"The Historian" wrote in message
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Larry Tapper wrote:

I must confess I'm beginning to suspect that when you wrote you were
"nearly an IM", you meant that you once stood close enough to an IM to
smell the vodka on his breath.

Wonderful, Larry! I couldn't have done better myself.

True!!

Why don't Americans have any irony? I mean, how many messages are NOT based
on envy - whether its chess playing or publishing?

Phil Innes

Chess One wrote:
"The Historian" wrote in message
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Larry Tapper wrote:

I must confess I'm beginning to suspect that when you wrote you were
"nearly an IM", you meant that you once stood close enough to an IM to
smell the vodka on his breath.

Wonderful, Larry! I couldn't have done better myself.

True!!


Why don't Americans have any irony? I mean, how many messages are NOT based
on envy - whether its chess playing or publishing?


Maybe it's just a Southern Thing but whenever I get irony I take out ma
iron and press and starch ma shirt! :-)
Rob
Phil Innes

Phil Innes reports on the development of his opening ideas:

PI ...I tried playing the Dunst once or twice - lost shirt!

Phil, You should have called it the Van Geet, that's a better name for
it, honoring its foremost practitioner.

PI Not exactly my style. As child also tried Old Benoni - lost shirt!
Mod Ben better, until learned first 6 moves of Benko, and tally-ho!

Fascinating.

LT ...But if you really want to play a Pelikan or the dreaded e60,

PI the dreaded E60 is little known, which has the advantage that we
will be both trying not to transpose the lines at move 4

PI What do you like after:

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. f3 e5!!?





4. ...


PI What do you like next without looking up Kramnik - Leko Tilburg 98?


I like Peaches in the Ninth at Hialeah.

Actually I've seen the 3...e5 line before. When you wrote E60, I wasn't
sure whether you meant the King's Indian in general or the f3 line in
particular. So you must be saying you like to play 3. f3 --- a moot
point anyway because I don't play the King's Indian except by accident.
I suppose if you really want to play the White side of it, I'm willing
to play the Black side once as one of the terms of the match.

LT we could always arrange to make that happen in one of our match
games. I'm easy. And surprisingly civil too.

PI I'm not, even wear wode when playing. Of course, slaying opponents
is uncool, but, you know, a win is a win.

Woad. Well, I've seen stranger. My one concern about this match is that
over the years I've had a certain amount of trouble with certifiably
insane opponents. The wild cunning of the insane can be difficult to
deal with sometimes.

PI sorry not to be overly obliging, but bull****ting about chess
instead of playing it is for others and acromaniacs

LT Exactly. And if we weren't acromaniacs, why would we live in the
mountains?

PI Because we do not chose to becomed enjeopard of usual
mass-psychosis?

See above.

LT So let's play then.

PI We have been fencing awhile already.

You're the one who's been fencing. I'm ready to make an agreement to
play, details to follow pending Slothrop approval, etc. Montpelier in
the late summer or early fall would work OK for me. BYO woad. My
seconds will be Doug Piranha and Laszlo Jamf.

Larry T.

On Thu, 04 May 2006 12:19:58 GMT, "Chess One"
wrote:

I'm not, even wear wode when playing.

Wode is fine when one is running around attacking people, but sitting
for hours in an air conditioned tournament room? Brrrrr.

"Larry Tapper" wrote in message
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Phil Innes reports on the development of his opening ideas:

PI ...I tried playing the Dunst once or twice - lost shirt!

Phil, You should have called it the Van Geet, that's a better name for
it, honoring its foremost practitioner.

never heard of IM Geet who [really?] invented the opening? He was born in
1932 - anything to do with vampires? i'd much rather play against it than
with it, is study actually desirable to play against this opening? its so
important in MCO that it gives the first move for white and no others ;(

but MCO calls it the Dunst, just as Sunnocks does, as she was writing at
about the time he was active in the 60s

PI Not exactly my style. As child also tried Old Benoni - lost shirt!
Mod Ben better, until learned first 6 moves of Benko, and tally-ho!

Fascinating.

you can even exchange queens while still being a pawn down, keep the
initiative, eschew winning back the pawn, and still win on odd days of the
week

LT ...But if you really want to play a Pelikan or the dreaded e60,

PI the dreaded E60 is little known, which has the advantage that we
will be both trying not to transpose the lines at move 4

PI What do you like after:

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. f3 e5!!?





4. ...


PI What do you like next without looking up Kramnik - Leko Tilburg 98?


I like Peaches in the Ninth at Hialeah.

Actually I've seen the 3...e5 line before. When you wrote E60, I wasn't
sure whether you meant the King's Indian in general or the f3 line in
particular. So you must be saying you like to play 3. f3 ---

no! i'm saying you would!

a moot
point anyway because I don't play the King's Indian except by accident.

