Boobaki's antisemitism, 1
=========================

I'll provide quootations from Boobaki's post
and will show that even a moron like him can
do damage by posting numerous antisemitic articles
which amount to a propaganda activity. Reuter
agency knows a few more tricks, true, but
nevertheless Boobaki mastered some too--
propaganda is a cheap art available even to him.

Please, if you will, check the rgcm thread about Spassky's
anti-Jewish action:

"Boris Spassky signed letter to ban Jewish organizations"

Here is the link and also its short version:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...3c5ba4762ecba4

http://tinyurl.com/6blho

In his post dated 2005-04-01, "Nick" Boobaki
is dishonest when he writes:

"Some trolls (particularly Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) have
accused me--without being able to cite any evidence--of
being anti-Semitic, [...]"

The point is that I have provided plenty of evidence of
Boobaki's antisemitism on rgc*. And I referred to specific
Boobaki's posts. His excuse for what he has written
is that indeed I felt it a childish waste of time
to bother with literal quotes. This kind of dishonesty
on Boobaki's part is his signature.

Let me add that SNicky calls others "trolls" but he is already
trolling. Indeed, this thread is connected to chess via Spassky
while sNicky "Nick" Boobaki writes about himself (and lies).

*******

This rgcm thread is connected to chess via Spassky but
in the same post Boobaki trolls as follows (without any
connection to chess but the goal of creating a negative
impression about Israel & the USA)--quote from troll Boobaki:

Here's a comment by Baruch Kimmerling, an Israeli scholar
who has written a history of the Palestinians:

"Even before the attacks on September 11, 2001, the Americans--
in contrast with the Europeans--were *strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*, an attitude that influences their
views on the Israel-Palestine conflict. The majority of the
American public and mass media gave almost unconditional support
to Israel without distinguishing between Israel and the policies
of its government. ... "

Boobaki is sooo proud of the following tricks:

1. He quotes someone else, thus seemingly escaping the
responsibility for the propaganda which he spills on rgc*.
I have news for you, Boobaki--unless you oppose the quoted
views you are responsibnle for spreading them. Understand,
coward?

2. Boobaki does what antisemites always do. He extracts
among Jews some "good Jews". Recently Boobaki went a bit
too far because he refers repeatedly to the Jewishnes
of a certain rgc* participant, who shows sympathy for SNicky.
In return sNicky turns him into another "good Jew". This technique
was standard for communist/Soviet propaganda also in the context
of the communism-capitalsim ("imperialism") conflict. They
would say: even capitalist XY had to ackinowledge... And
communists were making you to believe that such argument
has a higher value.

3. The above quote stresses supposedly "strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*" attitude of Americans. And this
is supposed to have an (essential) adverse effect on the Israel-
Palestine conflict. The truth is that the anti-American
and especially anti-Jewish prejudice in Moslem countries
is overwhelming, so that the American (or Jewish?) "attitude"
pales by comparison. The press, media and school textbooks
in those countries are anti-Jewish in the most crude, primitive
way. Boobaki does his dirty propaganda, he creates a false image
of the situation in Mid East and of the situation of Arabs, Moslems
and Jews. He does his antisemitic trolling act on rgc*
obsessively. A typical Arab/Moslem can live a meaningful
life, very little affected by anti-ARAB/Moslem prejudice
in Israel (Arab terrorism caused a lot of harm in this
respect though), and even more so in the USA. But a typical
situation of a Jew in an Arab/Moslem country means
living in terror, means severe persecution and a great
risk to her/his life.

*******

Another quote from the same trolling by Boobaki:

" It should be noted that some persons of
Jewish faith or heritage have signed such
petition(s) to boycott. Predictably, she has
received 'hate mail' (such as denouncing
her as an 'anti-Semitic whore'). "

And what would be the sense or Boobaki's goal
for posting such trolling on r.g.CHESS.*?

Boobaki creates over and over an image of
a tiny minority of "good Jews", who supposedly
see how bad are Jews in general. In short,
Boobaki consistently tries to brainwash his
readers into view that Jews are bad one way
or another.

Observe also, that a casual reader might be
under an impression that "denouncing her as
an 'anti-Semitic whore')" was done by Jews.
These are typical dirty ways of propaganda.

********

Another quote from still the same Boobaki's post:

"Israel Shahak's courageous criticisms of Israel's
many crimes (including torture and murder) against
the Palestinians made him extremely hated
(including some death threats) by many supporters
of Israel."

