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ACP Statement on Topalov-Kramnik Unification Match crisis The situation arisen in the Topalov-Kramnik Unification Match brings a lot of damage to the image of chess. The Association of Chess Professionals will thoroughly analyse all the facts and express our opinion on the whole matter soon, but even right now we want to clearly stand that we find the letter written by Silvio Danailov, Manager to Veselin Topalov, on the 28th of September 2006 disgraceful. Especially a sentence "If the match were to continue, the World Champion would refrain from shaking hands with Mr. Kramnik before the games" is unacceptable. It is abusive, contradictive with the FIDE motto "Gens una sumus", moreover, Mr Danailov not only accussed Mr Kramnik of cheating, without showing any serious evidence, but already found him guilty, prior to any investigation. As the purpose of the ACP, as described by the Article 2 of the ACP Statutes, is "the protection of professional chess players' rights, the practice and promotion of chess worldwide", we strongly protest against behaviour of Mr Silvio Danailov, Manager to Veselin Topalov, and expect him to officially apologise to Mr Kramnik. Otherwise, we believe that the case should be carefully investigated by the FIDE Ethics Commission and proper measures taken to avoid such situations in the future. Best regards ACP Board 1st of October 2006 Taylor Kingston wrote: Open Letter of Support to Vladimir Kramnik from Grandmaster Colleagues. October 2, 2006 Dear Vladimir, We are writing as a small group of Grandmasters, but we believe that we represent the views of the vast majority of our colleagues. We simply wanted to let you know that we think you have suffered a gross injustice, and that you have our support. We appreciate that you are now under immense psychological pressure, and that it must be difficult to continue to play well in the context of such blatant bias, unfairness, and hostility. Good luck in the days ahead. If you manage to win in these circumstances you will be a worthy champion indeed. Best wishes, GM Jonathan Rowson (Scotland) GM Peter Heine Nielsen (Denmark) GM Magnus Carlsen (Norway) GM Jan Gustafsson (Germany) GM Tomi Nyback (Finland) GM Luke McShane (England) GM Loek Van Wely (Netherlands) |
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WORLD CHESS NETWORK PRO
"Vladimir Kramnik has already won the match, no matter what the result in my opinion. He showed true sportsmanship and an ability to rise to the occasion when confronted by an injustice away from the chessboard. His decision to continue the match, despite the forfeit, reminds me of Boris Spassky's decision to continue the 1972 Reykjavik match despite intense provocation. He put chess ahead of himself." -- GM Larry Christiansen |
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WORLD CHESS NETWORK PRO
"Vladimir Kramnik has already won the match, no matter what the result in my opinion. He showed true sportsmanship and an ability to rise to the occasion when confronted by an injustice away from the chessboard. His decision to continue the match, despite the forfeit, reminds me of Boris Spassky's decision to continue the 1972 Reykjavik match despite intense provocation. He put chess ahead of himself." -- GM Larry Christiansen Even WITH the forfeit, Spassky got wiped. Topalov is going to win this match. -- Money is not "game." Looks are not "game." Social status or value is not "game." Those are the things that game makes unnecessary. A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent." |
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wrote in message ups.com... WORLD CHESS NETWORK PRO "Vladimir Kramnik has already won the match, no matter what the result in my opinion. He showed true sportsmanship and an ability to rise to the occasion when confronted by an injustice away from the chessboard. O Please Larry! Are we now become so partisan that GMs can declare moral victories regardless of what happens over the board? This event is nutz@ as it is - only 12 games for the world title - lets at least have some chess for any title. What the /managers/ do away from the board is to get into it with the committees and the arbiter - and as you quite correctly write elsewhere, this is disgusting! Especially when a committee is replaced by others who will accord with Khan Kirsan's will. But it is the same mis-principled idea that has beggered chess and prevented any real unification for all these years - of moral victors on the one hand, and committee favorites on the other. Commentators, like committees should resist determining the fate of the game by ex cathedra fiats, since that has always been the traditional role of players themselves, and only attained by actual performance. His decision to continue the match, despite the forfeit, reminds me of Boris Spassky's decision to continue the 1972 Reykjavik match despite intense provocation. While holding Spassky in great respect, even in some affection, I disagree with Larry Christiansen that this is a parallel instance, since it was Spassky who received the benefit of Fischer's forfeit. I know it is almost /de riguer/ to despise Fischer these days, but no sympathy for him for having his chair deconstructed by paranoid Russians in mid-match? True, Spassky said there was this 'force' which seemed to weigh on him - but I suggest that this was none other than the 'Fischer effect', and a good explanation is offered by no other than Mark Taimanov, who mention 3 others who had the 'force'. He put chess ahead of himself." -- GM Larry Christiansen We are all disappointed by the farcical nature of this event and massive off-board distractions - but the world championship has now devolved to merely money, and a dozen games with and all the trappings of a great event, and the only factor missing is great world champion chess. Phil Innes |
