I came across this article recently. Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY if you
are reading this could you post the game (surely a game of such experience
you must have its record still)?

Those with Chess Playing Programming know-how might want to check this out
at http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/03rm1.htm which gives the following
(just for the record)...
PARA NEWS :.

COMPUTER CHESS GAME PRODUCES A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE
Posted July 9.03

Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY, relates the following experience he had
concerning an off-the-shelf chess computer he was using in 1988. It played
beyond World Championship level at 1-3 seconds per move for over 80-120
plies or half moves for an entire game. Richard says the computer gave him a
yardstick into its brain. It was calculating at a level over a trillion
times the level of Deep Junior, the strongest computer in existence.

I was a chess theoretician for about 15 years when I published my magnum
opus in 1999. One section of the book was on the Evans Gambit and I've
written a stand-alone book on the Evans as well. Sometime around 1988, I was
studying the Evans with the aid of a weak off-the-shelf computer called Par
Excellence. It plays nothing good at all at blitz speed i.e. 1-5
seconds/move. While studying the Evans, I ran out of ideas so I asked the
computer to make a move. It responded with a very good move. Next, I played
a few more moves and then asked the computer to make another move. It
responded with a very good move. Now, I was intrigued so I forced the
computer to play both sides at blitz speed. Instead of playing junk, which I
expected, it played beyond World Championship level chess. World class chess
has a certain look to it. The subtle handling of pawn tension or piece
tension, the way pressure is built and defused, the tactical accuracy and
the long-term strategies employed that suddenly make sense five moves after
they are played---all these allow one to distinguish between two Masters
versus two World Champions, and, bear in mind, this was all done at blitz
speed.

One of the first accomplishments that White achieved was to achieve
sufficient pressure to force Black to give up the minor exchange (it won the
Bishop for the Knight). Then White played the position like a semi-open
position i.e. one that favors the Bishop even though it wasn't a semi-open
position. White got so much pressure that out of nowhere, Black sacrificed a
pawn. I said to myself, "Aha, you stupid computer, at last I made you
blunder." Amazingly enough, White did not accept the pawn! This struck me as
offsetting blunders, so I had White continue for 6-8 moves. Nothing
happened. The pawn was still there. Then, I went back to the start where the
sacrifice should have been accepted, and I required the computer with White
to win the pawn. I waited for the axe to fall, meaning Black would regain
the pawn with advantage. Instead, 6 moves went by, then 8 and then 10 and
Black had not regained the pawn, but the Black Knights which had been kept
in check the entire game were now very active. Since Black had started out
the sequence with an extra pawn (this was a gambit opening), it just gave
back the pawn and stood better. I was amazed.

Next, I went back to the start of the sequence and allowed White to do what
it wanted to do so it maneuvered against the pawn for 15 moves, won it, and
did not allow counterplay. Deep Junior, the strongest computer in existence,
can only see three moves ahead in one second. My little computer was seeing
15 moves ahead at blitz speed or over a trillion times the level of
computation of Deep Junior.

After a series of exchanges, White emerged with Rook, Bishop, and connected
center pawns. Black had Rook, Knight and passed Rook pawns. White stepped
into the Queening square of the King Rook pawn with its King, blockaded the
Queen Rook pawn with its Bishop and rammed the center pawns home. When White
was about to Queen one of its pawns, Black sacrificed a Rook to stop it.
What is remarkable about this ending is that White had to have known that
the Knight couldn't get to the passed pawns. If it could have, it would have
been a draw. Somehow, when entering the endgame, White had to have known
that that the Knight couldn't get to the pawns.

Richard, author of, 'Universal Chess The Search For Truth and Beauty', is of
the opinion, "that intuition travels beyond the speed of light and permits
us to communicate with the future. That is what I believe precognition is
(my father had it once or twice)", he says.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:59:27 +0800, "Few Good Chessmen"
wrote:

I came across this article recently. Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY if you
are reading this could you post the game (surely a game of such experience
you must have its record still)?

Those with Chess Playing Programming know-how might want to check this out
at http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/03rm1.htm which gives the following
(just for the record)...
PARA NEWS :.

COMPUTER CHESS GAME PRODUCES A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE
Posted July 9.03

Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY, relates the following experience he had
concerning an off-the-shelf chess computer he was using in 1988. It played
beyond World Championship level at 1-3 seconds per move for over 80-120
plies or half moves for an entire game. Richard says the computer gave him a
yardstick into its brain. It was calculating at a level over a trillion
times the level of Deep Junior, the strongest computer in existence.

