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  #21  
Old January 10th 05, 12:34 AM
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Jerzy wrote:
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Taylor,


Wow...what an introduction. Apparently you are going on war
with Mr. Taylor :-) ...

Mr Kingston. His name is Kingston, Taylor Kingston. :-)

--Nick

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Old January 10th 05, 12:43 AM
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Taylor Kingston wrote:
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:
I disagree.


You realize, of course, that in doing so you risk the
awful wrath of (dare I say his name?!) ... Lev ... Lev
... no, I dare not.


Taylor Kingston might have misread Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski's post of 7 January 2005 in this thread.
For the record, Mr Holsztynski addressed his post to
Taylor Kingston, then quoted part of what Mr Kingston had
written on 6 January 2005, and then wrote "I disagree".

Evidently, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski was directing his
disagreement toward what Taylor Kingston has written,
though that does *not* imply that Mr Holsztynski also
would not disagree with what Mr Khariton has written.

--Nick

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Old January 10th 05, 12:48 AM
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Lev Khariton ) wrote:
Great, Wlod! You are really digging into chess history.
Many thanks for this story about Al.Flamberg.
Lev Khariton


According to his own post, what Wlodzimierz Holsztynski did
primarily was to quote from the 'Oxford Companion to Chess'
about Flamberg.

Would that be what Lev Khariton regards as 'great' research
and an example of 'really digging into chess history'?

--Nick

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Old January 10th 05, 07:12 AM
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Taylor Kingston wrote (to Goran Tomic):
Goran Tomic wrote:
(snipped)

This thread is something of a new low for you and Lev.
For once I saw something on which Khariton and I could
agree (the GM Emeritus title), and I expressed sincere
support for his viewpoint.


This post is *not* a comment on the history of disputes
between Taylor Kingston and Lev Khariton or Goran Tomic.

This was repaid by him with an insult. Smooth.


Mr Kingston, that's to be expected from many writers
in the chess newsgroups. You may learn, if you have
not already done so, that attempting to be nice to some
other writers here may often be 'repaid' in that way.
(If you happen to be a white American, however, then you may
expect to be spared from most of the racist insults here.)
If you appear to express any support or sympathy for any
of the writers here who tend to insult other people,
then you may expect that the people whom they have
insulted will be less likely to have sympathy for you.

--Nick

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Old January 11th 05, 02:27 AM
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Taylor Kingston wrote:
Goran Tomic wrote:
Dear Mr. Kingston,
you didn't answer.


Goran, I gave you a very clear response.

I repeat these facts:


Your list does not contain a single fact.

This thread is something of a new low for you and Lev. For once I saw
something on which Khariton and I could agree (the GM Emeritus

title),
and I expressed sincere support for his viewpoint. This was repaid by
him with an insult. Smooth.


Taylor, I don't understand why you bother. This is the same Moron Tomic
who wrote:

"Neil Brennen... blamed both PSCF and USCF, they will expel him. If
happens the last solution, it will be good omen and maybe the turning
point for changing their relations towards Bobby Fischer."

Anyone who can with a straight face publish such nonsense must have a
screw or three loose.

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Old January 11th 05, 01:38 PM
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Could you answer instead of Mr. Kingston:

Would be better for Chess Cafe if Mr. Kingston's chief HR kick off the real
plagiator and allow to readers to get information from the best chess
journalist who wrote for Chess Cafe (and many other chess site and
newspapers, e.g "64" together with WCC Petrosian; by the way have you ever
seen Petrosian?)

You want to be Neil Brennen's advocate, too. I proved that Mr Brennen is not
real chess historian, not ever historian. He likes to write chess articles,
that's true, but in my opinion they are so bored and nobody can read them to
the end.

I have one objection on your behavior. I'm sure that your writing on this
list (not only on this tread) was (is) in vain. Because in spite of your
sycophant to Mr Kingston and Mr Brennen (and some others) they will not take
you as their novice and they would not give you money for your
representation. You must be conscious of that fact. So, you can take care
only about yourself and leave them to write answers on my question.

So, if you allow me to write you personally very sincere-don't be Mr
Kingston's or Mr Brennen's toady. I feel enormous disgust on toady... You
only disparage yourself on that way.

Best wishes,
Goran Tomic


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Old January 11th 05, 01:47 PM
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"Nick" wrote in message
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Taylor,


Wow...what an introduction. Apparently you are going on war
with Mr. Taylor :-) ...

Mr Kingston. His name is Kingston, Taylor Kingston. :-)

--Nick


And your name is ... ?

