Taylor Kingston, and Nomorechess had been on top for 3 months. Now
GetClub game will soon beat them as it has improved itself again.

Test yourself at Chess: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

This Months TOPPERS

At TOP currently is Taylor Kingston with 31 points.
At Second Position is Richerby with 27 points.
At Third position nomorechess with 24 points.

But now it would be very difficult to win a game with GetClub Chess as
it has improved a lot. So you should also play with Human players
Online.

Play Chess at: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

Now Its Rating is as below

Beginner Level: 1700
Easy Level: 1800
Nomal Level: 1900
Master Level: 2000

Play Chess at: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

So if you are good player play with Beginner Level (That will finish
you)
If you are Tough Player (Play with Easy and Normal Levels)
If you are tournament Player (Then Master level is for you.)

However, If you still find weak moves tell me and that will weak move
will be removed. Provide me full analysis of the game So that I may
understand why the move is wrong.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

Sanny wrote:
Taylor Kingston, and Nomorechess had been on top for 3 months. Now
GetClub game will soon beat them as it has improved itself again.


It doesn't seem possible to me. The last several times I have
attempted to finish my game on the Advance level, I wait for
*hours* and it never moves. A few times, the program shows
that it has reached the 8th-ply, but eventually this retreats to
4 or 5 again. I must conclude that my internet connection is
not uninterupted, and each time the game somehow resets and
begins its analysis anew. At this rate, I cannot even make
progress in a single game, let alone discover any improvements
to the program, real or imagined.

Taylor Kingston need not worry, as I cannot even move, let
alone win any more points.



Test yourself at Chess: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

This Months TOPPERS

At TOP currently is Taylor Kingston with 31 points.
At Second Position is Richerby with 27 points.
At Third position nomorechess with 24 points.


I feel like a German tank, during mud season. (How come
those guys are still moving, when I am up to my ^&& in
squishy mud?)


But now it would be very difficult to win a game with GetClub Chess


Can't argue with that!


as it has improved a lot. So you should also play with Human players
Online.


Too easy. They toss pieces left and right. It's lonely at
the top.


Play Chess at: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

Now Its Rating is as below

Beginner Level: 1700
Easy Level: 1800
Nomal Level: 1900
Master Level: 2000

Play Chess at: http://www.getclub.com/Chess.html

So if you are good player play with Beginner Level (That will finish
you)


Oh yeah?


If you are Tough Player (Play with Easy and Normal Levels)


There are nice guys and there are tough players,
and I'm a tough player.


If you are tournament Player (Then Master level is for you.)


A hippopotamus? I'll tear 'im from top to bottomus!


However, If you still find weak moves tell me and that will weak move
will be removed. Provide me full analysis of the game So that I may
understand why the move is wrong.


Maybe I can just analyse other people's games. That's
where I always find oodles of weak moves.


-- help bot

help bot wrote:
Sanny wrote:
Taylor Kingston, and Nomorechess had been on top for 3 months. Now
GetClub game will soon beat them as it has improved itself again.


It doesn't seem possible to me. The last several times I have
attempted to finish my game on the Advance level, I wait for
*hours* and it never moves. A few times, the program shows
that it has reached the 8th-ply, but eventually this retreats to
4 or 5 again. I must conclude that my internet connection is
not uninterupted, and each time the game somehow resets and
begins its analysis anew. At this rate, I cannot even make
progress in a single game, let alone discover any improvements
to the program, real or imagined.


I suggest never play with Advance level.

Play with Normal and Master Level at Maximum if you can easily beat the
Beginner and Easy levels.

Advance level may take an hour/ two hours for some moves as It is
hungry for best move possible.

Play with Beginner Level only and it will give you a good challenge.
Once you beat all the levels Try Master Level. But never Advance Level
(only if you want a game to be completed in a week)

If it is not making any move Resign the Game by Pressing RESIGN GAME
and start a new game with lower level.

Bye
Sanny.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Sanny wrote:
help bot wrote:
Sanny wrote:
Taylor Kingston, and Nomorechess had been on top for 3 months. Now
GetClub game will soon beat them as it has improved itself again.