Snicky likes to talk about "supporters of Israel".
But the great majority of people who are simply
humane are supporters of other people's right
to be free from terror, from being "destroyed",
"pushed into the sea", annihilated. They are simply
humane, and as a consequence they support humane
causes. They support Israel not as Israel but as
a country which is persecuted.

Snicky writes "hated...by many supporters of Israel".
And how many is "many"? Snicky "Nick" is performing
his standard sleazy antisemitic propaganda act.

And again he found a "good Jew".

Next, the crimes were committed not by Israel as such
but by certain individual Israel's representatives who
were acting against Israel's policy and breaking Israel's
law. Boobaki is sleazy. He tries to paint Israel
in his, Boobaki's sleazy way. The truth is that until
Israel has implemented several defensive measures,
like the fence, the Israelis were murdered by terrorists
almost daily: children in the kindergartens, people in
public transportation, shoppers in the supermarkets, during
weddings... The antisemitic trolling "Nick" Boobaki is
falsifying the reality by selecting information and in
effect by lying about the PROPORTIONS. On a chess discussion
group he not only trolls (a relatively minor offense
compared to Boobaki's offense of prejudice) but

Boobaki ignores the major, large scale problems
(Arab/Moslem terrorism and the hostile policy of
several Arab/Moslem countries toward Israel), while
he zooms on problems which are on a much smaller
scale, and rather under control, and which are
induced by the major problems. He performs an
outrageous deformation of the real situation.
Boobaki's antisemitic.

I've written above "rather under control". Only an alert
reader will pay attention to the fact that at least
there is an active "Israeli League of Human and Civil Rights",
which can be heard by everybody, even around the world.

One can only wish that anything close to it existed
in the Moslem countries in the Mid East, any equally
or at least one tenth as active "Arab League of Human
and Civil Rights".

How perfidious is Boobaki's dirty propaganda!

******

Of many possible books Boobaki recomends, on
a chess discussion group, the following one,
which has "charming" (read: brainwashing rgc*) title:

"Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel"

Not many rgc* participants are going to get that
book. So, what's the point? Boobaki's effect is propagandistic.
We all have heard about the Muslim fundamentalism. Propagandist
Boobaki counters this notion with "Jewish fundamentalism".
While Muslim fundamentalism is for years a grave problem
around the world, the good antisemite Boobaki wants you
to forget about the Kings Indian Defense and to focus on
the "Jewish fundamentalism". Why? Does it have for our world
or even just Mid East, even one hundred of the ominous dark
weight of the Muslim fundamentalism? Of course not. But
then, what can you expect from a sleazy antisemite sNicky
"Nick" Boobaki?

******

Wlod

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:

Boobaki's antisemitism, 1
=========================

Please, if you will, check the rgcm thread about Spassky's
anti-Jewish action:

"Boris Spassky signed letter to ban Jewish organizations"

Here is the link and also its short version:


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...3c5ba4762ecba4

http://tinyurl.com/6blho

In his post dated 2005-04-01, "Nick" Boobaki [...]

*******

This rgcm thread is connected to chess via Spassky but
in the same post Boobaki trolls as follows (without any
connection to chess but with the goal of creating a negative
impression about Israel & the USA)--quote from troll Boobaki:

Here's a comment by Baruch Kimmerling, an Israeli scholar
who has written a history of the Palestinians:

"Even before the attacks on September 11, 2001, the Americans--
in contrast with the Europeans--were *strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*, an attitude that influences their
views on the Israel-Palestine conflict. The majority of the
American public and mass media gave almost unconditional support
to Israel without distinguishing between Israel and the policies
of its government. ... "

[...]


3. The above quote stresses supposedly "strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*" attitude of Americans. [...]
A typical Arab/Moslem can live a meaningful
life, very little affected by anti-ARAB/Moslem prejudice
in Israel (Arab terrorism caused a lot of harm in this
respect though), and even more so in the USA. But a typical
situation of a Jew in an Arab/Moslem country means
living in terror, means severe persecution and a great
risk to her/his life.

*******

Here is a list of my personal observations related to the
above issue:

Boobaki's antisemitism, 1
=========================

I'll provide quootations from Boobaki's post
and will show that even a moron like him can
do damage by posting numerous antisemitic articles
which amount to a propaganda activity. Reuter
agency knows a few more tricks, true, but
nevertheless Boobaki mastered some too--
propaganda is a cheap art available even to him.