I was a chess theoretician for about 15 years when I published my magnum
opus in 1999. One section of the book was on the Evans Gambit and I've
written a stand-alone book on the Evans as well.

Richard Moody of NY is rated 1695. A "magnum opus" and stand-alone
book on the Evans Gambit ? Where is it sold?

"Mike Murray" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:59:27 +0800, "Few Good Chessmen"
wrote:

I came across this article recently. Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY if
you
are reading this could you post the game (surely a game of such
experience
you must have its record still)?

Those with Chess Playing Programming know-how might want to check this
out
at http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/03rm1.htm which gives the
following
(just for the record)...
PARA NEWS :.

COMPUTER CHESS GAME PRODUCES A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE
Posted July 9.03

Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY, relates the following experience he had
concerning an off-the-shelf chess computer he was using in 1988. It
played
beyond World Championship level at 1-3 seconds per move for over 80-120
plies or half moves for an entire game. Richard says the computer gave
him a
yardstick into its brain. It was calculating at a level over a trillion
times the level of Deep Junior, the strongest computer in existence.

I was a chess theoretician for about 15 years when I published my magnum
opus in 1999. One section of the book was on the Evans Gambit and I've
written a stand-alone book on the Evans as well.

Richard Moody of NY is rated 1695. A "magnum opus" and stand-alone
book on the Evans Gambit ? Where is it sold?

I have not checked the availability of the publications nor his latest
rating but are you implying he fabricated the experience?

Few Good Chessmen wrote:
COMPUTER CHESS GAME PRODUCES A PARANORMAL EXPERIENCE
Posted July 9.03

Richard Moody Jr. of Berne, NY, relates the following experience he had
concerning an off-the-shelf chess computer he was using in 1988. It
played beyond World Championship level at 1-3 seconds per move for over
80-120 plies or half moves for an entire game.

No it didn't. It happened to find the right moves in an Evans Gambit
game. Since such games tend to be very tactical and forcing (which is
where computers excel), this is not so surprising and certainly not a
candidate for paranormality...


Richard says the computer gave him a yardstick into its brain. It was
calculating at a level over a trillion times the level of Deep Junior,
the strongest computer in existence.

Moody asserts that, because this `Par Excellence' computer didn't accept
an offer of a sacrificed pawn but won the pawn back fifteen moves later,
it must have been looking at least thirty ply ahead in a couple of
seconds. This is nonsense: it seems much more likely that white saw that
accepting the pawn would lead to an immediate worsening of its position,
but that the refutation of black's plan was over the horizon. Also note
that he never claims that Deep Junior plays worse moves in the position;
he just claims that it can only see to three ply in a second.

The claim that the computer was playing `beyond World Championship level'
is, er, interesting, coming from an author who is, himself, so far below
that level.


Details of Moody's book on the Evans Gambit can be found at

http://www.niggemann.com/detaul/buecher/2448.html


Dave.

--
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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ totalitarian leader that you won't
want the children to see!

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:06:20 +0800, "Few Good Chessmen"
wrote:

I was a chess theoretician for about 15 years when I published my magnum
opus in 1999. One section of the book was on the Evans Gambit and I've
written a stand-alone book on the Evans as well.

Richard Moody of NY is rated 1695. A "magnum opus" and stand-alone
book on the Evans Gambit ? Where is it sold?

I have not checked the availability of the publications nor his latest
rating but are you implying he fabricated the experience?

You can view his latest rating on the USCF web site.

There would be negligible market for a book on opening theory written
by a 1695 player, so I'm wondering who published the book. Certainly,
he could have gone the route of the vanity press or self-publiishing.

Fabricated the *experience* ? Not necessarily. But he puffed his
credentials beyond all sense of proportion. You don't have "chess
theoreticians" of class B strength. There is no way he would be able
to evaluate whether a toy computer played at World Championship
strength, as he claims. This is way over a 1695 player's head.

Now, given this, why should we listen to his opinions about computers,
intuition and precognition?

On 12 Dec 2004 13:49:03 +0000 (GMT), David Richerby
wrote:


The claim that the computer was playing `beyond World Championship level'
is, er, interesting, coming from an author who is, himself, so far below
that level.


Details of Moody's book on the Evans Gambit can be found at

http://www.niggemann.com/detaul/buecher/2448.html

Well, I'll be damned. Chess Digest published it. OK, what's the
story? Have I got the wrong "Moody"?



Dave.

