills);

3) and he also allowed a crazy spelling
of the word "you" so his theorized
sentence would make some kind of
sense.

I can certainly accept that this lunacy is
just as good a theory as "kill zie Jew", but
I seriously doubt it is "clear" unless and
until it is established that the person in
question is a die-hard gamer, not a neo-Nazi.
:D


-- help bot

help bot wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
You are obviously not familiar with, say `All your base are belong
to us' or lolcats (`I can haz cheezburger' etc.). Grammatical
English isn't even on the radar of these internet memes.

The claim was that it **clearly** meant "I kill you", which is
ridiculous unless it is both clear and obvious that this was the
intended meaning. It certainly is not clear to me, and in fact, I
was convinced at one point that "kill zie Jew"

Well it might not be clear *to you*. In the same way that the
sentence `Je suis Anglais' might not be clear *to you* if you don't
speak French. People have tried, at great length, to explain it to
you, citing numerous examples, but you refuse to listen.

You're sounding like somebody who is obstinately refusing to accept
that a heavier-than-air vehicle could possibly fly, even after being
taken to several airports.

This guy had to make several modifications of the moniker in
question just to compete:

1) he inserted a word (I) so the purported sentence would have a
"subject";

2) he allowed a plural where the singular was obviously called for
(kills);

Would it help if I pointed out that, in online gaming environments,
chat usually appears somewhat as in the script of a play:

Jack: hello
Jill: How are you?

Thus, if somebody were to write `killzjoo', it would appear on screen
as

Fred: killzjoo

which is quite close to `Fred kills you'. Further, there are often
commands to cause the colon to be omitted. On IRC, you can type `/me
does such-and-such', which will typically cause the line to be
rendered as

***Alice does such-and-such

rather than

Alice: does such-and-such

So, does `***Fred killzjoo' look close enough to `Fred kills you' that
you might actually accept that you are wrong and that the many
documented cases you've been shown are genuine?

3) and he also allowed a crazy spelling of the word "you" so his
theorized sentence would make some kind of sense.

Oh no! Crazy spellings! Nobody ever uses those! Nobody has ever
said `I can haz cheezburger' because it's both ungrammatical and
contains spelling mistakes! It can't possibly mean `I have a
cheeseburger'!


Dave.

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Help bot wrote:
[i]
David Richerby wrote:

help bot wrote:

wrote:

You wish to force that FICS user to pick another name because you
are offended over a very common gaming term that was clearly used
to mean " Kills you"

Someone is really "reaching" here.

First of all, the brackets to *insert* a missing word from out of
the blue. Note also the fact that /even with the inserted word/,
the sentence is not even grammatically correct.

You are obviously not familiar with, say `All your base are belong
to us' or lolcats (`I can haz cheezburger' etc.). Grammatical
English isn't even on the radar of these internet memes.

The claim was that it **clearly** meant
"I kill you", which is ridiculous unless it is
both clear and obvious that this was the
intended meaning. It certainly is not clear
to me,

"clearly" is correct. It means "matches all
available evidence."

"Obvious" is subjective.

Your attempt to redefine "cear" to mean
"clear and obvious" is invalid. They are
not the same thing.

and in fact, I was convinced at one
point that "kill zie Jew" (there are a LOT of
Hollywood movies which obsess over this
WWII stuff and which have Nazi's speaking
English, but with a strong German accent).

Now I see that there are kiddies who
deliberately muck up the English language
even more than it already is by nature, but
this is no more convincing than zie other
guess

You have seen multiple examples from gaming sites
(FICS is a gaming site) of "kilsz joo" meaning
"kill you." A challenge you to find a single
example of "kils z joo" being used to mean "kills
the jew." I won't even limit you to gaming sites.
Try to find it on a Nazi or KKK site. Try and find
any usage of "Kill zie Jew" while you are at it.

I detest racism as much as the next guy. That's
why I oppose painting gamers using gamer-speak in
the normal and accepted gamer-speak way on a gaming
site as racists, based on a theoretical usage that
even the neonazis don't actually use.