Please, if you will, check the rgcm thread about Spassky's
anti-Jewish action:

"Boris Spassky signed letter to ban Jewish organizations"

Here is the link and also its short version:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...3c5ba4762ecba4

http://tinyurl.com/6blho

In his post dated 2005-04-01, "Nick" Boobaki
is dishonest when he writes:

"Some trolls (particularly Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) have
accused me--without being able to cite any evidence--of
being anti-Semitic, [...]"

The point is that I have provided plenty of evidence of
Boobaki's antisemitism on rgc*. And I referred to specific
Boobaki's posts. His excuse for what he has written
is that indeed I felt it a childish waste of time
to bother with literal quotes. This kind of dishonesty
on Boobaki's part is his signature.

Let me add that SNicky calls others "trolls" but he is already
trolling. Indeed, this thread is connected to chess via Spassky
while sNicky "Nick" Boobaki writes about himself (and lies).

*******

This rgcm thread is connected to chess via Spassky but
in the same post Boobaki trolls as follows (without any
connection to chess but the goal of creating a negative
impression about Israel & the USA)--quote from troll Boobaki:

Here's a comment by Baruch Kimmerling, an Israeli scholar
who has written a history of the Palestinians:

"Even before the attacks on September 11, 2001, the Americans--
in contrast with the Europeans--were *strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*, an attitude that influences their
views on the Israel-Palestine conflict. The majority of the
American public and mass media gave almost unconditional support
to Israel without distinguishing between Israel and the policies
of its government. ... "

Boobaki is sooo proud of the following tricks:

1. He quotes someone else, thus seemingly escaping the
responsibility for the propaganda which he spills on rgc*.
I have news for you, Boobaki--unless you oppose the quoted
views you are responsibnle for spreading them. Understand,
coward?

2. Boobaki does what antisemites always do. He extracts
among Jews some "good Jews". Recently Boobaki went a bit
too far because he refers repeatedly to the Jewishnes
of a certain rgc* participant, who shows sympathy for SNicky.
In return sNicky turns him into another "good Jew". This technique
was standard for communist/Soviet propaganda also in the context
of the communism-capitalsim ("imperialism") conflict. They
would say: even capitalist XY had to ackinowledge... And
communists were making you to believe that such argument
has a higher value.

3. The above quote stresses supposedly "strongly and stereotypically
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim*" attitude of Americans. And this
is supposed to have an (essential) adverse effect on the Israel-
Palestine conflict. The truth is that the anti-American
and especially anti-Jewish prejudice in Moslem countries
is overwhelming, so that the American (or Jewish?) "attitude"
pales by comparison. The press, media and school textbooks
in those countries are anti-Jewish in the most crude, primitive
way. Boobaki does his dirty propaganda, he creates a false image
of the situation in Mid East and of the situation of Arabs, Moslems
and Jews. He does his antisemitic trolling act on rgc*
obsessively. A typical Arab/Moslem can live a meaningful
life, very little affected by anti-ARAB/Moslem prejudice
in Israel (Arab terrorism caused a lot of harm in this
respect though), and even more so in the USA. But a typical
situation of a Jew in an Arab/Moslem country means
living in terror, means severe persecution and a great
risk to her/his life.

*******

Another quote from the same trolling by Boobaki:

" It should be noted that some persons of
Jewish faith or heritage have signed such
petition(s) to boycott. Predictably, she has
received 'hate mail' (such as denouncing
her as an 'anti-Semitic whore'). "

And what would be the sense or Boobaki's goal
for posting such trolling on r.g.CHESS.*?

Boobaki creates over and over an image of
a tiny minority of "good Jews", who supposedly
see how bad are Jews in general. In short,
Boobaki consistently tries to brainwash his
readers into view that Jews are bad one way
or another.

Observe also, that a casual reader might be
under an impression that "denouncing her as
an 'anti-Semitic whore')" was done by Jews.
These are typical dirty ways of propaganda.

********

Another quote from still the same Boobaki's post:

"Israel Shahak's courageous criticisms of Israel's
many crimes (including torture and murder) against
the Palestinians made him extremely hated
(including some death threats) by many supporters
of Israel."

