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Old February 26th 06, 06:32 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.

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Old February 26th 06, 03:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.


That`s correct. He doesn`t play there.


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Old February 27th 06, 12:53 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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EZoto wrote:
The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.


So Topalov's having a bad week. Yawn. I don't see you complaining
that Bacrot is performing 140 points below his rating...


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Old February 28th 06, 01:21 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On 27 Feb 2006 12:53:58 +0000 (GMT), David Richerby
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EZoto wrote:
The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.


So Topalov's having a bad week. Yawn. I don't see you complaining
that Bacrot is performing 140 points below his rating...


Bacrot doesn't have a big mouth. By the way, a lot of people seem
irritated. Are we all gambling on this. Shame on you all.

EZoto

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Old February 28th 06, 08:31 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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EZoto wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
EZoto wrote:
The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.


So Topalov's having a bad week. Yawn. I don't see you complaining
that Bacrot is performing 140 points below his rating...


Bacrot doesn't have a big mouth.


And Topalov does?


By the way, a lot of people seem irritated.


Who?


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Old February 28th 06, 09:40 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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The mouth that roared has no teeth. Kramnik must be terrified.

So Topalov's having a bad week. Yawn. I don't see you complaining
that Bacrot is performing 140 points below his rating...


Bacrot doesn't have a big mouth.


And Topalov does?


Indeed Topalov is a modest person compared to Kramnik who claims to be a WCC
although he is not a legal one.



By the way, a lot of people seem irritated.


Who?


I wonder why EZoto is so irritated ? I suppose it`s because of the
inevitable process of aging.


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Old February 28th 06, 09:59 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Jerzy wrote:

Indeed Topalov is a modest person compared to Kramnik who claims to be a WCC
although he is not a legal one.


What do you understand under "legal"?

Greetings,
Ralf
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Old February 28th 06, 10:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Indeed Topalov is a modest person compared to Kramnik who claims to be a
WCC
although he is not a legal one.


What do you understand under "legal"?


The legal challenger to Kasparov was Shirov who defeated Kramnik in a
qualifying match.


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Old February 28th 06, 11:19 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Jerzy wrote:
[...] Kramnik [...] claims to be a WCC
although he is not a legal one.


What do you understand under "legal"?


Kramnik still is the legal world champion,
because he won a championship match
againist the then World Champion Kasparov.

The legal challenger to Kasparov was Shirov
who defeated Kramnik in a qualifying match.


You're really saying that Kramnik was
an illegal challenger. However, Kasparov
owned the title, he asked Kramnik to
play the match, so Kramnik still was a legal
challenger.

One may wonder if he was if he deserved
such a break. Definitely not. He got super
lucky, like nobody else, to play a championship
match without beating other challengers in a
face to face competition against them.

However one may argue that he was
deserving the chance despite some
counter-indications. Indeed, he was the second
rated chessplayer for a longer time than
anybody else during those years (I think
that I am right, but at least I am not too much off).

Also, Kramnik justified the championship
match by winning it! He's the only player
who won a match against Kasparov.
Moreover, I think that nobody else had a chance,
that Kasparov would beat everybody else,
especially Shirov.

The problem is not about the legality.
The sad state of affairs was that Kramnik
was not a true world champion. He never
dominated Anand. He lost several matches,
actually all of them but against Kasparov.

He was very passive.

He was not gracious toward Kasparov,
who always was nice to Kramnik. And
first of all, Kramnik quite stupidly has
avoided the rematch. He didn't have
much to lose. He would make history by
agreeing to the rematch (not to mention $$).
Chessplayers would think well of Kramnik
forever if he played the rematch. Somehow,
the chessplayers like Kramnik and Topalov
don't learn the history lessons, they are
too preoccupied with the short term goals.

I am not hard on Kramnik for his last couple
of years. His health clearly suffers, so I am
sorry for him.

With the single exception of Kasparov,
Kramnik is still perhaps the most talented
chessplayer--well, Anand was not bad either,
except for missing the fighting qualities.
If the USSR didn't collapse already when
Kramnik was still young, Kramnik would be
serious about chess, he would be a chess
monster. Instead, our good looking youngster
went to play in the German chess league,
where he enjoyed life more intensively than
chess. Perhaps he made a good trade-off,
while it was not good for his chess or for the
Chess in general.

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Old February 28th 06, 12:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Jerzy wrote:
[...] Kramnik [...] claims to be a WCC
although he is not a legal one.

What do you understand under "legal"?


Kramnik still is the legal world champion,
because he won a championship match
againist the then World Champion Kasparov.

The legal challenger to Kasparov was Shirov
who defeated Kramnik in a qualifying match.


You're really saying that Kramnik was
an illegal challenger. However, Kasparov
owned the title, he asked Kramnik to
play the match, so Kramnik still was a legal
challenger.



Thus Kasparov turned back to pre-FIDE times when WCC chose their
challengers. Remember why Rubinstein did not play for a WCC title ?


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Regards


 




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