Beginner Level: 10-20 Seconds/move (1600)
Easy Level: 20-30 Seconds/move (1700)

Move 4 on Easy level, and I've already waited more than 15
minutes... ah, it moved: 15:30.

The game was improved just 20 minutes back

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Close the Game and Start game in a new browser to see the new game. Or
restart your Computer.

As sometimes browsers do not remove old files even after refreshing the
page.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On 2006-10-14, Sanny wrote:
Beginner Level: 10-20 Seconds/move (1600)
Easy Level: 20-30 Seconds/move (1700)

Move 4 on Easy level, and I've already waited more than 15
minutes... ah, it moved: 15:30.

The game was improved just 20 minutes back

I started the game after* reading your post.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Close the Game and Start game in a new browser to see the new game. Or
restart your Computer.

This was a new browser instance. And no, I do not restart my
computer. I've already done that once this month (to add a new hard
drive), and that was since my last game on your site.

As sometimes browsers do not remove old files even after refreshing the
page.

--
Chris F.A. Johnson http://cfaj.freeshell.org
================================================== =================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

Sanny wrote:
RECENTLY the Game has been improved and its ratings will be very good.

Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Now it plays in Time it Shows

Beginner Level: 10-20 Seconds/move (1600)
Easy Level: 20-30 Seconds/move (1700)
Normal Level: 40-50 Seconds/move. (1800)

Play 3 games with Each level and you will see the difference. Now it is
playing very good moves.

Start new game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

The improvements were Made Today Only, So you need to play a game
before giving rating.

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...009&game=Chess

Strategically most 1400 rated humans tend to play better than the
program did in this game. Not only did its king end up being stuck in
the centre, it also ended up with a destroyed pawn structure and
inactive pieces. The first six moves were okay, but afterwards it just
didn't make any move that I thought was particularly good (okay, it did
make a couple of those moves that you obviously have to make, but it
never found any active or tactical ideas and kept on losing pieces).

The game speed was nearly acceptable (but I do have a very fast
computer, so it is probably still pretty slow with anyone with less than
3GHz or so).

A couple of suggestions on how to improve the enjoyment of the game for
the users:
* let the program resign when its position is totally hopeless (e.g.
when it's down by a queen and some other pieces), it was annoyingly slow
in making its moves at that stage
* get rid of the sound effects
* stop that user profile page from popping up all the time
* offer a pgn version of played games (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pgn and
http://www.very-best.de/pgn-spec.htm if you don't know what that is)

1600 my ass.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Nc3 Nxc3 5. dxc3 Nc6 6. O-O Bd6 7.
Ng5 O-O 8.Qh5 h6 9. Nxf7 Rxf7 10. Bxf7+ Kh7 11. Bxh6 g6 12. Qxg6+ *

And I suppose it resigned - it bounced me to the startup screen rather
than play 12 ... Kh8 13.Qg7# (or, the way this game plays, 13. ... Kxg7
14.Bxg7).

In article
,
Ron wrote:

1600 my ass.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Nc3 Nxc3 5. dxc3 Nc6 6. O-O Bd6 7.
Ng5 O-O 8.Qh5 h6 9. Nxf7 Rxf7 10. Bxf7+ Kh7 11. Bxh6 g6 12. Qxg6+ *

And I suppose it resigned - it bounced me to the startup screen rather
than play 12 ... Kh8 13.Qg7# (or, the way this game plays, 13. ... Kxg7
14.Bxg7).

Let me say this again.

1600 my ass.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.dxe5 Bb4+? 6.c3 Bc5 7.Qd5 Bxf2+
8.Ke2.

And now the program seems to have frozen up. Ten or so minutes on this
position where there's only one halfway reasonable move.

(Of course, 8. ... 0-0 9.Qxe4 Bb6 10.Ng5 g6 is winning for white,
anyway.)

Oh, wait! He moved. He'd rather be down two pieces than one!

8.... Nxc3+ 9.Nxc3 Qe7 (after a several-minute think) 10.Kxf2

I love it when the computer talks smack from a completely busted
position.

10 ... d6 11.ed c6 (wow - first time since move four that it's move in
the required time.) 12.Bg5 f6 13.Re1+ Ne5 14.Nxe5 15.Rxe5 Qxe5? (the
computer can't see a mate in four of all checks - Sanny, you might want
to work on that - I would expect a 1000-rated player to see that Qxe5 is
forced mate) 16.Qf7+ Kd8 17.Re1+

And the computer resigned.

