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Louis Blair wrote:
Frank Lee wrote (Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:53:38 GMT): Was this ever verified by anyone? _ "Sam Sloan" Authors Banned or Blacklisted by USCF Sales _ * Anatoly Karpov * Ron Henley * Raymond Keene * Eric Schiller * Larry Parr * Don Schultz * Sam Sloan _ The Wikipedia verdict: _ "If Sam Sloan is basing his contribution of a blacklist based on conversations (newsgroup or otherwise), emails, or his own suspicions that such a blacklist exists, that is by definition original research and is not allowed. However, if he were to cite reliable sources that declare its existence, then its mention may be included. This is non-negotiable. If Sam Sloan continues his attempts to include this in the article against the consensus formed by other editors on this page, I will reluctantly have to impose a block." - howcheng (06:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life _ That was the statement made by non-chess player Howard Cheng who had just been made a Wikipedia administrator on December 27, 2005 just seven days before he made the above stupid posting. He made the above stupid statement in response to a complaint to Wikipedia by none other than Louis Blair here. Please note than in your list below, you only list DVDs produced within the last year, except for one very recently published book. Can you provide any examples of previously published books by Keene, Schiller or any of the other blacklisted authors which were published and carried before the blacklisting charge was made? As I have said before, all I want is for Chess Cafe to pay us the money they owe us. As long as they pay the $185,000 they owe, they can blacklist anybody they want. Sam Sloan |
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Sam Sloan wrote (10 Jun 2006 13:42:56 -0700):
[USCF Sales sells] exactly one book by Keene, just so they can claim that they are not blacklisting him, but Keene has written more than one hundred chess books. _ Go to Barnes and Noble and you will see an entire shelf of books by Keene and Schiller which you cannot get from Chess Cafe. _ I wrote (10 Jun 2006 23:00:07 -0700): Apart from items in their "MASSIVELY REDUCED" section, Chess4Less sells two books by GM Keene. _ My own experience does not confirm [what Sam Sloan writes about Barnes and Noble]. I suggest personal investigation to those who are interested. In any event, _ "It would be legitimate to ask how closely sales at B&N might map to potential sales at Chess Cafe" - Mike Murray (Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:52:07 -0700) _ _ Aron Nimzowitsch: A Reappraisal by Keene _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=184 _ How to Play Like Kasparov & Short (DVD) by Keene _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1967 _ Sam Sloan wrote (11 Jun 2006 01:31:21 -0700): Right you are! Aron Nimzowitsch: A Reappraisal by Keene is the one and only book by Keene that Chess Cafe sells, unless they have added another book recently. _ How do you explain the fact that Keene has written more than 100 chess books and is also the chess columnist for the Times of London, and yet Chess Cafe only sells one book by Keene? _ Does it have something to do with the fact that Taylor Kingston attacks Keene all the time? _ What reason is there to believe that the explanation of uscfsales policy is very different from the explanation of chess4less policy? |
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Frank Lee wrote (Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:53:38 GMT):
Was this ever verified by anyone? _ "Sam Sloan" Authors Banned or Blacklisted by USCF Sales _ * Anatoly Karpov * Ron Henley * Raymond Keene * Eric Schiller * Larry Parr * Don Schultz * Sam Sloan _ I wrote (10 Jun 2006 22:36:37 -0700): The Wikipedia verdict: _ "If Sam Sloan is basing his contribution of a blacklist based on conversations (newsgroup or otherwise), emails, or his own suspicions that such a blacklist exists, that is by definition original research and is not allowed. However, if he were to cite reliable sources that declare its existence, then its mention may be included. This is non-negotiable. If Sam Sloan continues his attempts to include this in the article against the consensus formed by other editors on this page, I will reluctantly have to impose a block." - howcheng (06:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life _ _ _ Best Games Collection: GM Karpov, Vol. 1 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1989 _ Best Games Collection: GM Karpov, Vol. 2 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1990 _ Best Games Collection: GM Karpov, Vol. 4 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1992 _ Bobby Fischer Collection: Karpov on Fischer Vol. 1 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1968 _ Bobby Fischer Collection: Karpov on Fischer Vol. 2 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1969 _ Bobby Fischer Collection: Karpov on Fischer Vol. 3 (DVD) by Karpov _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1970 _ The Russian School: Karpov's Endgame Essentials (DVD) Presented by Karpov & Dzindzichashvili _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2020 _ The Russian School: Karpov's Middlegame Strategies (DVD) Presented by Karpov & Dzindzichashvili _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2021 _ The Russian School: Karpov's Opening Fundamentals (DVD) Presented by Karpov & Roman Dzindzichashvili _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2022 _ Otsenka pozitsii i plan by Karpov & Matsukevich _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=781 _ Best Games Collection: Mr. Six-Time, Vol. 1 (DVD) GM Walter Browne, with the assistance of GM Ron Henley, discusses his best games from some of the six US Championships that he has won. _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1993 _ Best Games Collection: Mr. Six-Time, Vol. 2 (DVD) GM Walter Browne, with the assistance of GM Ron