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Old May 23rd 06, 07:36 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Is this guy on fire or what! Now it says on chessbase that the match
between Kramnik and Topalov may be off, or tentative whatever that
means. Sounds like Kramnik is getting nervous. However for Topalov to
even consider an alternative match other than with Kramnik ( though
Anand would be an excellent substitute ) and pick Radjabov would be the
old days of chess in the 20's and 30's. Who has the most money.

EZoto

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Old May 23rd 06, 10:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Uzytkownik "EZoto" napisal w wiadomosci
...
Is this guy on fire or what! Now it says on chessbase that the match
between Kramnik and Topalov may be off, or tentative whatever that
means. Sounds like Kramnik is getting nervous. However for Topalov to
even consider an alternative match other than with Kramnik ( though
Anand would be an excellent substitute ) and pick Radjabov would be the
old days of chess in the 20's and 30's. Who has the most money.


No matter whom Topa will play, Radja or Kramnik, it will be an interesting
match. Notice that thanks to the new FIDE rule the current situation
returned to the pre-FIDE times when everybody could challenge champion only
if one could manage to assure enough high prize fund. However why should
nowadays both players give 20% of the prize fund to FIDE ? It makes FIDE an
unnecessary organization :-)


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Old May 24th 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On 2006-05-23, Jerzy wrote:
Uzytkownik "EZoto" napisal w wiadomosci
...
Is this guy on fire or what! Now it says on chessbase that the match
between Kramnik and Topalov may be off, or tentative whatever that
means. Sounds like Kramnik is getting nervous. However for Topalov to
even consider an alternative match other than with Kramnik ( though
Anand would be an excellent substitute ) and pick Radjabov would be the
old days of chess in the 20's and 30's. Who has the most money.


No matter whom Topa will play, Radja or Kramnik, it will be an interesting
match. Notice that thanks to the new FIDE rule the current situation
returned to the pre-FIDE times when everybody could challenge champion only
if one could manage to assure enough high prize fund. However why should
nowadays both players give 20% of the prize fund to FIDE ? It makes FIDE an
unnecessary organization :-)



It's like paying protection money to the mob. "Give us 20% of the take, or
we'll declare your title invalid, like we did Kasparov's after the Short
match, and we'll make our own champion." The players pay up or FIDE keeps
the Champion's title divided and essentially worthless.

Even when Kasparov was active, FIDE's accumulated clout was impossible to
overcome. How could, say, Kramnik the Invisible Man, now scarcely in the
world's top ten, avoid this?

I would like to see an Anand-Topalov match, if only in the hope that
Anand's likely collapse as a long match goes into the latter stages would
finally quiet the apologists who claim that Anand should be the World
Champion, were it not for the Prague agreement, or the WC tournament
structure, or the what-have-you-this-week depriving him of his place in
the sun.
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Old May 30th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
michael adams
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Jerzy wrote:
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No matter whom Topa will play, Radja or Kramnik, it will be an interesting
match. Notice that thanks to the new FIDE rule the current situation
returned to the pre-FIDE times when everybody could challenge champion only
if one could manage to assure enough high prize fund. However why should
nowadays both players give 20% of the prize fund to FIDE ? It makes FIDE an
unnecessary organization :-)



I'm in agreement with Jerzy that FIDE is an inherently redundant org.
(does this mean the same for your title Mr. Ciruk?) It would seem though
that 20% of something is preferred to 20% of 'nada'..

Dog bites man's hand..
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Old May 30th 06, 03:16 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
michael adams
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Kevin Croxen wrote:

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It's like paying protection money to the mob. "Give us 20% of the take, or
we'll declare your title invalid, like we did Kasparov's after the Short
match, and we'll make our own champion." The players pay up or FIDE keeps
the Champion's title divided and essentially worthless.

Even when Kasparov was active, FIDE's accumulated clout was impossible to
overcome. How could, say, Kramnik the Invisible Man, now scarcely in the
world's top ten, avoid this?

