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Old November 10th 05, 02:01 AM
Zilla
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I've started reading a book called Gary Kasparov teaches chess. In
the early part of the book he uses a notation I am not familiar with.
He uses both ( 6. cd - Nxd5) and (9. bc - Be7), I have an idea due to
the context, but wanted to make sure of the meaning of the cd & bc.

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Old November 10th 05, 02:12 AM
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In article ,
Zilla wrote:

I've started reading a book called Gary Kasparov teaches chess. In
the early part of the book he uses a notation I am not familiar with.
He uses both ( 6. cd - Nxd5) and (9. bc - Be7), I have an idea due to
the context, but wanted to make sure of the meaning of the cd & bc.



cd means cxd5, or whatever c-pawn can capture whatever is on
d-something. Either that, or he wants you to also buy a compact disc
that was made over 2000 years ago.

--Harold Buck


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Old November 10th 05, 03:22 AM
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Thanks for the information and humor. (Your explaination is exactly
what the book leads one to believe, but I wanted to be sure)

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:12:42 -0600, Harold Buck
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In article ,
Zilla wrote:

I've started reading a book called Gary Kasparov teaches chess. In
the early part of the book he uses a notation I am not familiar with.
He uses both ( 6. cd - Nxd5) and (9. bc - Be7), I have an idea due to
the context, but wanted to make sure of the meaning of the cd & bc.



cd means cxd5, or whatever c-pawn can capture whatever is on
d-something. Either that, or he wants you to also buy a compact disc
that was made over 2000 years ago.

--Harold Buck


"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson


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Old November 10th 05, 05:00 AM
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"Harold Buck" wrote in message
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In article ,
Zilla wrote:

I've started reading a book called Gary Kasparov teaches chess. In
the early part of the book he uses a notation I am not familiar with.
He uses both ( 6. cd - Nxd5) and (9. bc - Be7), I have an idea due to
the context, but wanted to make sure of the meaning of the cd & bc.



cd means cxd5, or whatever c-pawn can capture whatever is on
d-something. Either that, or he wants you to also buy a compact disc
that was made over 2000 years ago.

--Harold Buck


Isn't a notation like cd only used when it is a pawn being captured? cxd4
can mean both, but usually means a piece is being captured. I think.


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Old November 10th 05, 09:59 AM
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Fred wrote:
Isn't a notation like cd only used when it is a pawn being captured?
cxd4 can mean both, but usually means a piece is being captured. I
think.


Possibly but it's only a convention so one person's interpretation might
differ from another's. The `official notation', as sanctioned by FIDE
doesn't have the `cd'-style abbreviation -- see Section E of

http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE102

(I was surprised to see that they mandate adding ``ep'' for en passant
pawn captures, even though exd6 is already unambiguous for a white pawn on
e5 capturing the black d5-pawn en passant.)


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Old November 10th 05, 03:16 PM
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"David Richerby" wrote in message
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http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE102


(I was surprised to see that they mandate adding ``ep'' for en passant
pawn captures, even though exd6 is already unambiguous for a white pawn on
e5 capturing the black d5-pawn en passant.)


Yes - a good point.
However, I think on reflection that the "ep" notation is helpful as it:

minimises the likelihood of misreading a correct gamescore, (particularly
when either of a pair doubled pawns eg. on e4 and e5 could legally take on
d6 or d5); and

makes proof-reading of a gamescore easier and more reliable - especially
since any of the following are plausible in the doubled pawn case described
above:

d6 exd6
d5 exd6
d5 exd5

With some typefaces (and handwriting) it can be difficult to distinguish d5
from d6.

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Old November 11th 05, 09:20 AM
David Richerby
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Jim Hill wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
(I was surprised to see that they mandate adding ``ep'' for en passant
pawn captures, even though exd6 is already unambiguous for a white pawn on
e5 capturing the black d5-pawn en passant.)


Yes - a good point.
However, I think on reflection that the "ep" notation is helpful as it:

minimises the likelihood of misreading a correct gamescore
makes proof-reading of a gamescore easier and more reliable


True. Redundancy is always useful.


With some typefaces (and handwriting) it can be difficult to distinguish
d5 from d6.


I usually find the problem is in distinguishing c and e, especially in
boldface. In fact, I have one book (can't remember which, I'm afraid),
which has obviously been retyped from a source with such a font difficulty
as the font in this book is pretty clear but there are about two c/e
transcriptions per page.


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