Henley, discusses his best games from some of the six US Championships that he has won. _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1994 _ GM Repertoire Series: Play the Sicilian!, Volume 1 (DVD) GM Walter Browne, with the assistance of GM Ron Henley, discusses the various methods that White has at his disposal to avoid the full-blooded confrontation of the Najdorf. _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2018 _ GM Repertoire Series: Play the Sicilian, Volume 2 (DVD) GM Walter Browne, with the assistance of GM Ron Henley, discusses the Sicilian Najdorf. _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2019 _ Women Chess Stars: American Chess Princess (DVD) Irina Krush, Elina Groberman, Laura Ross & Shirley Ben-Dak present some of their best games from the 1997 FIDE World Youth Championships held in Cannes, France with the assistance of their coach - GM Ron Henley. _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=2024 _ Aron Nimzowitsch: A Reappraisal by Keene _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=184 _ How to Play Like Kasparov & Short (DVD) by Keene _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1967 _ One-move Checkmates by Schiller _ http://uscfsales.com/item.asp?PID=1758 _ Sam Sloan wrote (11 Jun 2006 01:42:19 -0700): [That Wikipedia statement was] made by non-chess player Howard Cheng who had just been made a Wikipedia administrator on December 27, 2005 just seven days before he made the above stupid posting. _ "I need an order of protection telling Howcheng to stay from my articles until he learns something about chess." - Sam Sloan (03:03, 4 March 2006 (UTC)) _ Wikipedia administrators did not agree to this. _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=43215421 _ Sam Sloan wrote (11 Jun 2006 01:42:19 -0700): [Howard Cheng] made the above stupid statement in response to a complaint to Wikipedia by none other than Louis Blair here. _ There were objections to the blacklist claim from a number of individuals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life _ Sam Sloan wrote (11 Jun 2006 01:42:19 -0700): Please note than in your list below, you only list DVDs produced within the last year, except for one very recently published book. _ There are three books in the list I posted. _ Sam Sloan wrote (11 Jun 2006 01:42:19 -0700): Can you provide any examples of previously published books by Keene, Schiller or any of the other blacklisted authors which were published and carried before the blacklisting charge was made? _ I am writing about the present. If Sam Sloan wants to make claims about the past, it is up to him to document them (with specific dates for specific events). |
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Neil Brennen wrote (11 Jun 2006 17:50:35 -0700):
Has Wikipedia banned Sloan yet? _ These are the events that I observed at Wikipedia: _ "it is easy to veryify that there is auch a blacklist. ..." - Sam Sloan (19:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC)) _ "If Sam Sloan is basing his contribution of a blacklist based on conversations (newsgroup or otherwise), emails, or his own suspicions that such a blacklist exists, that is by definition original research and is not allowed. However, if he were to cite reliable sources that declare its existence, then its mention may be included. This is non-negotiable. If Sam Sloan continues his attempts to include this in the article against the consensus formed by other editors on this page, I will reluctantly have to impose a block." - howcheng (06:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chess_Life _ _ "I do object when [Ralph Callenberg], JoanneB and Janeth, none of whom know anything about chess, try to delete the entire article." - Sam Sloan (16:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)) _ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Dorsch (The result of the debate was delete. - howcheng 20:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch _ _ "I am having a dispute with Howcheng and I request the Arbitration Committee to resolve it." - Sam Sloan _ Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration Sam Sloan against Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch (soundly rejected - Dmcdevit 06:23, 11 February 2006) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=39171201 _ _ "The act by Howcheng to delete my Tom Dorsch article was clearly wrong. ... I need an order of protection telling Howcheng to stay from my articles until he learns something about chess." - Sam Sloan (03:03, 4 March 2006 (UTC)) _ Wikipedia eletion review/Tom Dorsch(deletion endorsed - Splash 23:53, 10 March 2006) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=43215421 _ _ "the arbitration committee should consider this dispute [with Paul Rubin]." - Sam Sloan (10:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)) _ Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration [Sam Sloan vs. Paul Rubin] (rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 March 2006) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=45399095 _ _ "[Ralf Callenberg] ... should not be allowed to delete or modify my postings." - Sam Sloan (01:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)) _ Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration [Sam Sloan vs. Ralf Callenberg] (rejected - Sam Korn 11:11, 25 March 2006) _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=45399095 _ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...User:Sam_Sloan _ _ I have not been following events at Wikipedia very much since then. Perhaps Paul Rubin and/or Ralf Callenberg can give us an update. _ _ "I am requesting that, if possible and legally allowed, your chess federation bring a proceeding to censure or reprimand or otherwise punish Herr Callenberg." - Sam Sloan (Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:54:46 GMT) _ "Re Wikipedia: Don't take Sam Sloan's goofy complaint seriously." - jr (16 Apr 2006 11:47:22 -0700) |
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