It doesn't seem possible to me. The last several times I have
attempted to finish my game on the Advance level, I wait for
*hours* and it never moves. A few times, the program shows
that it has reached the 8th-ply, but eventually this retreats to
4 or 5 again. I must conclude that my internet connection is
not uninterupted, and each time the game somehow resets and
begins its analysis anew. At this rate, I cannot even make
progress in a single game, let alone discover any improvements
to the program, real or imagined.


I suggest never play with Advance level.

Play with Normal and Master Level at Maximum if you can easily beat the
Beginner and Easy levels.


If? How many wins does it take to demonstrate my
VAST superiority?



Advance level may take an hour/ two hours for some moves as It is
hungry for best move possible.

Play with Beginner Level only and it will give you a good challenge.
Once you beat all the levels Try Master Level. But never Advance Level
(only if you want a game to be completed in a week)

If it is not making any move Resign the Game by Pressing RESIGN GAME
and start a new game with lower level.


Okay. This seems a bit drastic, but after all, it's only a
game.

Just one itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny detail: it is the computer's
move, and there is no "resign" button on the display! My
guess is that you can only resign when it is your turn to
move. A couple of times I attempted to finish this game
while at McDonald's, with a pretty good wireless connection.
Even so, the computer never made even one single move.
I half expected N-a5, chasing my Queen, with the idea of
retreating back N-c3 and a repetition, if the computer
calculates that it stands worse. But I was intending to
play for a win, believe it or not. In terms of the time
required to complete a single game with my connection,
the advice to avoid the Advance level seems appropriate.

Can you confirm that the analysis is "reset" whenever
there is an interruption in the internet connection? The
numbers I gave as "plys" may be soemthing else, but
they seemed to work the same way, and on my computer,
I have never noticed the number going higher than 8.


-- help bot

Can you confirm that the analysis is "reset" whenever
there is an interruption in the internet connection? The
numbers I gave as "plys" may be soemthing else, but
they seemed to work the same way, and on my computer,
I have never noticed the number going higher than 8.



Do you want my programmers to delete this game manually, So that you
can start a new game?

Start playing with Easy level first then proceed to Normal Level and
Master levels. As the game has been improved even lower levels will be
difficult to win.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Sanny wrote:
Can you confirm that the analysis is "reset" whenever
there is an interruption in the internet connection? The
numbers I gave as "plys" may be soemthing else, but
they seemed to work the same way, and on my computer,
I have never noticed the number going higher than 8.



Do you want my programmers to delete this game manually, So that you
can start a new game?


Yes. My internet connection is not likely to get any
better until they introduce WiMax, some time next year.
The WiFi connection at McDonald's restaurants is often
plenty fast, but apparently not good enough to make this
thing work right on my computer.

---------

I do not expect the ratings you listed to be accurate;
for example, the beginner level is only 100 points lower
than the next level, and so on. This only works if the
human player also speeds up his play, so that he makes
more careless errors against the faster-moving levels. In
that case, it is not inconceiveable that there would be only
100 points between levels, but more likely, the jump from
one level to the next should be much greater, and perhaps
the true range will not begin so high as 1700. OTOH, the
examples of play posted here of course, due to human
nature, tend to be the games where the poster did well.
Who is going to come here and write a post where he
shows how a computer easily annihilated him in twenty
moves? (I am a rare exception; I would post such a game,
if it existed -- which it never will!)

-- help bot

Yes. My internet connection is not likely to get any
better until they introduce WiMax, some time next year.
The WiFi connection at McDonald's restaurants is often
plenty fast, but apparently not good enough to make this
thing work right on my computer.


Your Game with Advance Level, has been Canceled without your Ratings
affected.

Start a new game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


for example, the beginner level is only 100 points lower
than the next level, and so on. This only works if the
human player also speeds up his play, so that he makes
more careless errors against the faster-moving levels. In
that case, it is not inconceiveable that there would be only
100 points between levels, but more likely, the jump from
one level to the next should be much greater, and perhaps
the true range will not begin so high as 1700. OTOH, the


Play a few games with Beginner Level and let me know exact rating of
Beginner Level according to you.

