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Biography of Al Lawrence by Sam Sloan



 
 
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Old December 27th 05, 01:28 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:30:34 GMT):

As far as I can see Sam Sloan is open to resonable
comment in adjusting his text - but not all of his
critics can even admit it when they are wrong.


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Does Sam Sloan still claim that Karpov belongs on
a "List of Authors Banned or Blacklisted" by USCF
Sales?

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Old December 27th 05, 01:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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I'm sorry Louis. I make things up all the time. Everything I wrote is a
bunch of crap.

Sam Sloan

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Old December 27th 05, 02:53 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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On 26 Dec 2005 09:48:35 -0800, "Taylor Kingston"
wrote:


Sam Sloan wrote:
Al Lawrence will certainly be happy to learn that Sam Sloan is the
person who has written his biography.


Given the low level of factual accuracy, I would not be too sure of
that. I post a few corrections below.

Al Lawrence
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Al Lawrence (b. in Nebraska) is a chess expert and a chess politician.


Lawrence was born in Illinois, not Nebraska. It seems rather a
semantic stretch to call him a "chess politician," since he has never
run for nor held any elected USCF office.

Don Schultz, who wanted to fire Lawrence,


By what authority could Schultz have done this?

By majority rule. Fan Adams strongly wanted to fire Lawrence. So did
Dorsch. That means only one move vote was needed. Rachel Lieberman
agreed to provide the fourth vote because she did not like what
Lawrence had done with respect to the "Majority Report".


Lawrence immediately resigned as Executive
Director and took the money, hours before he was about to be fired.


Same question. Does Schultz himself claim he could have fired
Lawrence?


Sure, as long as Dorsch, Adams and Lieberman agreed to it.

Lawrence subsequently went to work for Excaliber at the World Chess
Hall of Fame in Miami, and continues there to this day.


The correct spelling is Excalibur.

Thank you.

Sam Sloan
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Old December 27th 05, 12:43 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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"Louis Blair" wrote in message
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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:30:34 GMT):

As far as I can see Sam Sloan is open to resonable
comment in adjusting his text - but not all of his
critics can even admit it when they are wrong.


_
Does Sam Sloan still claim that Karpov belongs on
a "List of Authors Banned or Blacklisted" by USCF
Sales?


If there is any point at all to this correspondence, it will be that if Sam
Sloan made a risible claim he is capable of correcting it - I see he has
demonstrated this half a dozen times in the past week.

What other people here seem to be indulging in is a personality based
discussion on /who/ should write anything. If you wanted to correct Sam,
Louis, why not send him your own information to increment what he already
said?

Some other people here are not capable of admitting they are
'under-researched' without 50 posts of acrimonious resentment of the fact
being aired, even though they commit greater gaffes [by omission] than does
Sloan in commission.

These same people seem to be Sloan's main critics.

zzzzz

Phil Innes



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Old December 27th 05, 01:24 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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Chess One wrote:
?? Al responded on a moderated newsgroup directly to Sam - you have to
write your name to your posts - there are interesting discussions !!


I did not know that. I'd be interested to read this group. Can you
supply the URL?

not talking about you or to you taylor.


With Phil, one never knows about what or to whom.

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Old December 27th 05, 09:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:30:34 GMT):
As far as I can see Sam Sloan is open to resonable
comment in adjusting his text - but not all of his
critics can even admit it when they are wrong.

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I wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:43:17 GMT):
Does Sam Sloan still claim that Karpov belongs on
a "List of Authors Banned or Blacklisted" by USCF
Sales?


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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:43:17 GMT):

If there is any point at all to this correspondence, it
will be that if Sam Sloan made a risible claim he is
capable of correcting it - I see he has demonstrated
this half a dozen times in the past week.


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Can Phil Innes quote a Sam Sloan answer to my
question about Karpov?

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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:43:17 GMT):

If you wanted to correct Sam, Louis, why not send
him your own information to increment what he
already said?


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Because public attacks should be accompanied
by public identification of the evidence (or public
admission of the inability to produce such evidence).
At the moment, I do not even know if Sam Sloan
still stands by his claim about Karpov. If he
doesn't, he should admit it and apologize. If
he does, he should say so and identify his
evidence.

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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:43:17 GMT):

Some other people here are not capable of admitting
they are 'under-researched' without 50 posts of
acrimonious resentment of the fact being aired,
even though they commit greater gaffes [by
omission] than does Sloan in commission.


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Some people like to toss out vague charges rather
than discuss certain specific subjects.
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"Does Phil Innes have any comment on
Sam Sloan's inclusion of Karpov in a
claimed 'List of Authors Banned or
Blacklisted' by USCF Sales?" - Louis
Blair (23 Dec 2005 15:14:22 -0800)

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Old December 28th 05, 04:46 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Louis Blair knows nothing about Al Lawrence.

Sam Sloan

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Old December 28th 05, 04:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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wrote (27 Dec 2005 20:46:16 -0800):

Louis Blair knows nothing about Al Lawrence.


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Can
identify something
incorrect that I have written about Al Lawrence?

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Old December 28th 05, 10:37 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Louis Blair wrote:
wrote (27 Dec 2005 20:46:16 -0800):
Louis Blair knows nothing about Al Lawrence.


Can
identify something incorrect that I have written
about Al Lawrence?


is just trolling. If people stopped following up to his
posts, he'd get bored and go away.


Dave.

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Old December 28th 05, 03:15 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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Chess One wrote:
Chess One wrote:
Taylor makes more objections than Al does himself

?? Al responded on a moderated newsgroup directly to Sam - you have to
write your name to your posts - there are interesting discussions !!


Chess One wrote:
You and brennan have your standards, I have mine! For other people actually
interested in these bio-histories here is what Frank wrote directly to Sam:-
//Phil Innes


Um, Phil -- are you actually paying attention here? We are not
discussing Frank Brady. As I have made quite clear, my question
concerns Al Lawrence. I quote your earlier claims about Lawrence,
posted here this week:

"Taylor makes more objections than Al does himself "
"Al responded on a moderated newsgroup directly to Sam"

Can you please verify these claims? You need merely supply the
address of the newsgroup where you say Lawrence posted his response.

 




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