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Game 2 Topalov-Kramnik



 
 
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Old September 24th 06, 05:50 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
EJAY
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Default Game 2 Topalov-Kramnik

Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+ which would have led to a more promising
position.After 49 moves Kramnik has an extra rook but Topalov has 2
advanced passed pawns.I am not strong enough to calculate if Topalov
has enough counterplay to hold the draw.A very exciting game!E-JAY

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Old September 24th 06, 06:10 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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EJAY wrote:
Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+ which would have led to a more promising
position.After 49 moves Kramnik has an extra rook but Topalov has 2
advanced passed pawns.I am not strong enough to calculate if Topalov
has enough counterplay to hold the draw.A very exciting game! Kramnik wins Game 2 according to www.chessbasenews.com....He was able to win a clear exchange and the rook proved to be too strong than Topalov's knight..2-0 Kramnik (and I thought the hot player Topalov was favored to win)As I stated in the previous post Topalov missed a win on move .33


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Old September 24th 06, 06:18 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Game 2 Topalov-Kramnik

I'm surprised and delighted that Kramnik has retrieved his strength and his
extraordinary insight into positions. I also know Topalov sometimes starts
slow and picks up steam as an event progresses. Looks like he'd better not
put it off too long along Kramnik. I also hope Kramnik, with his early
lead, doesn't start playing for draws now.

Wilma


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EJAY wrote:
Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+ which would have led to a more promising
position.After 49 moves Kramnik has an extra rook but Topalov has 2
advanced passed pawns.I am not strong enough to calculate if Topalov
has enough counterplay to hold the draw.A very exciting game!

Kramnik wins Game 2 according to
www.chessbasenews.com....He was able to win a clear exchange and the
rook proved to be too strong than Topalov's knight..2-0 Kramnik (and
I thought the hot player Topalov was favored to win)As I stated in
the previous post Topalov missed a win on move .33




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Old September 24th 06, 06:48 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Game 2 Topalov-Kramnik

Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+ which would have led to a more promising
position.


34. Qc7 wins. Enormous blunder by Topalov.

After f7-f5 by black I was thinking it not to be worth waching, but I was
lucky I did, though it was all just luck that the Qc2 move was (naturally)
missed by Kramnik (the idea was that there's now no Qxe3 by black). Chess is
all luck not even counting the blunders. Black shouldn't play passive king
positions like that; like playing e.g. French defence.

After 49 moves Kramnik has an extra rook but Topalov has 2
advanced passed pawns.I am not strong enough to calculate if Topalov
has enough counterplay to hold the draw.


Now knowing R+p vs. N+p rates to be a win if the K is there stopping the
pawn. It was very easy when the white K was what looks like the wrong side
and then got cut off and the Re3 capped it.


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Old September 24th 06, 06:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Game 2 Topalov-Kramnik


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I'm surprised and delighted that Kramnik has retrieved his strength and
his
extraordinary insight into positions.


Well it`s agruable. Simply Topalov missed several chances. Apparently he is
not in his best form.


I also know Topalov sometimes starts
slow and picks up steam as an event progresses. Looks like he'd better not
put it off too long along Kramnik. I also hope Kramnik, with his early
lead, doesn't start playing for draws now.


Kramnik is always satisfied with a draw and Topalov always plays for a win.
So I won`t expect much from Kramnik-Drawnik. He became a dull and boring
chesssplayer.

Ont he other hand hand the match is interesting only thanks to the
uncompromising fighter Topalov but as I`ve written above he is not in his
best form.


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Old September 24th 06, 06:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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EJAY wrote:
Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+ which would have led to a more promising
position.


That's putting it mildly. Kramnik blundered terribly with 32...Bxf8??
(instead of 32...Kxf8), but Topalov completely missed his chance to win
with 33.Rxg4+! (instead of 33.Qg6+?) 33...Bg7 34.Qc7! and Black must
give up his queen to stop mate: 34...Qf1+ 35.Ng1 Qg2+ (else 36.Qxg7#)
36.Rxg2 and Black can resign.

After 49 moves Kramnik has an extra rook but Topalov has 2
advanced passed pawns.I am not strong enough to calculate if Topalov
has enough counterplay to hold the draw. A very exciting game! E-JAY


Kramnik ended up winning in about 66 moves; now he's up 2-0. I wonder
if Topalov has the resiliency to come back from such a gut-wrenching
bang-your-head-against-the-wall might-have-been. Anyone know what the
clock situation was around moves 32-33?

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Old September 24th 06, 07:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On 24 Sep 2006 09:50:22 -0700, "EJAY" wrote:

Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+


Are these games on TV in the US?
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Old September 24th 06, 09:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:37:47 -0400, Jud McCranie
wrote:

Are these games on TV in the US?


ESPN2 had the last Kasparov versus computer, but I can't find any TV
coverage of the world championship.
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Old September 24th 06, 10:21 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On 24 Sep 2006 09:50:22 -0700, "EJAY" wrote:

Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+


What happens after this match? Does the non-FIDE championship cease
to exist, and we have only the FIDE one?
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Old September 24th 06, 11:12 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Jud McCranie wrote:
On 24 Sep 2006 09:50:22 -0700, "EJAY" wrote:

Topalov misses 33.Rxg4+


What happens after this match? Does the non-FIDE championship cease
to exist, and we have only the FIDE one?


If Kramnik wins, wouldn't it be the other way around? Or will FIDE
finally recognize his legimitacy?

 




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