Mike Murray wrote:
Fabricated the *experience* ? Not necessarily. But he puffed his
credentials beyond all sense of proportion. You don't have "chess
theoreticians" of class B strength. There is no way he would be able
to evaluate whether a toy computer played at World Championship
strength, as he claims. This is way over a 1695 player's head.

Now, given this, why should we listen to his opinions about
computers,
intuition and precognition?

Second that. I would not lend this any more credence than the story,
a few years ago, about Maroczy's ghost playing Korchnoi.

"Mike Murray" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:06:20 +0800, "Few Good Chessmen"
wrote:

I was a chess theoretician for about 15 years when I published my
magnum
opus in 1999. One section of the book was on the Evans Gambit and I've
written a stand-alone book on the Evans as well.

Richard Moody of NY is rated 1695. A "magnum opus" and stand-alone
book on the Evans Gambit ? Where is it sold?

I have not checked the availability of the publications nor his latest
rating but are you implying he fabricated the experience?

You can view his latest rating on the USCF web site.

I suppose this is only applicable for active Chess Players only.



There would be negligible market for a book on opening theory written
by a 1695 player, so I'm wondering who published the book. Certainly,
he could have gone the route of the vanity press or self-publiishing.

Fabricated the *experience* ? Not necessarily. But he puffed his
credentials beyond all sense of proportion. You don't have "chess
theoreticians" of class B strength. There is no way he would be able
to evaluate whether a toy computer played at World Championship
strength, as he claims. This is way over a 1695 player's head.

I'm not quite agree with this arguments since if by todays standard of Chess
Rating there wouldn't be strong acceptance of any Chess Theoreticians of
classical era (Meaning the Old Masters should be rated below 1900 at present
scale). Leaving a small portion of Chess Players rated over 2000 understood
(therefore preferred) better of Modern (or New) Chess Theories.

He spented 15 years studying Chess Theories before publishing his magnum
opus and I reckon that must worth something to ponder on...



Now, given this, why should we listen to his opinions about computers,
intuition and precognition?

I suppect the game lasted around 30 moves or so and his remark "that
intuition travels beyond the speed of light and permits us to communicate
with the future" caught my attention with the ability of this computer (You
must admit the surpise conclusion made for the Endgame) when compared with
present ones. Pity there was no Game Record along with the article.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:45:32 +0800, "Few Good Chessmen"
wrote:

You can view his latest rating on the USCF web site.

I suppose this is only applicable for active Chess Players only.

No, they retain your rating indefinitely. For players active
recently, they record the highest level that player attained.

There would be negligible market for a book on opening theory written
by a 1695 player, so I'm wondering who published the book. Certainly,
he could have gone the route of the vanity press or self-publiishing.

Since I posted this comment, David Richerby has pointed to a site
which indicates Chess Digest published Moody's book on the Evans
Gambit, which comes as a surprise to me. Maybe somebody can provide
additional background on this.

Certainly, a Class B player could compile collections of games,
articles, and annotations, and clerically integrate this stuff into a
book. But, without consultation with one or more much stronger
players, this B player couldn't be expected to add value (evaluations,
alternate suggestions, etc.) to the compilation.

Fabricated the *experience* ? Not necessarily. But he puffed his
credentials beyond all sense of proportion. You don't have "chess
theoreticians" of class B strength. There is no way he would be able
to evaluate whether a toy computer played at World Championship
strength, as he claims. This is way over a 1695 player's head.

I'm not quite agree with this arguments since if by todays standard of Chess
Rating there wouldn't be strong acceptance of any Chess Theoreticians of
classical era (Meaning the Old Masters should be rated below 1900 at present
scale). Leaving a small portion of Chess Players rated over 2000 understood
(therefore preferred) better of Modern (or New) Chess Theories.

Ratings measure past performance against peers and can be used to
predict future performance against same. Saying that Morphy or
Philidor would have an "x" rating if plopped into contemporary chess
practice is speculative at best. Based on his games, I believe a
time-traveling Morphy might drop the odd game to an opening trap, but
would kick contemporary 1900-rated players' butts.

He spented 15 years studying Chess Theories before publishing his magnum
opus and I reckon that must worth something to ponder on...

For evaluating the worth of a publication? It doesn't mean much to me
unless the person doing the studying has the expertise to make such
study of value.

Mike Murray wrote:
Certainly, a Class B player could compile collections of games,
articles, and annotations, and clerically integrate this stuff into a
book. But, without consultation with one or more much stronger
players, this B player couldn't be expected to add value (evaluations,
alternate suggestions, etc.) to the compilation.

That's why he turned to the chess computer that was channeling the spirit
of Captain Evans, I suppose.


Dave.

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