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Enter any Russian Orthodox forum and u'll see that it is what Russian
"balalaika players" do: they call themselves "chosen" and speak about
"special Russian way", "Russian national idea" and the only True
Russian Orthodox church. Any other religions and races are "inferior'
in their opinion.

Dear Katerina,

Thank you for writing. I don't think there is really any question about if
people from a religious, or simply national perspective, see themselves as
superior.

It is more commonly stated at a national level - 'our country is best' and
so on.

The question is; can this nonsense be looked at critically?

As you may see here there are many people willing to defend or attack what
is essentially their own filtering of events. In my opinion, that is the
only issue that writers address here. I think certain groups feel themselves
immune from any criticism - it is not okay to speak about those issue - and
they publicly resent it. Other people are critical only of other groups of
people, not their own.

People who are critical of the behavior of the United States [for example]
are suggested to be 'anti-American'. And perhaps they are, but only if the
behavior of the countries politics as a whole is confused with all the
people in it.

These are juvenile appreciations, as if we were not all human beings first,
and these cultural and national filters which emphasises a difference
between us, [often strongly - ie, with hate] these differences are more
important than everything that is common to us all.

While not very much is revealed during these interactions, we do begin to
see what filters people have when they discuss issues, and this suggests why
they express a certain type of behavior with current events, and even
writing of past events.

Somehow to be honest, to be truthful, will be anti-something or other. This
is inevitable. I should logically declare that I am anti-everything But
I am also pro-something, something more universal, as if any person in the
world could achieve a level of intelligence, and that intelligence is
//indistinguishable// by sex, race, country, religion, colour or any other
factor.

Cordially, Phil Innes

"michael adams" wrote in message
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Chess One wrote:

wrote in message
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Enter any Russian Orthodox forum and u'll see that it is what Russian
"balalaika players" do: they call themselves "chosen" and speak about
"special Russian way", "Russian national idea" and the only True
Russian Orthodox church. Any other religions and races are "inferior'
in their opinion.

Dear Katerina,

Thank you for writing. I don't think there is really any question about
if
people from a religious, or simply national perspective, see themselves
as
superior.

Shut the **** up fill (phill) you are such a disgustingly repressed
little Vermontese, Englander - that I gag to respond. Katerina was just
about to bestow pleasures unique on Wlod or I, & along comes big-brother
Phillip to adjudicate & sniff pheromones. Phil, take your mutt out for
the business - cute?!..

The only person Natalia-the-bad wrote to in these newsgroups was me. Helmet
and Rolf never forgave me for it.

Just as well I was hunting for net-chicks, not blokes, no? )

Phil

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:
Anders, as long as you are outside the charter
of humor, you are... boring! (Yawn).

Wlod


Wlod,

I will make this a chess subject by including Bobby Fischer, whom you
called anti-semite, in which he vehemently denied because semites
include Arabs.

Fischer belives in God. He also believes in the bible. His bible says
that his God is the God of Isaac and Abraham.

Who is the Jewish God?

Liam Too wrote:

Wlod,

I will make this a chess subject by including Bobby Fischer, whom you
called anti-semite, in which he vehemently denied because semites
include Arabs.

Fischer belives in God. He also believes in the bible. His bible says
that his God is the God of Isaac and Abraham.

Who is the Jewish God?

I don't know, I am not religious.

My point was: Jews a few thousands years ago
got in an intimate relation with their God.
It was helping them to cope with the harsh
everyday reality, I guess. They have never
dreamed that two billion or so peple will
adopt their God as their own. They have
never asked others to do so. And now some
antisemitic racist degenerates are accusing
Jews(!) of racism on this account, which
is preposterous. Well, this entire antisemitic
business, promoted on rgc* by several
participants like Boobaki, is cretinism, but
a dangerous cretinism since today for nistance
it supports and serves terrorism.

Wlod

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod) wrote:
I don't know, I am not religious.

My point was: Jews a few thousands years ago
got in an intimate relation with their God.
It was helping them to cope with the harsh
everyday reality, I guess. They have never
dreamed that two billion or so peple will
adopt their God as their own. They have
never asked others to do so. And now some
antisemitic racist degenerates are accusing
Jews(!) of racism on this account, which
is preposterous. Well, this entire antisemitic
business, promoted on rgc* by several
participants like Boobaki, is cretinism, but
a dangerous cretinism since today for nistance
it supports and serves terrorism.

Wlod

Wlod,

My point is that God is God and he is the God of
all people. The Jewish people are NOT the only
chosen people of God, everybody is.

My Bible, in Galatians 3:28-29, says:

28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free person,
there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendant, heirs
according to the promise.

Dear Wlod,

I know you are skeptical, and believe me, with nearly twenty centuries of
the history of Christendom, I don't blame you.

I would simply point out from the Pentateuch (the first five books of the
Hebrew Scriptures), that God told Abraham "... and all the families of the
ground will certainly bless themselves by means of you"---Genesis 12:3.

I think this is the primary reason why human beings ascribe to, and put
faith in, as you put it, the Jewish God.

By the way, in those same books of Hebrew Scriptures, the name of the
Almighty God (that very same Jewish God), is given many times in four Hebrew
Charcaters, transliterated into English as YHWH. These four characters are
known among bible scholars and Jews alike, as the tetragrammaton. Since
Hebrew at the time of the taking down of the Pentateuch did not have any
vowels, this name of God is often spoken aloud as Yahweh, or again tranlated
into English, as Jehovah. I have actually heard middle eastern ethnic
speakers from the ancient lineage to that area actually prounounce this name
in public.

