Bush strikes again:

http://www.dmv.demon.nl/

Poor Bobby.

Peter van der Hoog

The photo is authentic. It was taken last week by a Japanese news service.
As you can see, it fits perfectly the clothing description reported in
articles documenting Fischer's arrest.

When that photo was first posted on a Japanese news site it was
accompanied by text saying it was of Fischer being transferred to
another facility. Since it was first posted the day he was
transferred, this seems likely.

Saludos, Mig
http://www.chessninja.com



On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:18:50 +0200, "Peter van der Hoog"
wrote:

The photo is authentic. It was taken last week by a Japanese news service.
As you can see, it fits perfectly the clothing description reported in
articles documenting Fischer's arrest.


Mig Greengard
http://www.chessninja.com
Because Losing Sucks

"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...
Bush strikes again:

http://www.dmv.demon.nl/

Poor Bobby.

The videos available on this site are absolutely fantastic and I urge every
chess fan to have a look.
That Dutch documentary must have been brilliant.
All the Russian masters speak such good English!
Yasser is such a nice guy! It must have been hard for him to argue with
Fischer about anti-semitism.

Hi there Mig,

If that is right, do you think he is deliberately opening his mouth to show
the world what happened to his teeth when he was arrested?

All the best,

Jonathan

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"Mig" wrote in message
news
When that photo was first posted on a Japanese news site it was
accompanied by text saying it was of Fischer being transferred to
another facility. Since it was first posted the day he was
transferred, this seems likely.

Saludos, Mig
http://www.chessninja.com



On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:18:50 +0200, "Peter van der Hoog"
wrote:

The photo is authentic. It was taken last week by a Japanese news
service.
As you can see, it fits perfectly the clothing description reported in
articles documenting Fischer's arrest.


Mig Greengard
http://www.chessninja.com
Because Losing Sucks

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:00:23 +0000 (UTC), "Jon Levitt"
wrote:

Hi there Mig,

If that is right, do you think he is deliberately opening his mouth to show
the world what happened to his teeth when he was arrested?

Reportedly, he had his fillings removed years ago, believing the
commies could direct rays at the metal. When told he would lose his
teeth if he did that, he was said to have replied that he'd just have
to "gum it".

I would guess this might better account for his poor dentition than
police brutality.

All the best,

Jonathan

In article , Mike Murray
writes

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:00:23 +0000 (UTC), "Jon Levitt"
wrote:

Hi there Mig,

If that is right, do you think he is deliberately opening his mouth to show
the world what happened to his teeth when he was arrested?

Reportedly, he had his fillings removed years ago, believing the
commies could direct rays at the metal. When told he would lose his
teeth if he did that, he was said to have replied that he'd just have
to "gum it".

I would guess this might better account for his poor dentition than
police brutality.

You guess wrong. Whatever Fred Waitzkin says in his book, this should
not deter from the fact that the goons at the airport chipped a number
of his teeth. Some readers may recall that the police story regarding
Blair Peach in the UK was that he had an unusually thin skull. (The
police had beaten him to death on a demonstration, with truncheon blows
to the head). When the photo was taken, maybe the reason Fischer was
opening his mouth is because he was saying something. But it may well be
that Jon's speculation is bang on the button.

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 01:29:10 +0100, banana
wrote:

If that is right, do you think he is deliberately opening his mouth to show
the world what happened to his teeth when he was arrested?

Reportedly, he had his fillings removed years ago, believing the
commies could direct rays at the metal. When told he would lose his
teeth if he did that, he was said to have replied that he'd just have
to "gum it".

I would guess this might better account for his poor dentition than
police brutality.

You guess wrong. Whatever Fred Waitzkin says in his book, this should
not deter from the fact that the goons at the airport chipped a number
of his teeth.

From the picture, it looks like teeth are *missing*, not just chipped.
And the shorter teeth could be rotted stumps rather than all broken
off. The redness around his mouth? A cut lip (there was quite a
fracas, after all) or a cough drop. We're still guessing, aren't we?

Some readers may recall that the police story regarding
Blair Peach in the UK was that he had an unusually thin skull. (The
police had beaten him to death on a demonstration, with truncheon blows
to the head).

This, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with Fischer.

I mean, UK versus Japanese cops, different victim (or perp, as the
case may be), took place in a demonstration rather than an individual
arrest, etc. But, if you think it's evidence, well, put it out
there. Maybe Nick will add some quotes from the Guardian about Blair
Peach.

When the photo was taken, maybe the reason Fischer was
opening his mouth is because he was saying something. But it may well be
that Jon's speculation is bang on the button.

Maybe. It's a reasonable guess. If you two are correct, Fischer's
attorney will no doubt make it an issue.

How can Fischer, with such bad teeth, kiss his bride?
Indeed, poor Bobby.


"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...
Bush strikes again:

http://www.dmv.demon.nl/

Poor Bobby.

Peter van der Hoog

In article , Mike Murray
writes

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 01:29:10 +0100, banana
wrote:

If that is right, do you think he is deliberately opening his mouth to show
the world what happened to his teeth when he was arrested?

Reportedly, he had his fillings removed years ago, believing the
commies could direct rays at the metal. When told he would lose his
teeth if he did that, he was said to have replied that he'd just have
to "gum it".

I would guess this might better account for his poor dentition than
police brutality.

You guess wrong. Whatever Fred Waitzkin says in his book, this should
not deter from the fact that the goons at the airport chipped a number
of his teeth.

From the picture, it looks like teeth are *missing*, not just chipped.
And the shorter teeth could be rotted stumps rather than all broken
off. The redness around his mouth? A cut lip (there was quite a
fracas, after all) or a cough drop. We're still guessing, aren't we?

Yes.

Some readers may recall that the police story regarding
Blair Peach in the UK was that he had an unusually thin skull. (The
police had beaten him to death on a demonstration, with truncheon blows
to the head).

This, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with Fischer.

It was meant as 'retaliation' (pre-emptive, but what's wrong with that?
:-)) to the idea that since Fischer may have had bad teeth prior to
getting beaten up, his teeth may have chipped unusually easily,
therefore no blame should be attributed to his grabbers. This is opposed
to the idea that if someone has bad teeth and they get chipped by their
attackers, this abhorrent and humiliating turn of events at least has a
'silver lining' in so far as it provides evidence of what the
perpetrators have done.

IMO anyone who has thought properly about Fischer and what kind of
person he is, regardless of what they think about his opinions about
this, that, or the other, realises that he is an absolutist where
honesty is concerned. If he says the goons chipped his teeth, then I
believe him.

I mean, UK versus Japanese cops, different victim (or perp, as the
case may be), took place in a demonstration rather than an individual
arrest, etc. But, if you think it's evidence, well, put it out
there. Maybe Nick will add some quotes from the Guardian about Blair
Peach.

When the photo was taken, maybe the reason Fischer was
opening his mouth is because he was saying something. But it may well be
that Jon's speculation is bang on the button.

Maybe. It's a reasonable guess. If you two are correct, Fischer's
attorney will no doubt make it an issue.

I ask myself what I would do if I'd had my teeth chipped by State goons,
was still in custody, and saw a film crew. I'd open my mouth and say
this is what they did to me, get a bloody good picture of it.

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)