deep blue kicked human ass in chess.

can a computer be programmed to produce music more perfectly than any
human?

i guess it can electronically.

but how about physically? can a computerized robot play as perfectly
or better than a human?

i'll bet robot conducting would be easier than robot playing.

my pet goat wrote:

but how about physically? can a computerized robot play as perfectly
or better than a human?

You don't even need a computer. Machines have been excellent musicians
even before the invention of the pianola.

i'll bet robot conducting would be easier than robot playing.

I think a robot conductor is going to have a big problem keeping the
orchestra under control.

--
samuel
concerten.free.fr
http://composers21.com/compdocs/vriezens.htm

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Samuel Vriezen sqv.do.not.spam@xs4all wrote:
my pet goat wrote:

but how about physically? can a computerized robot play as perfectly
or better than a human?

You don't even need a computer. Machines have been excellent musicians
even before the invention of the pianola.

i'll bet robot conducting would be easier than robot playing.

I think a robot conductor is going to have a big problem keeping the
orchestra under control.


Depends on the orchestra. We do coordinated locks on databases all
the time, so having a central timeserver issuing timecodes to multiple
devices while operating an output-mixer is straightforward.

--
Matthew H. Fields http://personal.www.umich.edu/~fields
Music: Splendor in Sound
A genuine countertenor voice silences all arguments. --Salman Rushdie
Brights have a naturalistic world-view. http://www.the-brights.net/

"my pet goat" wrote in message
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deep blue kicked human ass in chess.

can a computer be programmed to produce music more perfectly than any
human?

i guess it can electronically.

but how about physically? can a computerized robot play as perfectly
or better than a human?

i'll bet robot conducting would be easier than robot playing.

In certain things, yes. For example, a computer/robot could play complex
scales faster and more accurately than any human ever could. But music is
generally not considered a competition, so I would not say the computer
would "kick human ass." Besides, the small rhythmic, volume, and pitch
"flaws" in the performance is how the human performer communicates emotion.

All forms of computer programs operate under finite algorhythms which
are only useful for games like chess that have limited outcomes and
possible moves.

Ryan

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"Ryan Tanaka" wrote in message
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All forms of computer programs operate under
finite algorhythms which are only useful for games
like chess that have limited outcomes and
possible moves.

But our brains are computers...

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:46:25 +0100, John Rowland wrote:

"Ryan Tanaka" wrote in message
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All forms of computer programs operate under finite algorhythms which
are only useful for games like chess that have limited outcomes and
possible moves.

But our brains are computers...

Arguably, but if they are, they're far more adaptable than "robotic"
computers. They are also self-learning across at least five senses - six
if you include introspection or self-awareness.

The human brain can handle far more bits of information simultaneously
than even the largest supercomputers. The theoretical processing power of
a single human brain is around 100 trillion floating point operations per
second (100 Teraflops). The fastest computer in the world can only manage
a theoretical maximum of around 35 Teraflops.

Even assuming that one could develop a computer with the intuition,
imagination and "free will" sufficient to compose and perform idiomatic
music of any quality, the costs would be huge. Without a supercomputer to
hand you could concoct an array of standard Pentiums, but you'd fill a
large concert hall with the tens of thousands of PCs required, the power
bills would be astronomic and the only fans you'd find in the audience
would be of the cooling variety.

--

Regards, Gareth Williams

fs wrote:
In certain things, yes. For example, a computer/robot could play complex
scales faster and more accurately than any human ever could. But music is

There's a built-in limit to speed because pitch becomes indefinite as the
note becomes shorter.

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

fs wrote:
"my pet goat" wrote in message
om...

deep blue kicked human ass in chess.

can a computer be programmed to produce music more perfectly than any
human?

i guess it can electronically.

but how about physically? can a computerized robot play as perfectly
or better than a human?

i'll bet robot conducting would be easier than robot playing.


In certain things, yes. For example, a computer/robot could play complex
scales faster and more accurately than any human ever could. But music is
generally not considered a competition,

Except bravoura virtuoso competitions. One may of course question what
those have to do with music.

so I would not say the computer
would "kick human ass." Besides, the small rhythmic, volume, and pitch
"flaws" in the performance is how the human performer communicates emotion.

What makes you think a robot could not be programmed to have 'flaws'
like those?

--
samuel
concerten.free.fr
http://composers21.com/compdocs/vriezens.htm

John Rowland wrote:

"Ryan Tanaka" wrote in message
om...

All forms of computer programs operate under
finite algorhythms which are only useful for games
like chess that have limited outcomes and
possible moves.


But our brains are computers...


In fact, the entire universe is a computer. Atoms are data, the laws of
physics are the program manipulating it. And God was an expert
programmer. Therefore, probably the manna from heaven was rich in grease
and caffeine.

--
samuel
concerten.free.fr
http://composers21.com/compdocs/vriezens.htm