Some further detail is found in a set of books known as "Insight on the
Scriptures" (a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses) and sheds light as to why
the name of God is in the state it is today among humanity. If I may quote:

"Correct Pronunciation of the Divine Name. "Jehovah" is the best known
English pronunciation of the divine name, although "Yahweh" is favored by
most Hebrew scholars. The oldest Hebrew manuscripts present the name in the
form of four consonants, commonly called the Tetragrammaton (from Greek
te·tra-, meaning "four," and gram´ma, "letter"). These four letters (written
from right to left) are ???? and may be transliterated into English as YHWH
(or, JHVH).

"The Hebrew consonants of the name are therefore known. The question is,
Which vowels are to be combined with those consonants? Vowel points did not
come into use in Hebrew until the second half of the first millennium C.E.
(See HEBREW, II [Hebrew Alphabet and Script].) Furthermore, because of a
religious superstition that had begun centuries earlier, the vowel pointing
found in Hebrew manuscripts does not provide the key for determining which
vowels should appear in the divine name.

"Superstition hides the name. At some point a superstitious idea arose among
the Jews that it was wrong even to pronounce the divine name (represented by
the Tetragrammaton). Just what basis was originally assigned for
discontinuing the use of the name is not definitely known. Some hold that
the name was viewed as being too sacred for imperfect lips to speak. Yet the
Hebrew Scriptures themselves give no evidence that any of God's true
servants ever felt any hesitancy about pronouncing his name. Non-Biblical
Hebrew documents, such as the so-called Lachish Letters, show the name was
used in regular correspondence in Palestine during the latter part of the
seventh century B.C.E.

"Another view is that the intent was to keep non-Jewish peoples from knowing
the name and possibly misusing it. However, Jehovah himself said that he
would 'have his name declared in all the earth' (Ex 9:16; compare 1Ch 16:23,
24; Ps 113:3; Mal 1:11, 14), to be known even by his adversaries. (Isa 64:2)
The name was in fact known and used by pagan nations both in pre-Common Era
times and in the early centuries of the Common Era. (The Jewish
Encyclopedia, 1976, Vol. XII, p. 119) Another claim is that the purpose was
to protect the name from use in magical rites. If so, this was poor
reasoning, as it is obvious that the more mysterious the name became through
disuse the more it would suit the purposes of practicers of magic."

---end quote

The good news for "all of the human families of the ground" is that
Jehovah's promises to Abraham are as good today as they were then (certainly
the will of God is unchaged), and the Earth, our ancestral home, will soon
be a beautiful paradise. (Compa Psalm 92:7, Isaiah 9:6,7, Psalm 72:7,8)

I know how easy it is to be frustrated and upset in todays world (or the
ancient one, for that matter). For it is the futility of man that he knows
death, and lives only a short time at that. Many times, the suffering and
injustice seems too much to bear.

I believe the greatest way to peace and happiness in this world, is to take
in knowledge of this God of the Jews (really all of human kind), Jehovah the
Almighty God and the only begotten son which he sent into this world, Jesus
Christ (John 17:3).

Cordially,
Tom Klem


"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)" wrote in message
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Liam Too wrote:

Wlod,

I will make this a chess subject by including Bobby Fischer, whom you
called anti-semite, in which he vehemently denied because semites
include Arabs.

Fischer belives in God. He also believes in the bible. His bible says
that his God is the God of Isaac and Abraham.

Who is the Jewish God?

I don't know, I am not religious.

My point was: Jews a few thousands years ago
got in an intimate relation with their God.
It was helping them to cope with the harsh
everyday reality, I guess. They have never
dreamed that two billion or so peple will
adopt their God as their own. They have
never asked others to do so. And now some
antisemitic racist degenerates are accusing
Jews(!) of racism on this account, which
is preposterous. Well, this entire antisemitic
business, promoted on rgc* by several
participants like Boobaki, is cretinism, but
a dangerous cretinism since today for nistance
it supports and serves terrorism.

Wlod

Tom Klem wrote:
I believe the greatest way to peace and happiness in this world,
is to take in knowledge of this God of the Jews (really all of
human kind), Jehovah the Almighty God and the only begotten son
which he sent into this world, Jesus Christ (John 17:3).

Cordially,
Tom Klem

Hi Tom,

The God of all human kind indeed!

Re 7:9 says, "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which
no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples
and tongues..."

Regards,

Lance

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Enter any Russian Orthodox forum and u'll see that it is what Russian
"balalaika players" do: they call themselves "chosen" and speak about
"special Russian way", "Russian national idea" and the only True
Russian Orthodox church. Any other religions and races are "inferior'
in their opinion.

They certainly hold no monopoly on that.

"michael adams" wrote in message
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Katerina, here in Sydney I watch the Russian 1/2 hour 'news' feed, the
female presenter is very spunky (attractive). Are you like her?. Some
Russians can be too arrogant (pushy) rather like some Chinese, this I
know from humility. Katerina, can you put politics aside & concentrate
on the massive cultural wealth that Mother Russe has given the world?..

Lenin's tomb?

True, but they never recognize that.