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Sam Sloan wrote (13:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC))
(at Wikipedia) and here (Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:23:56 GMT): Then, you [Howcheng] write that I was recruiting "meatpuppets". What is your source for that statement? _ On 08:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC), Howcheng had written _ "Mr Sloan, please read WP:SOCK#.22Meatpuppets.22. In the case of Tom Dorsch, you clearly posted a message recruiting people to come and 'vote to keep'" _ and provided a link to this note: VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com !newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fj serv.net!newspeer1.asbnva01.us.to.verio.net!129.25 0.35.102.MISMATCH!newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.n et.POSTED!8b18be56!not-for-mail From: (Sam Sloan) Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt. chess Subject: Tom Dorsch Wikipedia Controversy Organization: Ishi Press Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 14 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:52:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255 X-Complaints-To: X-Trace: newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net 1135057931 68.199.110.255 (Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:52:11 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:52:11 GMT _ It would be most helpful if anybody here went to the Wikipedia site and added a paragraph or two or even a sentence about Tom Dorsch. _ Also, please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch and vote to keep. Right now the same three prople are over and over again demanding that the article be deleted. One person even said that Dorsch being treasurer of the USCF was comparable to being the treasurer of a bowling league. _ You may not agree with my biography, but I think you will agree that Dorsch is worthy of a biography. _ Sam Sloan AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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"Keep deleted for all of the reasons above." - Zoe| (21:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)) |
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Sam Sloan wrote (13:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC))
(at Wikipedia) and here (Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:23:56 GMT): Rook_wave was over on the chess newsgroup rec.games.chess.politics recruiting people to vote to delete. Under the rules, as soon as he made the RFD he is supposed to stay out of it and not even vote. Instead, he voted six times and any time anybody voted to keep, he challenged or attacked him, either here or over on rec.games.chess.politics _ How do you know the votes to keep or delete were my "meatpuppets" or his "sockpuppets"? What you fail to understand is that all of us chess players know each other. It is very unlikely that some completely unknown person is going to come in and post. _ "Your statement I had voted six times is simply wrong. I already pointed this out to you in the rec.games.chess.misc. I made several comments, but I voted exactly once. Still you insist on repeating this obvious misrepresentation of the facts, in the newsgroups and now here. And that I were at the newsgroup recruiting people is an open and blatant lie. Your behaviour is a shame. And as a side remark: that all chess players know each other is simply ridiculous. There are millions of chess players world wide. You don't know me, I don't know you and I don't feel the wish to change this." - Rook wave (22:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)) |
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"The reason I consider this just to be a dispute between me and User:Howcheng is that every time any of my critics see something by me that they do not like, they go to User:Howcheng. The request to delete the Tom Dorsch article was made by User:Rook wave whose postings to Wikipedia are ALL delitions of content from my articles. User:Rook wave has posted 41 times to Wikipedia and every one of these postings removed content that I wrote. However, Rook wave is not an administrator, so he went to Howcheng and got him to blank the page. _ It was only User:Howcheng who called Randy Bauer and Louis Blair my "meatpuppets". This is clearly a personal attack plus User:Howcheng should have first done an internet search whereby he would have found that Randy Bauer had run against me for election." - Sam Sloan (12:48, 4 March 2006 (UTC)) _ "They go to Howcheng because Howcheng is an admin who knows your history, so it saves time in investigations. The same happens with me and certain problem editors. This does not indicate a personalisation of any dispute other than by you." - Just zis Guy you know? (09:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)) _ "It has been pointed out that User:Howcheng had no prior knowledge of me and deleted the article and its history after only a few minutes thought and based on the berlief that my well known opponents were my 'meatpuppets'. At least three other administrators had looked at the Tom Dorsch biography and none had deleted it. I have posted more than 100 biographies on Wikipedia and this is the only one that has been deleted. If User: Howcheng were any sort of man, he would admit his mistake, reinstate the article and let somebody else pass on it." - Sam Sloan (11:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)) _ "If you are unhappy with the deletion decision, the correct procedure is to take it to a Wikipedia: Deletion review, as I mentioned above. What is not an acceptable response is to post personal attacks against the admin who made that decision, like your comment above. Regards," - MartinRe (12:16, 5 March 2006 (UTC)) _ "Howcheng did not delete it on the basis of thought or belief in any quantity or nature, Howcheng deleted it because the AfD ended in clear consensus for deletion. Which, given the content, is hardly a surprise." - Just zis Guy you know? (13:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)) |
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"Keep deleted'. I have read the article, and I think that Mr. Dorsch's high positions in the United States Chess Federation might well be notable (so do not protect against recreation). But the article contains a number of unflattering claims about this person, and there are no sources to back them up. The Seigenthaler case has shown that we need to be very cautious with articles on living people." - Sjakkalle (Check!) (10:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)) |
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Tom Dorsch deletion endorsed. 23:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
_ *Strongly '''endorse closure''', keep deleted and salt the earth. - Just zis Guy you know? 09:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC) - *'''Keep deleted''' I don't think we need to salt the earth on this one yet. --Deathphoenix 14:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC) - *'''Keep deleted'''. Phr 20:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC) - *'''Keep Deleted''' I don't think the "earth should be salted" MartinRe 13:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC) - * '''Endorse closure'''. there is not yet evidence to justify protection as a deletedpage. Rossami 21:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC) - *'''Keep deleted''' Jareth|babelfish 14:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC) - *'''Keep deleted''' Zoe 21:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC) - *''Keep deleted'''. do not protect against recreation Sjakkalle 10:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC) |
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