Sanny skrev:
I found 5 Million Copies of Chess Master has been Sold and it Costs
$19.95.

So ChessMaster Creator has earned $100 Million Dollars.

Look he http://www.game-remakes.com/game.php?id=126

Chess Master Sold 5 Million Copies for $19.95 each !!!

How much good is ChessMaster to GetClub?

Can GetClub Chess sell 5 Million Copies????

Please Help If I earn $100 Million Dollars, I will shell out a lot of
money to those who help me.

When you play ChessMaster and GetClub whats the Difference?

If Chess Master Thinks for 10 sec/ move will it be able to beat the
GetClubs Normal Level?.

$100 Million Dollar is a lot of money hey tell my How to sell 5
Million Copies of GetClub Chess.

Please Suggest me, may be I give all the money you can dream of. Just
tell me how to sell 5 Million copies of GetClub Chess. Thats a great
Business !!!

Is there good Market for GetClub Chess???? Why Can't GetClub do what
ChessMaster did thats a 100 Million Dollar Question....

I don't think you're getting the point about CM, or any other commercial
chess product for that matter. First, CM is not made by one "creator",
but by a team of multiple programmers, where one is dedicated to the
engine alone, various designers, testers, not to mention no less than
five GMs giving tutorials and advice.

And even if I could sell the work of one man for five million dollars I
would be off and do it myself, not tell you how to do it

On May 7, 11:46 am, Sanny wrote:
Sanny, your addiction to hallucinogenic drugs is becoming more and
mre severe. Please seek rehabilitation.- Hide quoted text -

Yes I understand a lot of things are needed to sell large number of
Copies. And there is a lot of Competition in this Market.

If I only think about Playing Strength How good is ChessMaster to
GetClub?

GetClub is much improved now, Is ChessMaster still stronger than
GetClub Chess?

Does anyone has ChessMaster What are the things that GetClub is
missing other than play Strength?

Several things:
1. Study Marketing 101.
2. Don't post on chess newsgroups asking people for advice how to sell
your chess game.

Want to know what the issue is with a chess game? How about strength
of play kept getting pushed OVER AND OVER, when it keeps beating 90%
of the chess players in the world, so there are diminishing returns.

I will give you a free tip he Think how you can produce a chess
program people feel the need to buy every year. In other words, what
Chessmaster used to be.

Second tip: Can you provide a program that is documented to, in a fun
way, improve the chess of people play? If so, you may be on to
something.

There, that is all the freebies you will get from me. Now stop asking
people here how they can help sell your program. If you want me to
tell you more, I am going to have to bill you. Shorthand, you need to
make it worth my while.

- Rich

On May 8, 12:44 am, Sanny wrote:
One thing I found was that GetClub was very costly compared to
ChessMaster. So I have reduced the Price of Subscription at GetClub by
half.

Now, I feel I will get a lot of Customers.

Here is the new Current Rate of Subscription.

http://www.getclub.com/PurchaseGames.html

Did you sign an agreement with Bugs Bunny to endorse your game? If
so, isn't Warner Bros. going to be upset at Bugs moonlighting on your
website?

Free tip number 3: You need to SERIOUSLY get far more professional in
how you act on here, and with your website, before anyone happens to
want to pay you money for anything. This includes the killing of the
flying chess pieces that make me think I am doing chess skeet shooting
on your website. This professionalism goes down to learning there is
a chess game out there, with some notability and following that had
the same name as a chess variant you proposed.

If I am keep giving you input like this, you are going to get a bill
from me.

- Rich

On May 7, 5:23 pm, Frisco Del Rosario wrote:
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Sanny wrote:
What are the things that GetClub is missing other than play Strength?

I went to getclub.com once.

The user interface is ugly, made of dozens of colors and hundreds of
text fields. The text that clutters your UI reads like your newsgroup
posts. You -- or someone who'll redo your UI for you -- must understand
how to write in English, and that in UI design 'less is more'.

The chessboard didn't fully render. No one will return to your chess
application if they can't see the chessboard the first time. When I
clicked on a piece, the UI made a sound like an aircraft, which I could
not determine how to turn off.

The buttons in the chessboard field flicker. So the design of your app
is weak on the front end *and* on the back.

Do you count the flying chess pieces on the website in all this?
Wait, maybe the flying chess pieces have little tiny jet engines,
which explains why they fly around and the aircraft noise.