As the Game has been improved. Earlier I was thinking it has 1600
Rating, So after improvements I feel the Rating would be 1700.

Since with each increase in level the depth is increased by 1, So I
feel +100 for each level is ok.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Sanny wrote:

Play a few games with Beginner Level and let me know exact rating of
Beginner Level according to you.

Based on my experience, and the fact that the program, on beginner
level, just hung a rook for nothing after 10 moves, I would grant it a
rating of 1000. And that seems generous.

Sanny wrote:
Yes. My internet connection is not likely to get any
better until they introduce WiMax, some time next year.
The WiFi connection at McDonald's restaurants is often
plenty fast, but apparently not good enough to make this
thing work right on my computer.


Your Game with Advance Level, has been Canceled without your Ratings
affected.


Thank you.


Start a new game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


Okay, I am now playing the Normal level, which moves *much*
more quickly. Unfortunately, the program has (three times so
far) announced that its current move is my last move. In other
words, its moves are not showing up on the chess board until
*after* I reply! Then they appear instantaneously, along with
my "reply". Then the program claims its last move was my
last move again, and I am again faced with an invisible move.
Please note that I am doing quite well so far, in spite of this
little problem. Obviously, my moves work well against almost
*any* replies.

I have paused this game, and will restart after I reboot and
open a new browser window, just to see if the problem
goes away by itself.


for example, the beginner level is only 100 points lower
than the next level, and so on. This only works if the
human player also speeds up his play, so that he makes
more careless errors against the faster-moving levels. In
that case, it is not inconceiveable that there would be only
100 points between levels, but more likely, the jump from
one level to the next should be much greater, and perhaps
the true range will not begin so high as 1700. OTOH, the


Play a few games with Beginner Level and let me know exact rating of
Beginner Level according to you.

As the Game has been improved. Earlier I was thinking it has 1600
Rating, So after improvements I feel the Rating would be 1700.

Since with each increase in level the depth is increased by 1, So I
feel +100 for each level is ok.


When you say the depth increases by 1, do you mean 1 ply,
or 1 full move (i.e. 2 plys)?


Suppose for example, that the number on screen represents
the depth of search, in plys. A search depth of say, 2 plys
might equate to around USCF 600, since at least the program
plays legal moves (except for the issue with King captures).
Increasing the depth to 3 plys might push the rating strength
to 800, and going up to 4 plys could get you 1000. But at
some point, there is a diminishing return. For example, if the
program could see 1,000,000 plys ahead, increasing this to
1,000,001 would not amount to any measureable gain
whatsoever, except against other million-ply-range computers.

If it turns out that the number 8 I kept seeing on the Advance
level represents plys, I seriously doubt the USCF rating could
possibly exceed say, 1600. Even thougn computers are
supposed to "see" everything, as opposed to humans, who
often blunder, computers lack strategic planning and many
are lacking in long-range position judgement. For example, a
computer might count tripled Rook-pawns as equal in value to
three pawns side-by-side. If I am not mistaken, Anatoly Karpov
won a game in which this type of thing happenned; Deep
Thought or some other strong program was busy gorging
itself on irrelevant pawns, while he Queened the one which
really counted. Humans can easily adapt on the fly, while
chess computer's must be programmed exactly right, in
advance, or they will stumble.

-- help bot

help bot wrote:

Okay, I am now playing the Normal level, which moves *much*
more quickly. Unfortunately, the program has (three times so
far) announced that its current move is my last move. In other
words, its moves are not showing up on the chess board until
*after* I reply! Then they appear instantaneously, along with
my "reply". Then the program claims its last move was my
last move again, and I am again faced with an invisible move.
Please note that I am doing quite well so far, in spite of this
little problem. Obviously, my moves work well against almost
*any* replies.

I have paused this game, and will restart after I reboot and
open a new browser window, just to see if the problem
goes away by itself.


Okay, the problem fixed itself! No the program is not only
displaying its moves again, but it had a "brain fart" and hung
its Queen for no apparent reason. Taylor Kingston bewa
I am coming for you, and this time, no one can stop me!
That $5 prize is mine, alllllll miiiiiinnnneeee!


-- help bot