I suppose you could transpose from the Van Helsing?

I suppose if you really want to play the White side of it,

not at all

i have already proposed 3 moves of a game, but no takers! - maybe because
people's databases aren't stuffed with continuations?

I'm willing
to play the Black side once as one of the terms of the match.

LT we could always arrange to make that happen in one of our match
games. I'm easy. And surprisingly civil too.

PI I'm not, even wear wode when playing. Of course, slaying opponents
is uncool, but, you know, a win is a win.

Woad. Well, I've seen stranger. My one concern about this match is that
over the years I've had a certain amount of trouble with certifiably
insane opponents.

they win?

The wild cunning of the insane can be difficult to
deal with sometimes.

i think i'm going to dribble a lot too

PI sorry not to be overly obliging, but bull****ting about chess
instead of playing it is for others and acromaniacs

LT Exactly. And if we weren't acromaniacs, why would we live in the
mountains?

PI Because we do not chose to becomed enjeopard of usual
mass-psychosis?

See above.

LT So let's play then.

PI We have been fencing awhile already.

You're the one who's been fencing.

i've already made 3 moves for you!

I'm ready to make an agreement to
play, details to follow pending Slothrop approval, etc. Montpelier in
the late summer or early fall would work OK for me. BYO woad. My
seconds will be Doug Piranha and Laszlo Jamf.

wouldn't one of them be a third?

at least thats better than me, best i can find is a joker called Jocha.

i am not avoiding you, but my sched this summer is uncertain, and besides no
one in their right mind goes to montpelier which is a dump with a dome in a
dark valley, burlington is better, looking across lake to adirondaks from
taylor's porch and listening to his ABBA collection while quaffing strong
ale [or possibly his peyote, something is necessary to help with the ABBA]

i also do not quite dislike you enuf for this to be a grudge match, although
turning up you nose at the perfectly good moves for you above is graceless!

Phil

Larry T.

Mike Murray wrote:
"Chess One" wrote:

I'm not, even wear wode when playing.

Wode is fine when one is running around attacking people, but sitting
for hours in an air conditioned tournament room? Brrrrr.

You'd be blue enough without the woad.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Poisonous Miniature Cheese (TM):
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ it's like a brick of cheese but you
can hold in it your hand and it'll
kill you in seconds!

On 04 May 2006 16:55:46 +0100 (BST), David Richerby
wrote:

Mike Murray wrote:
"Chess One" wrote:

I'm not, even wear wode when playing.

Wode is fine when one is running around attacking people, but sitting
for hours in an air conditioned tournament room? Brrrrr.

You'd be blue enough without the woad.


Dave.

Was it Ringo (or Elmer Fudd) who said, "I wanna do it in the woad"?

Mike Murray wrote:
Was it Ringo (or Elmer Fudd) who said, "I wanna do it in the woad"?

It was Paul who sang "Why Don't We Do It in the Road" (on the white
album) though John actually wrote the lyrics. They express his wish to
kill the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, whom he had come to regard as a
charlatan. "No one will be watching us! Why don't we do it in the road?"

Randy,

You're much too reasonable to be hanging out around here.

Nice one s.

Harry.

"David Richerby" wrote in message
...
Mike Murray wrote:
"Chess One" wrote:

I'm not, even wear wode when playing.

Wode is fine when one is running around attacking people, but sitting
for hours in an air conditioned tournament room? Brrrrr.

You'd be blue enough without the woad.

Thank you for this other spelling. Its a very old word, predating Anglo
Saxon who spelled it [sometimes] WODE, but meant mad, furious, as is
recorded in MS Cantab Ff v 48 f. 50

Ther is no hert ne bucke so wode
that I ne get without blode.

Brother - I could relate to that!

Some say the herb is WODEBRON; from /fraximus/, although WODEWHISTLE is
hemlock, and WODESOWR is /alleluja/. WODWOS is wildmen - and that must be
where Yorhshire-Hughes got his title.

here is an early mention of the benefical effects of wearing wode and
playing chess:

Hym to venge he thogt wele late,
hewchon on the crowne he smate,
To the gyrdulle stede hyt wode.

/MS Cantab, Ff ii 38 f. 153

Entirely in A. Sax:

Better I show up in wode than be-WLUINE [she-wolf], when so WO [grief, A.
Sax] wommel [auger] WON [one] WONED [custom, to be accustomed]. Indeed,
WHEVERE [a serpent] WIVVER [to shake].

Though these be your formations in your Aonglis tongue, dear Saxons, each
they elder owe still yet.

Phil





Dave.

--
David Richerby Poisonous Miniature Cheese
(TM):
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ it's like a brick of cheese but
you
can hold in it your hand and
it'll
kill you in seconds!