Is the Match still on for Sept?.Last I heard it will be a 12 game
match.Any predictions or thoughts?

I hadn't even heard this match was in the works, but if comes off, I
predict Topolov will win.

The only Kramnik match I know upcoming is his match against Deep Fritz in
November-December, I'd put a small amount on the computer.

Wilma


"EJAY" wrote in news:1153466730.674427.117720
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Is the Match still on for Sept?.Last I heard it will be a 12 game
match.Any predictions or thoughts?

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:50:10 GMT, Wilma
wrote:

I hadn't even heard this match was in the works, but if comes off, I
predict Topolov will win.

The only Kramnik match I know upcoming is his match against Deep Fritz in
November-December, I'd put a small amount on the computer.

Wilma

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Kramnik have a very good plus
score against Topalov? Granted that may mean nothing in a match but
Kramnik has match experience while Topalov I think has none. I feel
Kramnik is a clear favorite. Anand or Shirov would have been a better
match in my opinion.

EZoto

I have the impression that Kramnik is out of shape while Topolov is at the
top of his game. Moreover, Topolov pulls wins out of drawn games, tending
to play a game through to a conclusion that other GMs would draw. Topolov's
fighting spirit and his performance in the last two tears prompts me to
give him a slight nod. I wouldn't place much money on it though.

Wilma


EZoto wrote in
:

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:50:10 GMT, Wilma
wrote:

I hadn't even heard this match was in the works, but if comes off, I
predict Topolov will win.

The only Kramnik match I know upcoming is his match against Deep Fritz
in November-December, I'd put a small amount on the computer.

Wilma

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Kramnik have a very good plus
score against Topalov? Granted that may mean nothing in a match but
Kramnik has match experience while Topalov I think has none. I feel
Kramnik is a clear favorite. Anand or Shirov would have been a better
match in my opinion.

EZoto

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:03:16 GMT, Wilma
wrote:

I have the impression that Kramnik is out of shape while Topolov is at the
top of his game. Moreover, Topolov pulls wins out of drawn games, tending
to play a game through to a conclusion that other GMs would draw. Topolov's
fighting spirit and his performance in the last two tears prompts me to
give him a slight nod. I wouldn't place much money on it though.

Wilma

I don't put much emphasis on that. I think Kamsky's performance so
far has been more impressive. I think if Kamsky got a shot at Topalov
or Kramnik I believe he would beat them both.

EZoto

Could be, but it seems to me that Kamsky is showing weaknesses, especially
in the opening, that players who've remained active don't show. I'd love to
see Kamsky or some other United States citizen rise to the very top. Alas,
I don't think it is to be.

Wilma


EZoto wrote in
:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:03:16 GMT, Wilma
wrote:

I have the impression that Kramnik is out of shape while Topolov is at
the top of his game. Moreover, Topolov pulls wins out of drawn games,
tending to play a game through to a conclusion that other GMs would
draw. Topolov's fighting spirit and his performance in the last two
tears prompts me to give him a slight nod. I wouldn't place much money
on it though.

Wilma

I don't put much emphasis on that. I think Kamsky's performance so
far has been more impressive. I think if Kamsky got a shot at Topalov
or Kramnik I believe he would beat them both.

EZoto

Wilma wrote:
Could be, but it seems to me that Kamsky is showing weaknesses, especially
in the opening, that players who've remained active don't show. I'd love to
see Kamsky or some other United States citizen rise to the very top. Alas,
I don't think it is to be.

Wilma
Kamsky has shown great improvement this year.He started out playing at
the Marshall clubs Quick tourneys typically going 3-1 at most of those
tourneys.Even at that stage he was not losing but yielded many
draws.This year finishing 2nd at the M-Tel Masters (knocking off Anand
in the process) seems to indicate he can compete at the highest level.I
think Kamsky can overcome the major openings weaknesses he has.He has
done well despite his weakness by winning the Mayors Cup,the World
Open,holding his own on Board 1 in the Olympiad.It seems his father is
no longer in the picture getting in the way of his progress.Now do I
think he could win vs Topalov or Krammnik.Tough question.Topalov did
beat him twice at the M-Tel Masters.Who knows what kind of form Kramnik
is in.I suspect at this point Kamsky would fare better vs Kramnik as
opposed to Topalov.
My main question is still will Topalov and Kramnik
still play?

EZoto wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Kramnik have a very good plus
score against Topalov?

Statistics from chessgames.com

Overall: Kramnik +19 -9 =34 (58%)
Since 2000: Kramnik +8 -5 =11 (60%)

That includes various rapidplay and blindfold games. I can't be
bothered to filter them out because chessgames.com makes this rather
difficult. (For example, the Melody Amber tournament is often just
listed as `Monaco' and half the tournaments in the world just appear
as `IT'.)


Dave.

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David Richerby wrote:

Statistics from chessgames.com

Overall: Kramnik +19 -9 =34 (58%)
Since 2000: Kramnik +8 -5 =11 (60%)

While Kramnik's advantage is impressive,
the lower line percentage is only 56.25%
(the 60% figure is in error).

Wlod

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
Statistics from chessgames.com

Overall: Kramnik +19 -9 =34 (58%)
Since 2000: Kramnik +8 -5 =11 (60%)

While Kramnik's advantage is impressive, the lower line percentage
is only 56.25% (the 60% figure is in error).

Thanks, Wlod. I thought 60% looked high but my brain was convinced
that +8-5=11 was 14.5/24 (it's actually 13.5).


Dave.

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