Snicky likes to talk about "supporters of Israel".
But the great majority of people who are simply
humane are supporters of other people's right
to be free from terror, from being "destroyed",
"pushed into the sea", annihilated. They are simply
humane, and as a consequence they support humane
causes. They support Israel not as Israel but as
a country which is persecuted.

Snicky writes "hated...by many supporters of Israel".
And how many is "many"? Snicky "Nick" is performing
his standard sleazy antisemitic propaganda act.

And again he found a "good Jew".

Next, the crimes were committed not by Israel as such
but by certain individual Israel's representatives who
were acting against Israel's policy and breaking Israel's
law. Boobaki is sleazy. He tries to paint Israel
in his, Boobaki's sleazy way. The truth is that until
Israel has implemented several defensive measures,
like the fence, the Israelis were murdered by terrorists
almost daily: children in the kindergartens, people in
public transportation, shoppers in the supermarkets, during
weddings... The antisemitic trolling "Nick" Boobaki is
falsifying the reality by selecting information and in
effect by lying about the PROPORTIONS. On a chess discussion
group he not only trolls (a relatively minor offense
compared to Boobaki's offense of prejudice) but

Boobaki ignores the major, large scale problems
(Arab/Moslem terrorism and the hostile policy of
several Arab/Moslem countries toward Israel), while
he zooms on problems which are on a much smaller
scale, and rather under control, and which are
induced by the major problems. He performs an
outrageous deformation of the real situation.
Boobaki's antisemitic.

I've written above "rather under control". Only an alert
reader will pay attention to the fact that at least
there is an active "Israeli League of Human and Civil Rights",
which can be heard by everybody, even around the world.

One can only wish that anything close to it existed
in the Moslem countries in the Mid East, any equally
or at least one tenth as active "Arab League of Human
and Civil Rights".

How perfidious is Boobaki's dirty propaganda!

******

Of many possible books Boobaki recomends, on
a chess discussion group, the following one,
which has "charming" (read: brainwashing rgc*) title:

"Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel"

Not many rgc* participants are going to get that
book. So, what's the point? Boobaki's effect is propagandistic.
We all have heard about the Muslim fundamentalism. Propagandist
Boobaki counters this notion with "Jewish fundamentalism".
While Muslim fundamentalism is for years a grave problem
around the world, the good antisemite Boobaki wants you
to forget about the Kings Indian Defense and to focus on
the "Jewish fundamentalism". Why? Does it have for our world
or even just Mid East, even one hundred of the ominous dark
weight of the Muslim fundamentalism? Of course not. But
then, what can you expect from a sleazy antisemite sNicky
"Nick" Boobaki?

******

Wlod


















*****
*****

-- I had next door neighbours from Jordania in Ann Arbor
(North Campus III apts, 2nd floor, which means that indeed
we were close, with only 2 apts on one side of the starcase;
but I mean much more than that--we were soul partners, we viewed
Mid East in exactly the same way) during 1969/70 academic year.
They were visited socially by other Arabs, one of them was
sending money to PLO;

-- I was friends with my Iranian students in Austin (Texas)
during 1972/73 academic year (they've been to my house many
times, and thanks to them I knew more about the situation in
Iran than CIA, it seems);

-- I was friends with young Arabs, mostly my neighbors,
in Orlando (FL) during years 1981-84 (we were together talking,
eating, drinking, swimming, going to bars, meeting each other
girls, taking short trips; I was assissting/consulting one of
them, as a friend, in his business...); they were from Syria,
Lebanon, Saudi Arabia... and one was an Israeli; I even
befriended the friends (and relatives) of my friends, when
they came to Orlando from Boston;

-- I was working with and befriending Iranians during years
1991-94 in The Woodlands (just North of Houston; one of them
was providing graphics for my algorithm; with another we
also socialized closely: we had meals together, played chess,
we run every week day 10k or even 20k, we biked, swimmed,
had company of women, we took part in a 5M race...);

-- I had a number wonderful conversations with an Iranian
chess player (in a Border's bookstore and in bars) during
year 2001;

And, of course, I had many other, more casual contacts
with Arabs and Moslems in the USA. I listed only those with
which I was close. I know one thing--they were all
comfortable in the USA. I don't even remember any of them
bitching about the USA (like at least one young French girl
did, when she was a bit drunk and kicking the cars parked
on the street). I am sure that they found many things nicer
in their own country, it's only natural. But they were living
in the USA to the full, without any feeling of being
persecuted or discriminated against.