-Ron

In article
,
Ron wrote:

Let me say this again.

1600 my ass.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.dxe5 Bb4+? 6.c3 Bc5 7.Qd5 Bxf2+
8.Ke2.

And now the program seems to have frozen up. Ten or so minutes on this
position where there's only one halfway reasonable move.

(Of course, 8. ... 0-0 9.Qxe4 Bb6 10.Ng5 g6 is winning for white,
anyway.)

Oh, wait! He moved. He'd rather be down two pieces than one!

8.... Nxc3+ 9.Nxc3 Qe7 (after a several-minute think) 10.Kxf2

I love it when the computer talks smack from a completely busted
position.

10 ... d6 11.ed c6 (wow - first time since move four that it's move in
the required time.) 12.Bg5 f6 13.Re1+ Ne5 14.Nxe5 15.Rxe5 Qxe5? (the
computer can't see a mate in four of all checks - Sanny, you might want
to work on that - I would expect a 1000-rated player to see that Qxe5 is
forced mate) 16.Qf7+ Kd8 17.Re1+

And the computer resigned.

Typo. The computer's 11th move was cd, not c6. Sorry about that.

Sanny wrote:

When I move up a level, I soon begin to notice that
I am slowly aging, and while I wait for the program
to make its next move, I ponder the meaning of life,
calculate the distance from Earth to the Sun, and
retranslate Fischer's MSMG into algebraic notation.
;D


20 minutes back the Game was dramatically Improved. And I feel it will
be a great Challenge to play with Beginner & Easy Levels for most
players.

Play a game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

While Nomorechess will be happy with Normal Level


Sanny, my comments ragarding the slowness of
your program are not to be taken seriously. As I
have noted before, the program seems to frequently
lose ground on my computer, going deeper, then
shallower, then deeper, then shallower again, most
likely due to an inconsistent internet connection.
All this results in a huge loss of time, since the
program appears to be "re-analysing" more than it is
analysing any given position. This too, is why I cannot
seem to finish a game against the higher levels
anymore.


-- help bot


PS: it's now 93,102,411.72 miles away!

Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
On 2006-10-14, Sanny wrote:
RECENTLY the Game has been improved and its ratings will be very good.

Play a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Now it plays in Time it Shows

Beginner Level: 10-20 Seconds/move (1600)
Easy Level: 20-30 Seconds/move (1700)

Move 4 on Easy level, and I've already waited more than 15
minutes... ah, it moved: 15:30.

Only 7 minutes for move 5.

Still nowhere near the claimed times.

Watching the screen as the program analyses, does
it seem to lose ground on your machine, going deeper,
then shallower, then deeper again?

I wonder how much of my difficulties are due to my
wireless connection, and how much due to the Java
applet.

-- help bot

Bjoern wrote:

A couple of suggestions on how to improve the enjoyment of the game for
the users:
* let the program resign when its position is totally hopeless (e.g.
when it's down by a queen and some other pieces), it was annoyingly slow
in making its moves at that stage
* get rid of the sound effects


Noooooooo! I *need* the sound to inform me when
the program (FINALLY!) makes its move. Let those
who are bothered by the sounds turn simply their volume
down. On my computer, this takes about two seconds.


* stop that user profile page from popping up all the time

Right.


-- help bot

help bot wrote:
Bjoern wrote:


A couple of suggestions on how to improve the enjoyment of the game for
the users:
* let the program resign when its position is totally hopeless (e.g.
when it's down by a queen and some other pieces), it was annoyingly slow
in making its moves at that stage
* get rid of the sound effects



Noooooooo! I *need* the sound to inform me when
the program (FINALLY!) makes its move. Let those
who are bothered by the sounds turn simply their volume
down. On my computer, this takes about two seconds.

Mmh, I guess there is that use for it. Maybe one could turn it into a
less embarassingly silly sound?

Having just finished a game with the master level, I must say that it is
useful for getting a notification about a new move while doing other stuff.

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...027&game=Chess

As far as I can tell the master level is in no way stronger than the
beginner level just much, muuuuuuuch slower. It just passively sat back
after giving me the pair of bishops and the centre. Strategically blind,
while the tactical skills were hardly impressive either.

I haven't played anyone this weak in ages, I have had the occasional
rated game with 1600s in the last two years and they were usually
tougher than this. There was one 1300ish player I played two years ago
and that felt about like it feels to play the master level, however the
1300 did keep to the time limit and made his moves at an acceptable pace.