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Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired



 
 
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  #11  
Old April 11th 08, 08:21 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
samsloan
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

From: Jessica Lauser
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:53:29 -0700
Subject: A perfectly sound 'exchange'
Dear Fred,

I've recently heard an interesting version of a verbal exchange
between Jerry and Susan Polgar, at last year's National Open, going
around. As a rule, I generally stay out of chess politics because my
own life is interesting enough without the added drama. In this case,
however, I felt it best to set the record straight since I personally
witnessed, first-hand, the conversation in question, and my
experience, in no way, matches what is apparently being touted as
fact.

The 'incident' itself, lasted all of a couple minutes, and took place
the night Jerry got into the Riviera, after I had gone with a member
of the staff, if you recall, to pick him up at the airport. We had
arrived a few minutes earlier, had gotten checked in, and were waiting
at the bell desk for assistance with Jerry's luggage, when he noticed
Susan Polgar waiting at the front desk, nearby.

When he recognized her standing there, he said to me, in a pleasant
tone, "Oh, there's Susan Polgar, I think I'll go and say hello." He
then nudged his cart the 5 or 6 feet over to her, and I listened to
them talk quietly, the entire time.

Upon exchanging hellos, Jerry told Susan not to worry - that he wasn't
going to get into any political debates with her during this trip, but
that he hoped things could be civil between them. Susan seemed a
little hesitant, responding without saying much. Pretty soon, they
ended on reasonable terms after Jerry said, again pleasantly, "Oh, and
congratulations on your marriage." to which Susan replied with a
simple, albeit flat, "Thank you." before Jerry rode away. From what I
could tell, there was no unpleasantness, nor any indication that Jerry
could have offended Susan, so it's rather confusing to hear of another
rendition of what happened, especially one so fundamentally different.

Simply put, there was no shouting, raised voices, or any "abuse"
whatsoever. In fact, I may be visually impaired, but my limitation in
this way, has left me with excellent hearing. I sometimes regret this
ability when I encounter certain kinds of metal detectors, as I can
hear the high-pitched tones they emit, to which fully-sighted folks
seem luckily oblivious.

At any rate, the atmosphere of the exchange was very calm, and quiet,
and, besides myself, there were even 2-3 people in line, behind Susan,
who were standing there, yawning tiredly, likely after a long trip. I
highly doubt their quiet reverie would have been possible in the face
of a horrendous shouting- or cursing-match. In addition to the other
guests, there were also a number of hotel employees present, from the
receptionists behind the desk, to those running the snack kiosk
opposite where Jerry and I were standing.

All in all, the reports of what took place are blatantly false. I'm
sure that had there been the kind of exchange that is being cited as
fact by the proponents of the Polgar camp, it would have been the talk
of the tournament, immediately, before the first round had even begun,
long before now, rather than merely 'surfacing' nearly a year after
the conversation in question initially took place.

I hope this helps clear up any further confusion about this particular
incident. As a chessplayer, I can honestly say, that the 'exchange'
here was 'perfectly sound'.

Best regards,


-Jessica Lauser
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  #12  
Old April 13th 08, 12:31 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired


What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.

EZoto
  #13  
Old April 13th 08, 01:46 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
Brian Lafferty
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.

EZoto

Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.
  #14  
Old April 13th 08, 04:26 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
EZoto
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:46:43 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:

EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.

EZoto

Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


And lets say the courts decide. What makes you think with the
behavoir shown here from you clowns would anyone want you guys in
office. If the courts decide then so be it. But there is no way
anyone would want you clowns either. Your behavoir as former elected
officials is reprehensible.

EZoto
  #15  
Old April 13th 08, 04:38 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
Randy Bauer
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

On Apr 12, 6:46*pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. *Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. *Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. *Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. *But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.


EZoto


Wrong. *The election was not fair given the FSS posts. *We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is
based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on
the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members
of Congress seated.

Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last
place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too
absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often.

Randy Bauer
  #16  
Old April 13th 08, 05:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
billbrock1958@gmail.com
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

On Apr 12, 9:38 pm, Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:



EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.


EZoto


Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is
based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on
the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members
of Congress seated.

Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last
place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too
absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often.

Randy Bauer


Have you considered challenging Kirsan, Randy?

http://www.fide.com/component/conten...27-fide-videos
  #17  
Old April 13th 08, 01:38 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
Brian Lafferty
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Default Susan Polgar wants Jerry Hanken Fired

Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.
What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.
EZoto

Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is
based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on
the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members
of Congress seated.


We'll just have to agree to disagree.


Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last
place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too
absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often.


Not Sloan. But it may have kept Jones off the board.

Randy Bauer

  #18  
Old April 13th 08, 06:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
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On Apr 12, 10:38 pm, Randy Bauer wrote:
On Apr 12, 6:46 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:



EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.


EZoto


Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


Oh, please - that is absolute baloney. Fairness in an election is
based on the ability of the voters to participate. If it was based on
the possibility that untruths were spoken, there would be few members
of Congress seated.

Besides, are you suggesting that Sam Sloan, who barely escaped last
place, would have won a seat if not for the FSS posts? That is too
absurd for words - Brian, you need to get out more often.

Randy Bauer


Try another question.

Do you think that you, Randy Bauer, would have been elected had you
not been on the Polgar Ticket?

Remember that when you last ran in 2005 you lost badly.

Thus, it seems likely that it was support from Polgar that put you
over the top.

Try another question: Do you think that if the election were held
today, with Polgar no longer supporting you, you would still be
elected?

Sam Sloan
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Old April 13th 08, 10:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:46:43 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:

EZoto wrote:
What is becoming increasingly clear over time is that Ms. Polgar
apparently has no idea of how the democratic political process works and
the fact that we have freedom of speech in the United States.


What do you know of it. Paul and Susan won the election fair and
square and all you losers are upset over it. Now your trying to take
him out of office because your not the bosses anymore. Wait till next
election and then you and the people can vote him out of office.
Something Sam sloan doesn't understand. But then in this country you
have a right to sue to I suppose no matter how frivolous the lawsuit.

EZoto

Wrong. The election was not fair given the FSS posts. We'll see what
the courts eventually decide.


Do you really think that the FSS post changed the results???? Sloan is
a twit and it certainly showed by his idiotic actions. Just take one
look at his disturbing web page... that probably had far more of an
impact on the election than obvious fake posts.
  #20  
Old April 14th 08, 03:40 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal,rec.games.chess.computer
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Wrong. *The election was not fair given the FSS posts. *


This contention is devoid of rationality, as has been explained
before. Sheesh. And you were a judge?

Scorn, and slight regard,
zdrakec
 




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