All my examples are typical and taken from different strata
of society. But there is no way that a **typical** situation
of a Jew in the Moslem/Arab countries would be equally
comfortable--far from it!!!

On the other hand, my Arab Israeli friend-engineer, got
his education in Israel and had only good things to say
about Israel (we were neighbors in 1981, perhaps in 1982 too)
******

Wlod

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" wrote this and that and much more, much too
much, in fact, still failing to prove his claim that Nick is an anti-Semite.

I knew he was not up to the job. Viel Geschrei, und wenig Wolle, as the
Germans say. I asked for five anti-Semitic (or otherwise) racist quotations
from Nick. Wlod has not delivered one, not one.

He has demonstrated, what we all knew quite wel, that Nick is very critical
of Israel. That is not in itself anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism means that you
despise Jews not matter what they do and not on account of what they do, but
on account of their being Jews. Nothing indicates that Nick despises Jews on
account of their being Jews. He does not like what the Israelis are doing to
the Palestinians (and neither do I). That is not anti-Semitism.

Wlod has a very bad case. If he can not do better than this, he would lose
in court.

HansJ

Hans J=F8rgen Lassen wrote:
"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" wrote this and that and much more,
much too
much, in fact, still failing to prove his claim that Nick is an
anti-Semite.

I knew he was not up to the job. Viel Geschrei, und wenig Wolle, as
the
Germans say. I asked for five anti-Semitic (or otherwise) racist
quotations
from Nick. Wlod has not delivered one, not one.

He has demonstrated, what we all knew quite wel, that Nick is very
critical
of Israel. That is not in itself anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism means
that you
despise Jews not matter what they do and not on account of what they
do, but
on account of their being Jews. Nothing indicates that Nick despises
Jews on
account of their being Jews. He does not like what the Israelis are
doing to
the Palestinians (and neither do I). That is not anti-Semitism.

Wlod has a very bad case. If he can not do better than this, he would
lose
in court.

HansJ

Good article on the subject. Once it is read I believe that there will
be no more reasons to continue this thread in a Chess newsgroup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism

Rob

Hans J=F8rgen Lassen wrote:

"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" wrote this
and that and much more, much too
much, in fact, still failing to prove
his claim that Nick is an anti-Semite.

To an antisemite like you, who has violently
attacked an Israeli Go club on rgc*, I am
not going to prove anything. To honest people
I have provided an ample proof. And it is
only part 1, about just one Boobaki's hatred
spilling post. I'll show that his posts
amount to an antisemitic campain. I was on
the receiving end of one in the past, and I can
easily recognize them. It is time that antisemitic
trolling on rgc* will be recognized as such.
(However these chess groups unfortunately are
going down the drain; over the past few years
antisemites and antisemitic sentiments are more
and more loud on rgc* and perhaps it is an
irrevocable process)

He has demonstrated, what we all knew quite wel,
that Nick is very critical of Israel. That is
not in itself anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism means
that you despise Jews not matter what they do

"no matter what they do" -- very good Hans. We have
two cases of anti Jewish prejudice--Boobaki and you.

When it sounds like Anti-Semitism, when it stinks
like Anti-Semitism then it IS Anti-Semitism.
Have no illusions.

Wlod

Anti-Semites like sNicky Boobaki love the term
"supporters of Israel". I am afraid that there
are thousands upon thousands of antisemites in
the Western world, while millions among Moslem
countries.

On the other hand there are millions of honest
people, both in Moslem and other countries who
are for human rights, and in particular for
the right of Israelis not to be murdered, pushed
to the sea, etc. Anti-Semites call these people
"supporters of Israel". It is a propaganda trick
with the goal of demeaning the quest for the basic
human rights.

Boobaki has called me Zionist on rgc* just like
communist Anti-Semites did, exactly in the same
nonsensical way. (He has also called me "racist"
without ever providing any quote--he, the quote
parrot of rgc*). Actually I am a supporter of Palestine
and Palestine people as much as opf Israel and Iraeli
people. My posts on rgc* are focusing on the injustice
with which Jews are treated on rgc* by Boobaki, Hans,
a neoNazi whose name I don't even bother to remember
(of course coward Boobaki has no name, no face, only
a dirty virtual face), and a bunch of others. But
I am for friendly relations between Arabs and Israelis.
Thus I am for both of them, while antisemites like
Boobaki are against BOTH of these people.

