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From: Jessica Lauser
To: Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:53:29 -0700 Subject: A perfectly sound 'exchange' Dear Fred, I've recently heard an interesting version of a verbal exchange between Jerry and Susan Polgar, at last year's National Open, going around. As a rule, I generally stay out of chess politics because my own life is interesting enough without the added drama. In this case, however, I felt it best to set the record straight since I personally witnessed, first-hand, the conversation in question, and my experience, in no way, matches what is apparently being touted as fact. The 'incident' itself, lasted all of a couple minutes, and took place the night Jerry got into the Riviera, after I had gone with a member of the staff, if you recall, to pick him up at the airport. We had arrived a few minutes earlier, had gotten checked in, and were waiting at the bell desk for assistance with Jerry's luggage, when he noticed Susan Polgar waiting at the front desk, nearby. When he recognized her standing there, he said to me, in a pleasant tone, "Oh, there's Susan Polgar, I think I'll go and say hello." He then nudged his cart the 5 or 6 feet over to her, and I listened to them talk quietly, the entire time. Upon exchanging hellos, Jerry told Susan not to worry - that he wasn't going to get into any political debates with her during this trip, but that he hoped things could be civil between them. Susan seemed a little hesitant, responding without saying much. Pretty soon, they ended on reasonable terms after Jerry said, again pleasantly, "Oh, and congratulations on your marriage." to which Susan replied with a simple, albeit flat, "Thank you." before Jerry rode away. From what I could tell, there was no unpleasantness, nor any indication that Jerry could have offended Susan, so it's rather confusing to hear of another rendition of what happened, especially one so fundamentally different. Simply put, there was no shouting, raised voices, or any "abuse" whatsoever. In fact, I may be visually impaired, but my limitation in this way, has left me with excellent hearing. I sometimes regret this ability when I encounter certain kinds of metal detectors, as I can hear the high-pitched tones they emit, to which fully-sighted folks seem luckily oblivious. At any rate, the atmosphere of the exchange was very calm, and quiet, and, besides myself, there were even 2-3 people in line, behind Susan, who were standing there, yawning tiredly, likely after a long trip. I highly doubt their quiet reverie would have been possible in the face of a horrendous shouting- or cursing-match. In addition to the other guests, there were also a number of hotel employees present, from the receptionists behind the desk, to those running the snack kiosk opposite where Jerry and I were standing. All in all, the reports of what took place are blatantly false. I'm sure that had there been the kind of exchange that is being cited as fact by the proponents of the Polgar camp, it would have been the talk of the tournament, immediately, before the first round had even begun, long before now, rather than merely 'surfacing' nearly a year after the conversation in question initially took place. I hope this helps clear up any further confusion about this particular incident. As a chessplayer, I can honestly say, that the 'exchange' here was 'perfectly sound'. Best regards, -Jessica Lauser |
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What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto |
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EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. |
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:46:43 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote: EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. And lets say the courts decide. What makes you think with the behavoir shown here from you clowns would anyone want you guys in office. If the courts decide then so be it. But there is no way anyone would want you clowns either. Your behavoir as former elected officials is reprehensible. EZoto |
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On Apr 12, 6:46*pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. *Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. *Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. *Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. *But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. *The election was not fair given the FSS posts. *We'll see what the courts eventually decide. Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members of Congress seated. Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often. Randy Bauer |
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On Apr 12, 9:38 pm, Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members of Congress seated. Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often. Randy Bauer Have you considered challenging Kirsan, Randy? http://www.fide.com/component/conten...27-fide-videos |
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Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members of Congress seated. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often. Not Sloan. But it may have kept Jones off the board. Randy Bauer |
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On Apr 12, 10:38 pm, Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members of Congress seated. Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often. Randy Bauer Try another question. Do you think that you, Randy Bauer, would have been elected had you not been on the Polgar Ticket? Remember that when you last ran in 2005 you lost badly. Thus, it seems likely that it was support from Polgar that put you over the top. Try another question: Do you think that if the election were held today, with Polgar no longer supporting you, you would still be elected? Sam Sloan |
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:46:43 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote: EZoto wrote: What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States. What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next election and then you and the people can vote him out of office. Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit. EZoto Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what the courts eventually decide. Do you really think that the FSS post changed the results???? Sloan is a twit and it certainly showed by his idiotic actions. Just take one look at his disturbing web page... that probably had far more of an impact on the election than obvious fake posts. |
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Wrong. *The election was not fair given the FSS posts. * This contention is devoid of rationality, as has been explained before. Sheesh. And you were a judge? Scorn, and slight regard, zdrakec |
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