http://www.fide.com/news/download/Address.jpg

"PeteCasso" wrote in message
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http://www.fide.com/news/download/Address.jpg

Again, wrong address. Ilyumzhinov should have addressed his letter to
Japanese authorities. Instead of real action, probably he wants to have more
publicity and self advertisement.

Regards,

Jerzy

I'm not sure whether it is indeed the wrong address, since the instigator is
the US which the FIDE is addressing. The Japanese government seems to be
following the US, but fortunately, the Japanese court system takes a more
neutral stance.


"Jerzy" wrote in message
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"PeteCasso" wrote in message
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http://www.fide.com/news/download/Address.jpg

Again, wrong address. Ilyumzhinov should have addressed his letter to
Japanese authorities. Instead of real action, probably he wants to have
more
publicity and self advertisement.

Regards,

Jerzy

"PeteCasso" wrote in message
.. .
I'm not sure whether it is indeed the wrong address, since the instigator
is
the US which the FIDE is addressing. The Japanese government seems to be
following the US, but fortunately, the Japanese court system takes a more
neutral stance.

Fischer was detained because of his invalid passport by Japanese not
Americans. What`s more he spits on his USA citizenship. So the address is,
for sure, wrong.
Thus both Spassky and Ilyumzhinov make more publicity for themselves but it
doesn`t solve the case. IMHO Fischer should be left for himself with his
paranoia. If he wanted to live in Japan or somewhere else then I would let
him to do so but I guess he wants to be a big trouble in every country he
shows himself.

Regards,

Jerzy

Fischer was detained because of his invalid passport by Japanese not
Americans.

The US cancelled his passport, the Japanese followed up, so the source of
the current issue is the US, not Japan. If the US did not cancel the
passport, Japan has no basis whatsoever to follow up. The address to the US
as the source of the current issue is therefore correct.

What`s more he spits on his USA citizenship. So the address is,
for sure, wrong.

This is again an indication to address the US, not Japan, to overlook
Fischer's sick behaviour toward the US.

Thus both Spassky and Ilyumzhinov make more publicity for themselves but
it
doesn`t solve the case.

There is no basis for making that 'publicity' statement. There are many more
individuals and groups than just the two who address the US on this issue,
look at the 'Free Bobby Fischer', 'chessgate' and many other web sites that
has been tossed up in the newsgroup and elsewhere.

IMHO Fischer should be left for himself with his
paranoia. If he wanted to live in Japan or somewhere else then I would let
him to do so but I guess he wants to be a big trouble in every country he
shows himself.

Fischer is his own worst enemy, because he is a sicko. All of us, including
the US, should leave this sicko alone. But because the US does not leave him
alone, there are these many others trying to persuade the US to leave him
alone.

"PeteCasso" wrote in message
.. .
Fischer was detained because of his invalid passport by Japanese not
Americans.

The US cancelled his passport, the Japanese followed up, so the source of
the current issue is the US, not Japan. If the US did not cancel the
passport, Japan has no basis whatsoever to follow up. The address to the
US
as the source of the current issue is therefore correct.

Do you believe that it was an action directed solely towards Fischer ? IMHO
US government is simply changing passports for some USA citizens because of
security reasons and that`s all. If Fischer doesn`t want to be a USA citizen
then US government can`t help him.


There is no basis for making that 'publicity' statement. There are many
more
individuals and groups than just the two who address the US on this issue,
look at the 'Free Bobby Fischer', 'chessgate' and many other web sites
that
has been tossed up in the newsgroup and elsewhere.

OK the fact is that Fischer was detained by Japanese not by Americans. How
can Americans free Bobby ? Should they give a command to Japan (that is an
independent country) to free Bobby ? And maybe they should say to him : come
to US embassy we will give you a new pass if you want (that`s what they did
in fact).

IMHO Fischer should be left for himself with his
paranoia. If he wanted to live in Japan or somewhere else then I would
let
him to do so but I guess he wants to be a big trouble in every country
he
shows himself.

Fischer is his own worst enemy, because he is a sicko. All of us,
including
the US, should leave this sicko alone. But because the US does not leave
him
alone, there are these many others trying to persuade the US to leave him
alone.