If I were an active supporter of some causes,
it was the cause of Polish democratic opposition
(in years 1966-8, and again in 1977-81), the cause
of Polish uncensored press (1977-81), the
cause of Polish Americans (1977-81). I risked
not only my freedom (1966-68) but also the well
being of my family, which was especially hard
(my brother actually was imprisoned for four
and a half months, without a trial, which means
extra difficult conditions in jail). In the States
I have devoted time, energy and my own money to
the Polish causes. I also was collecting money
for the Polish uncensored press (underground)
and democratic opposition (and later for the
early Solidarity) at weekend Polonia picknicks.

In the case of Israel, for which I have sentiment,
I was never active. Only, right after the Yom Kippur
War had started I went to the local hospital
in Princeton (New Jersey) to donate my blood,
for Arabs or Israelis, it didn't matter to me.
The hospital and blood stations were overflown
by Americans donating blood, with the same idea:
for both sides of the conflict; and I was told
to donate money instead. That was the only
time when I have donated money to Israel.
While there is nothing wrong with Zionism,
I am no Zionist. I was married to a non-Jewish
woman (now we have a more stable relation:
we are friends and exspouses), my children
are not considerded Jews by many ortodox Jews
(while they are by the Nazi types, and in this sense
they are Jewish). What Boobaki did when he called
me Zionist was just a a racist, antisemitic act.

The "Zionist" terminology has a long, antisemitic
tradition, going back to Tsars time, Stalinism,
communism, Fascism and today terrorists Anti-Jewish
politicians like Quadafi, Muslim fundamentalism etc.
The antisemitic orchestra has all kind of racists--
it has neoNazis and it has Boobakis, they cooperate,
they complement each other.


Wlod

Hans J=F8rgen Lassen wrote:
"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" wrote this and that
and much more, much too much, in fact, still failing
to prove his claim that Nick is an anti-Semite.

At the advice of my friends, I have stopped reading all of
the **** that Wlodzimierz Holsztynski excretes about me.
My friends know who I am, and they know that I am completely
different to the evil monster of Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's
paranoid fantasies.

I knew he was not up to the job.
Viel Geschrei, und wenig Wolle, as the Germans say.

Mimi ni askari Mdaichi. :-)

I asked for five anti-Semitic (or otherwise) racist
quotations from Nick. Wlod has not delivered one,
not one.

How could Wlodzimierz Holsztynski 'deliver' what
does not exist?

He has demonstrated, what we all knew quite wel,
that Nick is very critical of Israel.
That is not in itself anti-Semitism.

"The accusation of anti-Semitism has become a powerful tool
for silencing opposition to Israel's oppressive policies."
--Baruch Kimmerling (Politicide, p. 212)
(Baruch Kimmerling is an Israeli Jewish scholar.)

I never have attempted to conceal (though it would be quite
politically expedient to do so in the United States) that
I have criticised Israel. I have not been afraid to stand
up for what I believe about it.

Anti-Semitism means that you despise Jews not matter what
they do and not on account of what they do, but on account
of their being Jews.

Every one of my criticisms of Israel has been shared by at
least some intellectuals of Jewish heritage. Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski wrongly equates criticising Israel with being
anti-Semitic. When someone of Jewish heritage criticises
Israel, Holsztynski *might* be able to tolerate it; but
when I make the *same criticism*, or even *quote* a Jewish
critic making the *same criticism*, of Israel, Holsztynski
immediately denounces me as anti-Semitic.

By the way, how could Wlodzimierz Holsztynski be *certain*
that I and every member of my family *could not* have some
Jewish heritage? Sometimes in real life, some Jewish persons
have asked me whether I have some Jewish heritage because
they seem to believe that I know more about Jewish history
than they would expect most non-Jewish persons to know.

Nothing indicates that Nick despises Jews on account of
their being Jews.

My Jewish friends in real life would all laugh at Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski's accusations and regard with disdain his many
lies against me. Simon ('chapman billy'), who's of Jewish
heritage and knows me far better than Holsztynski ever could,
has told Wlodzimierz Holsztynski at least several times in
public here that he's completely wrong about me and should
immediately stop writing his insults and lies against me.
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski continues his insults and lies.