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"Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: [match] is not yet over so we will have to wait and see if he [Kramnik] succeeds, if he wins then that will be the end of all arguments on who is the WCC. There is a danger of further hostile acts against Kramnik, by Ilyumzhinov. They should have held it in Paris - and also picked an arbiter who was no pawn of Fide management. Eric Schiller said a very similar dispute arose between Kramnik [again] and Kasparov, and he dealt with it himself. This is annoying news for some, since all fault can't be heaped onto Topalov if Kasparov had a similar problem - but it also pin-points who is providing the context for succession of a world champion here - and regretably it is neither of the players at the board. Phil Innes Ilyumzhinov is focused on preventing Kramnik from winning this match. Thus Ilyumzhinov gave away everything in negotiations except of that what really counts. Topalov got to keep his point, which was given to him ("won") by Ilyumzjinov. Wlod |
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"Vladimir Kramnik has already won the match, no matter what the result
in my opinion. He showed true sportsmanship and an ability to rise to the occasion when confronted by an injustice away from the chessboard. His decision to continue the match, despite the forfeit, reminds me of Boris Spassky's decision to continue the 1972 Reykjavik match despite intense provocation. He put chess ahead of himself." -- GM Larry Christiansen I agree but some questions remain to be answered like What was he doing in the toilet so many time during those games ? Therein lies the problem: the appearance of impropriety. In this era, it's ridiculous to allow any unsupervised conduct during a match. -- Money is not "game." Looks are not "game." Social status or value is not "game." Those are the things that game makes unnecessary. A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to get women and laughs that "loser AFCs pay my rent." |
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A STOMACH BUG
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote: I agree but some questions remain to be answered like What was he doing in the toilet so many time during those games? Therein lies the problem: the appearance of impropriety. By Jordan S.Berson Scandal In Elista A lot has happened since game two. In games three and four, Kramnik held solid draws, all in the while visiting the washroom just a few more times per game than Topalov's manager, Silvio Danailov, was comfortable with. Worried that Kramnik's solid drawing style would effectively end the match without any real winning chances for Topalov to bounce back, Danailov launched an accusation against Kramnik of using the washroom stalls for cheating. There has been evidence of cheating at some large tournaments earlier this year, which may or may not have had an impact on Danailov's decision to write a letter to FIDE demanding that the match director seal off Kramnik's access to the washroom stall. Earlier this year, there were a few cases where people were wearing what looked like hearing aids and large hats to cover up listening devices, which allowed them to receive information from a remote computer. There are two points that Danailov may not have considered before making such a ridiculous request. First of all, with Kramnik playing 31...Bxf8?? (as published in my last article), I cannot imagine that Kramnik could possibly have received this move from a computer that was better than 1200 strength. Therefore, evidence of cheating is certainly not apparent after this absolute blunder. Secondly, Kramnik has had a bad stomach bug for a while, and this was well known even before the players arrived in Elista. Even if he was drinking a bottle of water every hour, he would not need to go to the washroom as often as he had during the first few games, and it was likely because he was still stomach sick. With that all said, game five was a disaster. When Kramnik arrived, his access to the washroom stall was sealed off, and he refused to play, thereby forfeiting the game. The match was then halted for a couple of days while FIDE, Kramnik's team and Topalov's team met to discuss the future of the match. In the end, Kramnik agreed to continue playing under protest, meaning that he reserves the right to appeal the validity of the match should he happen to lose. The two players reportedly shook hands before the start of game six. Games six and seven ended in solid draws with very little fight, so the score now stands at 4-3 for Kramnik. The first player to reach 6.5 points will win the match. |
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