Have all of Fischer's conditions for the 1975 match v Karpov been published?
I can't seem to find them online - does anyone here have them?

--
Work like the ponies in coalmines.
Dance like the teardrop explodes.
Love like you're Frank in Blue Velvet.
Sing as though your little throat would burst.

Alan OBrien wrote:
Have all of Fischer's conditions for the 1975 match v Karpov been published?
I can't seem to find them online - does anyone here have them?

I believe I have all the relevant Chess Life & Reviews from that
time, and that they contain the information, but I'd rather not write
up the whole thing here. What specifically are you looking for?

"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
ups.com...

Alan OBrien wrote:
Have all of Fischer's conditions for the 1975 match v Karpov been
published?
I can't seem to find them online - does anyone here have them?

I believe I have all the relevant Chess Life & Reviews from that
time, and that they contain the information, but I'd rather not write
up the whole thing here. What specifically are you looking for?

I am just interested - I don't want to put anyone out.
I have read many various things about the conditions... The number of them
seems to change. Was it 63, 120 or over 400?
I read on a Russian site that Fischer demanded a 1950s car to be driven
around in. That unlikely assertion caused my interest.
Presumably most of them are quite straightforward - about lighting and
noise. It's the unusual ones I'd like to see.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:46:14 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

I am just interested - I don't want to put anyone out.
I have read many various things about the conditions... The number of them
seems to change. Was it 63, 120 or over 400?

This says that there were 179 demands, and they met all of them except
one: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconVall...78/fischer.htm
---
Replace you know what by j to email

That link brings up an article (or rather, a list of "facts")
containing numerous misrepresentations; this one, for example:


"In early 1974 Fischer issued a 14-page document with 179 demands
before he would play Karpov."


Now what sort of "fact" compiler implies that Fischer already "knew"
who was going to win the candidates' matches in early 1974? Fischer's
conditions probably never even mentioned Karpov by name; it could just
as easily have been VK.

The name "Karpov" has been inserted into this mess by the
propagandists/idiots. Fischer made the same type of "demands" for the
US Championship, fearing that he might stumble (as he did against
Mednis, for instance) and fail to win it *every time*.
For some reason, being the best was not good enough; Fischer wanted his
victory to be virtually guaranteed in advance.

There are many cases where BW demonstrated a clear bias in his
reporting of the "facts". And more than a few wherein he reveals that
he has been infected by the same dread disease which afflicts LP and
LE.


When Fischer was the challenger he thought the Champ should have no
advantage. When he became the Champ he thought the challenger should
have to win by two points. See if you can identify the significance of
this change of attitude.


PS: One more point: how many of Karpov's "conditions" were granted?
Rejected? Even considered? What psychological effect might this
disparity have on the players?
It seems to me almost as if Fischer were receiving outside help
(advice) from, say, the CIA, on how to gain an (unfair psychological)
advantage -- but then he didn't play.

Alan OBrien wrote:
"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
ups.com...

Alan OBrien wrote:
Have all of Fischer's conditions for the 1975 match v Karpov been
published?
I can't seem to find them online - does anyone here have them?

I believe I have all the relevant Chess Life & Reviews from that
time, and that they contain the information, but I'd rather not write
up the whole thing here. What specifically are you looking for?

I am just interested - I don't want to put anyone out.
I have read many various things about the conditions... The number of them
seems to change. Was it 63, 120 or over 400?
I read on a Russian site that Fischer demanded a 1950s car to be driven
around in. That unlikely assertion caused my interest.
Presumably most of them are quite straightforward - about lighting and
noise. It's the unusual ones I'd like to see.

Sorry, I don't think those are reported. IIRC, CL&R reported just the
chess-related conditions: the 10-win requirement, the 9-9 clause,
unlimited duration and such. Nothing about cars or dozens of other
extraneous provisos.

"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:46:14 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

I am just interested - I don't want to put anyone out.
I have read many various things about the conditions... The number of them
seems to change. Was it 63, 120 or over 400?

This says that there were 179 demands, and they met all of them except
one: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconVall...78/fischer.htm

As soon as I saw it was by Bill Wall I closed the window.

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:48:37 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

As soon as I saw it was by Bill Wall I closed the window.

OK, I just found it in a google search. I'm not familiar with Bill
Wall, so I take it that he is unreliable, right?
---
Replace you know what by j to email

Jud McCranie wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:48:37 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

As soon as I saw it was by Bill Wall I closed the window.

OK, I just found it in a google search. I'm not familiar with Bill
Wall, so I take it that he is unreliable, right?

Some of Mr. Wall's work was mentioned by Edward Winter in an essay
titled "A question of credibility," an examination of web-sites dealing
with chess history. It originally appeared at www.chesscafe.com in
1997, and was anthologized in "Kings, Commoners and Knaves" (Russell
Enterprises, 1999). I cannot provide an internet link; it appears the
article is not included in Winter's archives at www.chesshistory.com.
Among other problems, Winter reports a large number of errors in
Wall's recap of Capablanca's career at www.chesschampions.com. Similar
errors are found in his treatment of Alekhine. One example on which
Winter heaps particular scorn:

"Among Mr. Wall's other effluence is a pitiful feature on 'eccentric
chessplayers' (www.txdirect.net/users/wall/chess.htm). A couple of
sentences about Alekhine will give the flavor:
'In a few tournaments he was found in a field drunk. He would urinate
on the floor in other events.'
"For these dainty tidings no documentary source is given, of course,
for the Walls of the world expect us to take on trust their attacks on
the chosen prey of the day ... Poach from a dubious source some suspect
chitchat about a deceased master and whisk it up from an alleged
one-off incident into a categorical denunciation of repeated
misconduct. Yes, being a chess journalist is that easy."

I don't know if any of the sites mentioned are still up. If so, it
would be interesting to check if any corrections have been made.