He does not like what the Israelis are doing to
the Palestinians (and neither do I).

Most people in the world (outside the United States) dislike
'what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians'.

"The incapacity of the United States to see Arabs as other
human beings is consistent with the ebbing of universalism
within American society."
--Emmanuel Todd (After the Empire, p. 118)

That is not anti-Semitism.

"The accusation of anti-Semitism has become a powerful tool
for silencing opposition to Israel's oppressive policies."
--Baruch Kimmerling (Politicide, p. 212)

I respect and admire some Israeli Jews, including such scholars
whom I have met in person as Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi of Haifa
University and the late Israel Shahak of the Hebrew University
of Jerusalem, who have strongly criticised Israel's oppression
of the Palestinians, if not also the nature of Zionism itself.

A few years ago, I received an E-mail from a good friend of
mine who's of German Jewish heritage (his grandfather had been
a rabbi in Germany) with the subject heading of 'Sad News'.
My friend let me know that Israel Shahak, whom we both admired,
had just died. Later, I attended a peace group meeting where
they were both Arabs and Jews (mostly Jews there). I had
the opportunity to speak, and I made a few remarks about
my memories of Israel Shahak. I can say that every Arab
at the meeting seemed to respect deeply what Israel Shahak,
the chairman of the Israeli League of Human and Civil Rights,
had done to attempt to help the Palestinians.

On the other hand, I regard with disdain those Israeli Jews
such as the late Baruch Goldstein (who murdered many helpless
Palestinians at prayer in a mosque) and the many people who
like to practise such racist chants as 'Death to the Arabs!'
Yes, the chant of 'Death to the Arabs!' has often been heard
in the streets of Israel. If one reads some Israeli newspapers
(I would recommend Haaretz), then one may find that they often
tend to give some more honestly critical coverage of Israel
than can be usually found in the 'mainsteam' US media.

Wlod has a very bad case. If he can not
do better than this, he would lose in court.

I have more important ways of allocating my time and money
than in pursuing a legal action against a pathological liar.

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has publicly accused IBM of having
'shamelessly cheated' in the Deep Blue - Kasparov match
without, of course, being able to prove his accusation.
Perhaps a lawyer for IBM may read what Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski has written and act accordingly.

--Nick

Rob wrote:
Good article on the subject.
Once it is read I believe that there will
be no more reasons to continue this thread
in a Chess newsgroup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism

Dear Rob, I know that you mean well.

But I have to say that you seem far too nice to understand
the pathological 'culture' of the Usenet chess newsgroups.
There have been many nice, well-meaning writers here who
have been driven away in disgust by the lying trolls here.
In particular, you seem not to understand the reality of
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's obsessive hatred (yes, other
readers have noticed that it has no rational basis) of me.

Rob, I deeply appreciate the friendship that you have shown
me, and I hope to write to you when I have some more time.

Best wishes,
Nick

Hans J=F8rgen Lassen wrote:
(snipped)
Wlod has a very bad case. If he can not do
better than this, he would lose in court.

For the record, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski also has
accused the Reuters news agency of anti-Semitism.

"=2E..especially by the anti-semitic (and anti-American)
Reuters with its extremely abusive, word manipulating
newspeech, ugh, ack."
--Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (20 November 2003, RGCM 'Middle East')

So IBM and Reuters are two other parties that have been the
targets of evidently unsupported accusations by Holsztynski.

--Nick

On 5 Apr 2005 17:48:02 -0700, "Nick"
wrote:

I respect and admire some Israeli Jews, including such scholars
whom I have met in person as Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi of Haifa
University and the late Israel Shahak of the Hebrew University
of Jerusalem, who have strongly criticised Israel's oppression
of the Palestinians, if not also the nature of Zionism itself.
....
On the other hand, I regard with disdain those Israeli Jews
such as the late Baruch Goldstein (who murdered many helpless
Palestinians at prayer in a mosque)

Of course, admiring a couple of scholars while disdaining a mass
murderer is not all that meritorious. Much like proudly proclaiming,
"I enjoy ice cream but oppose lung cancer".

and the many people who
like to practise such racist chants as 'Death to the Arabs!'
Yes, the chant of 'Death to the Arabs!' has often been heard
in the streets of Israel.

Does Nick regard with equal disdain the many Arabs and Palestinians
and Iranians who practice such racist chants as "Death to the Jews"?