Adrian Daly ] has apparently harvested
information from a posting to a chessnewsgroup, and has consequently
sent stock-market spam to an e-mail account that I don't make publicly
known, because it is an account for my employment. I discovered this
today when checking my office e-mails before working hours.

David Ames.

David Ames wrote:
Adrian Daly ] has apparently harvested
information from a posting to a chessnewsgroup, and has consequently
sent stock-market spam to an e-mail account that I don't make publicly
known, because it is an account for my employment. I discovered this
today when checking my office e-mails before working hours.

I'm confused. If you haven't made this address public, how can anyone
have harvested it from a chess newsgroup? Posting an E-mail address
to a newsgroup or web page is most definitely `making it publicly
known'.

Oh, and the answer to your question would appear to be `A spammer'.


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David Richerby wrote:
David Ames wrote:
Adrian Daly ] has apparently harvested
information from a posting to a chessnewsgroup, and has consequently
sent stock-market spam to an e-mail account that I don't make publicly
known, because it is an account for my employment. I discovered this
today when checking my office e-mails before working hours.

I'm confused. If you haven't made this address public, how can anyone
have harvested it from a chess newsgroup? Posting an E-mail address
to a newsgroup or web page is most definitely `making it publicly
known'.


Yes, and I am puzzled for the same reason. It would seem that, because
I post from an office computer and connect through a server 500 miles
away, the offender directs his spam to the server's IP address and
somehow gets it to my e-mail account there.

Oh, and the answer to your question would appear to be `A spammer'.

Cela se voit.

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CeeBee wrote:
"David Ames" wrote in rec.games.chess.misc:

Adrian Daly ] has apparently harvested
information from a posting to a chessnewsgroup, and has consequently
sent stock-market spam to an e-mail account that I don't make publicly
known, because it is an account for my employment. I discovered this
today when checking my office e-mails before working hours.

Who cares who Adrian Daly is? We all know what Adrian Daly is.

I am seeking information about Adrian Daly and his activities. He uses
a valid domain name 0-0-0chackmate.com indicating some kind of chess
association. Your dismissive remark is duly noted.

Adrian Daly is a spammer, and - as any spammer - sends out millions of spam
mails every day. He starts with: , ,
and eventualy .
If you work at DingDongWorks he'll send a thousand mails to
, or whatever.

My external ID contains more than one non-alphabetic character. There
is no reasonable way that Adrian Daly can guess this particular
external ID. The method you describe is well known.

He uses thousands of different names and one time e-mail addresses, ranging
from to

Adrian Daly can't harvest your address from chess newsgroups if you don't
make that address publicly known in chess newsgroups. If you don't make it
publicly known, Adrian Daly can't harvest it from where it isn't.

On information and belief (see my response to David Richerby) I think
otherwise.

Adrian Daly is a spammer, not a clairvoyant.

Welcome to Internet.

Thanks anyway, but I've been rummaging around the Internet for a few
years now.

David Ames

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CeeBee wrote:

This is a chess newsgroup.
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Do you know, does anyone know, anything about a supposed CHESSPLAYER
Adrian Daly? That's what I'm asking. And I find your annoyance to be
annoying.

David Ames

David Ames wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
I'm confused. If you haven't made this address public, how can anyone
have harvested it from a chess newsgroup?

Yes, and I am puzzled for the same reason. It would seem that, because
I post from an office computer and connect through a server 500 miles
away, the offender directs his spam to the server's IP address and
somehow gets it to my e-mail account there.

That is not how E-mail works. If you're sure you've never published
the E-mail address in question, there are three options, in roughly
decreasing order of likelihood.

1) You're the victim of a dictionary attack. Spammers guess plausible
E-mail addresses so is likely to get spam even
if he has never published the address. A friend who runs the mail
server of a large UK university says they get about 100,000 of these
messages every day, even after filtering out the most obvious spam.

2) You gave the E-mail address to a company for genuine reasons and
they sold it, either directly to the spammer or to somebody who
sold it to them.

3) You're mistaken. Perhaps you posted to a mailing list from that
address and it was archived on the web or something like that.


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CeeBee wrote:
David Ames wrote in rec.games.chess.misc:
And I find your annoyance to be annoying.

I do what I can, thanks. Now scram with your spam.

David isn't spamming because he isn't posting in bulk. Spam does not
mean `mail/news posts that I don't like'.


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CeeBee wrote:
David Richerby wrote in
rec.games.chess.misc:

David isn't spamming because he isn't posting in bulk. Spam does not
mean `mail/news posts that I don't like'.

Good. You call his off topic junk anything your textbook allows.

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You are letting your heart run away with your head. *I* was the one
who set the topic: "Who is ..." YOU went off-topic immediately by
giving the answer to the question "What is ..." You don't add to the
discussion. You only rant and insult. You keep doing it. This
thread would have amounted to nothing at all if you would have just
shut up.

I suggest looking at the title of this newsgroup. It stands for
Recreation. Games. Chess.MISCELLANEOUS. It is exactly the right place
for a question about a chessplayer which does not concern politics,
analysis, or computers

Have a nice day, or else -- that is, or else don't. The choice is
yours.

David Ames

David Ames wrote:
I suggest looking at the title of this newsgroup. It stands for
Recreation. Games. Chess.MISCELLANEOUS. It is exactly the right place
for a question about a chessplayer which does not concern politics,
analysis, or computers


But, as we've said, there's a vanishingly small probability that the
guy even exists, let alone plays chess. Still, it seems to me to have
been a legitimate question and it's one small thread so it doesn't
matter all that much that it's off-topic.

And, CeeBee, get a grip. If it wasn't for your ranting about how
off-topic this all is, the thread would be only a third the size. You
know that proverb about three fingers pointing back at yourself when
you point at somebody? Go think about it.


Dave.

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