I would like to see an Anand-Topalov match, if only in the hope that
Anand's likely collapse as a long match goes into the latter stages would
finally quiet the apologists who claim that Anand should be the World
Champion, were it not for the Prague agreement, or the WC tournament
structure, or the what-have-you-this-week depriving him of his place in
the sun.



Anand has been playing @ the highest level for some time now. He
could've been there (world ch.)if it were'nt for the **** attitude of
the mostly olive-hued organisers. My belief is he struggles now from
'burnout' (shame). And what of Micky Adams? never to be heard of again
after his ill-fated joust with 'hydra' tut,tut. There is Aronian
however, just so recently taken to the 'cleaners' by Mr. Kramnik..
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Old May 30th 06, 11:00 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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michael adams napisal(a):

I'm in agreement with Jerzy that FIDE is an inherently redundant org.
(does this mean the same for your title Mr. Ciruk?) It would seem though
that 20% of something is preferred to 20% of 'nada'..

Dog bites man's hand..


Who cares, Mickey, about titles that mean nth and give nth ?

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Old May 30th 06, 11:04 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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michael adams napisal(a):


Anand has been playing @ the highest level for some time now. He
could've been there (world ch.)if it were'nt for the **** attitude of
the mostly olive-hued organisers. My belief is he struggles now from
'burnout' (shame). And what of Micky Adams? never to be heard of again
after his ill-fated joust with 'hydra' tut,tut. There is Aronian
however, just so recently taken to the 'cleaners' by Mr. Kramnik..


Probably Anand is the strongest player right now. I think that his
opponents willingly would see him out of the play on his chess
retirement as Kasparov did recently ;-)

However I can see that young chess prodigy Magnus Carlsen has beaten
all of his opponents including Anand in the strongest blitz ever in
Iceland so what about his match against Topa ?

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Old May 30th 06, 11:43 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Jerzy wrote:

michael adams napisal(a):

I'm in agreement with Jerzy that FIDE is an inherently redundant org.
(does this mean the same for your title Mr. Ciruk?) It would seem though
that 20% of something is preferred to 20% of 'nada'..

Dog bites man's hand..


Who cares, Mickey, about titles that mean nth and give nth ?


As a seasoned chess combatant Jerzy, you _must_ know 1) no one knows &
2)logically - no one cares. I certainly don't care about your stupid FM
title. Maybe your Mum or Dad does. Have you asked them?. Do you think
Topalov can do it?..
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Old May 30th 06, 11:59 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
michael adams
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Jerzy wrote:

michael adams napisal(a):


Anand has been playing @ the highest level for some time now. He
could've been there (world ch.)if it were'nt for the **** attitude of
the mostly olive-hued organisers. My belief is he struggles now from
'burnout' (shame). And what of Micky Adams? never to be heard of again
after his ill-fated joust with 'hydra' tut,tut. There is Aronian
however, just so recently taken to the 'cleaners' by Mr. Kramnik..


Probably Anand is the strongest player right now. I think that his
opponents willingly would see him out of the play on his chess
retirement as Kasparov did recently ;-)


Yeah, well I'm thinking Anand is past his prime by 10 yrs. now. He
really should take a break & let the young guns pull themselves with
gusto everyday. Magnus I haven't got much time for. Aronian _is_ the
coming thing - surely. No?..








However I can see that young chess prodigy Magnus Carlsen has beaten
all of his opponents including Anand in the strongest blitz ever in
Iceland so what about his match against Topa ?

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Old May 30th 06, 03:18 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Jerzy
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michael adams napisal(a):

Who cares, Mickey, about titles that mean nth and give nth ?


As a seasoned chess combatant Jerzy, you _must_ know 1) no one knows &
2)logically - no one cares. I certainly don't care about your stupid FM
title. Maybe your Mum or Dad does. Have you asked them?. Do you think
Topalov can do it?..


Short has written recently that he is not one of the riff raff. That`s
why he does not boast having his GM title. There are so many titled
players in the world today and Short is not like them, he is the only
one ;-)

 




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