Ok, it`s convenient for them now to show their "sympathy" for Fischer and on
the other hand to place him in a conflict with the USA. Where were they when
he needed more help from them e.g. to obtain a new passport ?

Regards,

Jerzy

"Jerzy" wrote in message
...
"PeteCasso" wrote in message
.. .
Fischer was detained because of his invalid passport by Japanese not
Americans.

The US cancelled his passport, the Japanese followed up, so the source
of
the current issue is the US, not Japan. If the US did not cancel the
passport, Japan has no basis whatsoever to follow up. The address to the
US
as the source of the current issue is therefore correct.

Do you believe that it was an action directed solely towards Fischer ?
IMHO
US government is simply changing passports for some USA citizens because
of
security reasons and that`s all. If Fischer doesn`t want to be a USA
citizen
then US government can`t help him.

You changed the subject, I responded to your erroneous statement that the
address of Spassky's and FIDE's open letters was wrong. The source of the
issue has to be addressed, which in this case is the US, so the address is
correct.

On the completely different subjects (plural!), for one thing, the issue as
it stands now is not the US government can't help him (sic!), but on the
contrary, the US government does not want to accept Fischer's renunciation
of citizenship.

There is no basis for making that 'publicity' statement. There are many
more
individuals and groups than just the two who address the US on this
issue,
look at the 'Free Bobby Fischer', 'chessgate' and many other web sites
that
has been tossed up in the newsgroup and elsewhere.

OK the fact is that Fischer was detained by Japanese not by Americans. How
can Americans free Bobby ? Should they give a command to Japan (that is an
independent country) to free Bobby ? And maybe they should say to him :
come
to US embassy we will give you a new pass if you want (that`s what they
did
in fact).

You keep changing the subject, I responded to your baseless statement that
Spassky's and Kirsan's open letters was for their own publicity. (You
snipped away your own quote, but it was there in your previous posting.) You
did not provide a basis for that statement in your second posting either.

On the completely different subjects (plural again!), for one thing, Japan
follows up on an act of the US. If there had been no act of the US, Japan
had no basis for any detention at all. Even now, all the US has to do to
free Fischer, is to leave him alone, as the US did for the past 12 years. No
commandeering of Japan by the US whatsoever is required, just leave Fischer
alone, very simple.

IMHO Fischer should be left for himself with his
paranoia. If he wanted to live in Japan or somewhere else then I would
let
him to do so but I guess he wants to be a big trouble in every country
he
shows himself.

Fischer is his own worst enemy, because he is a sicko. All of us,
including
the US, should leave this sicko alone. But because the US does not leave
him
alone, there are these many others trying to persuade the US to leave
him
alone.

Ok, it`s convenient for them now to show their "sympathy" for Fischer and
on
the other hand to place him in a conflict with the USA. Where were they
when
he needed more help from them e.g. to obtain a new passport ?

Gee, you keep changing the subject, from 'leaving Fischer alone' to other
things, I think you are just trying to confuse the issue.

"Jerzy" wrote in message
...
IMHO US government is simply changing passports for some USA citizens
because of
security reasons and that`s all.

That's what I thought but this letter proves a deliberate action from the US
governement to arrest Bobby Fischer:

http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/list/p_61/61_0.htm

"PeteCasso" wrote in message
.. .

You changed the subject, I responded to your erroneous statement that the
address of Spassky's and FIDE's open letters was wrong. The source of the
issue has to be addressed, which in this case is the US, so the address is
correct.

But the trial in the US court hasn`t started yet. So far Fischer is being
kept by Japanese. I wonder how US authorities e.g. president George W. Bush
can change the federal warrant of arrest issued on December 15, 1992 ?
AFAIK courts in the USA are independent.

Regards,

Jerzy

"Peter van der Hoog" wrote in message
...

That's what I thought but this letter proves a deliberate action from the
US
governement to arrest Bobby Fischer:

http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/list/p_61/61_0.htm


Ed J. Mc Keon from US Embassy in Tokyo writes in the letter dated June 08,
2004 that Fischer`s pass was revoked in 1997 and he is the subject of
federal warrant of arrest issued on December 15, 1992.
Of course it`s interesting that it took so long for US authorities to track
Fischer in Japan. Now after having read the letter I doubt that even a new
pass will help Fischer to avoid his trial in the US court.


Regards,

Jerzy