- Rich

On May 10, 5:16*pm, Morten Skarstad `whoami`@localhost wrote:

I don't think you're getting the point about CM, or any other commercial
chess product for that matter. First, CM is not made by one "creator",
but by a team of multiple programmers, where one is dedicated to the
engine alone, various designers, testers, not to mention no less than
five GMs giving tutorials and advice.

And even if I could sell the work of one man for five million dollars I
would be off and do it myself, not tell you how to do it - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Indeed. It takes money to make money.

If I remember correctly, the typical cost of the development and
marketing of one version of Chessmaster was around $750,000. That was
for CM8 and CM9, so the numbers might be bigger (or smaller) now --
but not by much.

jm

On May 15, 12:33*am, wrote:
On May 10, 5:16*pm, Morten Skarstad `whoami`@localhost wrote:



I don't think you're getting the point about CM, or any other commercial
chessproduct for that matter. First, CM is not made by one "creator",
but by a team of multiple programmers, where one is dedicated to the
engine alone, various designers, testers, not to mention no less than
five GMs giving tutorials and advice.

And even if I could sell the work of one man for five million dollars I
would be off and do it myself, not tell you how to do it - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Indeed. It takes money to make money.

If I remember correctly, the typical cost of the development and
marketing of one version of Chessmaster was around $750,000. That was
for CM8 and CM9, so the numbers might be bigger (or smaller) now --
but not by much.

jm

So Cost of designing GetClub Chess is also arround $750,000. How earn
the money I have spent in designing it is a big question.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

So Cost of designing GetClub Chess is also arround $750,000.
How earn the money I have spent in designing it is a big question.

If you wanted to earn that money back, you should have answered that
question *before* you spent the money, imho.

From what I can tell, your first step in earning money back, at this point,
is to hire a *professional* webdesigner to give the GetClub website and
complete and utter overhaul. No way will you pass off as a professional
chess program with the current webdesign.

That's just a first step, I could recommend more. But without that step it's
all fairly pointless imho.

ave

Sanny wrote:
On May 15, 12:33 am, wrote:
On May 10, 5:16 pm, Morten Skarstad `whoami`@localhost wrote:

I don't think you're getting the point about CM, or any other commercial
chessproduct for that matter. First, CM is not made by one "creator",
but by a team of multiple programmers, where one is dedicated to the
engine alone, various designers, testers, not to mention no less than
five GMs giving tutorials and advice.

The early versions were the work of a relatively small team in the 80's.
I still have a copy of Franz Morsch's Fritz I from that era too.

And even if I could sell the work of one man for five million dollars I
would be off and do it myself, not tell you how to do it

Although I reckon there is a real gap in the market for a program for
the CB interface that plays human like chess at levels broadly
comparable with the average to advanced club player.

Not 10 GM level moves followed by 1 patzer level move to get the
win/lose/draw stats right, but something that is just subtly off the
right theme with the odd minor blunder. Shredder seems the closest to my
ideal, but even there I notice that at nominal 2200 ELO it still makes
obvious mistakes and at 2350 it becomes almost unbeatable (for me). The
transition from one to the other is very abrupt not like with humans.

Indeed. It takes money to make money.

If I remember correctly, the typical cost of the development and
marketing of one version of Chessmaster was around $750,000. That was
for CM8 and CM9, so the numbers might be bigger (or smaller) now --
but not by much.

So Cost of designing GetClub Chess is also arround $750,000. How earn
the money I have spent in designing it is a big question.

You are pulling our collective leg Sanny.
If it cost more than $7,500 to develop then you were overcharged.

You could sell your engine from your website if it was rebuilt in a form
where it looked like a generic UCI engine to ChessBase. It would also
make testing its notional ELO rating much much easier.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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On May 19, 5:51*pm, "ave" wrote:
So Cost of designing GetClub Chess is also arround $750,000.
How earn the money I have spent in designing it is a big question.

If you wanted to earn that money back, you should have answered that
question *before* you spent the money, imho.

From what I can tell, your first step in earning money back, at this point,
is to hire a *professional* webdesigner to give the GetClub website and
complete and utter overhaul. No way will you pass off as a professional
chess program with the current webdesign.

That's just a first step, I could recommend more. But without that step it's
all fairly pointless imho.

ave

What modifications are you looking for?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

In article , ave wrote:
So Cost of designing GetClub Chess is also arround $750,000.
How earn the money I have spent in designing it is a big question.

If you wanted to earn that money back, you should have answered that
question *before* you spent the money, imho.

You don't really believe that Sanny spent three quarters of a million
bucks on his program, do you?


Dave.



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