As usual my kind regards to the anonymous "Nick"

Jerzy


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Old January 12th 05, 02:05 AM
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Goran Tomic wrote:
Could you answer instead of Mr. Kingston:

Would be better for Chess Cafe if Mr. Kingston's chief HR kick off

the real
plagiator


The real plagiator was Lev Khariton. He was kick off. He chess
criminal. Khariton must be locked in room, tied to chair, and made to
read stupid Moron Tomic posts. That is punishment.

and allow to readers to get information from the best chess
journalist who wrote for Chess Cafe (and many other chess site and
newspapers, e.g "64" together with WCC Petrosian; by the way have you

ever
seen Petrosian?)


Petrosian dead many years. No see Petro.

You want to be Neil Brennen's advocate, too. I proved that Mr Brennen

is not
real chess historian,


"...chess writer and historian Neil Brennen..." - John Hilbert, Essays
in American Chess History

"The following nugget comes
from well-known chess historian Neil Brennen of Pennsylvania."
-IM John Donaldson, Mechanic's Institute Newsletter

"...chess historian Neil Brennen looks westward...."
- NM Frisco del Rosario, California Chess Journal

"The Historian" - Larry Parr

"...regularly fascinating historical contributions from Neil Brennen."
-IM Richard Forster

"I cannot claim to
know Neil Brennen well, but from several years of reading his work and
corresponding with him, I consider him quite a good writer and
historical researcher. " - Taylor Kingston

"...leading chess historians [such as] N. Brennen..." -Vlastimil Fiala,
Quarterly for Chess History

And there's even a post by Phil Innes:
"Someone had tried to make fun of Neil's approach by belittling his
standing as a chess player, rather than his logic, explanation or
careful study; attributes usually valuable in a historian."

not ever historian. He likes to write chess articles,
that's true, but in my opinion they are so bored and nobody can read

them to
the end.


The Chess Journalists of America judges sure did:
http://correspondencechess.com/campb...es/a040422.htm

I have one objection on your behavior.


Only one?

I'm sure that your writing on this
list (not only on this tread) was (is) in vain. Because in spite of

your
sycophant to Mr Kingston and Mr Brennen (and some others) they will

not take
you as their novice and they would not give you money for your
representation.


Mr. Kingston is from Vermont. He will not give me money. I will not be
his novice. He will not be my Mother Superior.

You must be conscious of that fact. So, you can take care
only about yourself and leave them to write answers on my question.


I will do so.

So, if you allow me to write you personally very sincere-don't be Mr
Kingston's or Mr Brennen's toady.


I will not be Mr. Kingston's toady. Neil Brennen is the only man I
toady to.

I feel enormous disgust on toady...


You are enormous disgust, Moron Tomic. Do you have picture of Botvinnik
or picture of Khariton posted over your bed? Do you have pictures of
Botvinnik with holes cut in them for your pleasure?

You
only disparage yourself on that way.

Best wishes,
Goran Tomic


Best wishes,
Neil Brennen

  #29  
Old January 12th 05, 02:16 AM
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Goran Tomic wrote (to 'Spam Scone'):
(snipped)
You want to be Neil Brennen's advocate, too.


*If* Goran Tomic were more perceptive, then he should know
that 'Spam Scone' has quite a good reason to be "Neil Brennen's
advocate". :-)

I proved that Mr Brennen is not real chess historian, not ever
historian. He likes to write chess articles, that's true, but in
my opinion they are so bored and nobody can read them to the end.


As far as I know, however, Neil Brennen has received some award(s)
for his chess articles.

I have one objection on your behavior. I'm sure that your writing
on this list (not only on this tread) was (is) in vain. Because in
spite of your sycophant to Mr Kingston and Mr Brennen (and some
others) they will not take you as their novice and they would not
give you money for your representation.


I doubt that 'Spam Scone' expects Mr Brennen to 'give (him) money
for (his) representation' here. I also doubt that Mr Brennen will
ever accuse 'Spam Scone' of misrepresenting him here. :-)

You must be conscious of that fact.


Goran Tomic may be correct here.

I have no doubt that 'Spam Scone' is 'conscious of (the) fact' that
Mr Brennen 'would not give (him) money for (his) representation'.

So, you can take care only about yourself and leave them
to write answers on my question.

I expect that 'Spam Scone' will 'take care (of himself)'.

--Nick

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Old January 12th 05, 02:25 AM
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Jerzy Ciruk wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message
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Jerzy Ciruk wrote about Mr Taylor Kingston:
... Apparently you are going on war with Mr. Taylor :-)


Mr Kingston. His name is Kingston, Taylor Kingston. :-)


And your name is ... ?


'My name is for my friends'.
--T.E. Lawrence in the film 'Lawrence of Arabia'

As usual my kind regards to the anonymous "Nick"
Jerzy


Doesn't Jerzy Ciruk have anything better to do?

Perhaps Jerzy Ciruk should write another of his many
posts here praising the moral virtues of Sam Sloan.
Those posts seem to have given Jerzy Ciruk the kind
of attention that he deserves.

--Nick

 




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