Mike Murray wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 22:32:16 -0700, wrote:


Zero wrote:
Since Kramnik is the world chess champion, does that mean that he is a
genius and have a high IQ? Could he be a member of Mensa ?


Mensa is what? 130+? I think Kramnik, like most other grandmasters, can
get 2 Mensa memberships, if you can figure out what i mean.

Actually, they don't get two memberships, they get one double-lifetime
membership.


Helpful for Hindus like Anand, or if your life is a blitz.

wrote:

Sure you are not stupid, but 130 times 2 is still 260 not 230.

Short test...

What is twice the volume of 100 db?

What is twice the strength of an 7 earthquake?

If a tornado is rated as 4, what is the rating of a tornado that is
twice as much?

And finally, what is the IQ of someone that is twice as smart as 130?

help bot wrote:
"... But there
are those few who have a special talent for one thing,
and far from being all-around geniuses, these people
are often termed idiot-savants. I don't see any reason
an idiot-savant could not be "trained" to perform well
on a standard IQ test, provided he is not truly an
idiot...."
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Would't happen. Idiot savants are idiots with one highly specialized
mental gift. There has never been an idiot savant in chess.

Old Haasie (semi-retired idiot and former Mensa member)

wrote:
Mike Murray wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 22:32:16 -0700, wrote:


Zero wrote:
Since Kramnik is the world chess champion, does that mean that he is a
genius and have a high IQ? Could he be a member of Mensa ?


Mensa is what? 130+? I think Kramnik, like most other grandmasters, can
get 2 Mensa memberships, if you can figure out what i mean.

Actually, they don't get two memberships, they get one double-lifetime
membership.


Helpful for Hindus like Anand, or if your life is a blitz.


Just the other day, I saw an ad for a re-incarnation seminar. At first,
I was taken aback by its price - $3,000 bucks! - but then I said to
myself:

- What the hell! It's worth it. You live only once.

Kenneth wrote:
It is well known that chess ability and IQ, are not related. As to whether
Kramnik has a high IQ or not, only an IQ test can tell.

--
Kenneth
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I think the relationship between chess playing ability and IQ is
somewhat related... but not perfectly related. I've met many players
rated 2200 and up; all of them would easily exceed 100 on standard IQ
tests.

Old Haasie

wrote:
"The Levitt
Equation". This formula calculates an Elo rating which expresses
one's potential chess strength (talent) as being equal to ten times
one's IQ, plus 1000 points. Thus, he claims that Bobby Fischer
once scored 187 on an IQ test so, applying The Levitt Equation,
Bobby's potential chess strength would be equal to a rating of
about 2870 if he reached his peak talent. (187 x 10 = 1870 + 1000
= 2870)"
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Umm... I took my rating of 1954 and solved it for IQ. It came out to
94.5.
Would Levitt claim all 1900 level players are slightly below average in
IQ?

Old Haasie

On 14 Oct 2006 15:23:06 -0700, wrote:

Kenneth wrote:
It is well known that chess ability and IQ, are not related.

It is? Could you please remind us of the evidence that you base such an
absurd statement on, genius?

To be more precise, there is no credible evidence that skill in chess is
related causally to IQ. In fact there is really no convincing evidence
that IQ is related causally to anything at all except perhaps the
ability to do well on IQ tests.

wrote:
wrote:
"The Levitt
Equation". This formula calculates an Elo rating which expresses
one's potential chess strength (talent) as being equal to ten times
one's IQ, plus 1000 points. Thus, he claims that Bobby Fischer
once scored 187 on an IQ test so, applying The Levitt Equation,
Bobby's potential chess strength would be equal to a rating of
about 2870 if he reached his peak talent. (187 x 10 = 1870 + 1000
= 2870)"
======================
Umm... I took my rating of 1954 and solved it for IQ. It came out to
94.5.
Would Levitt claim all 1900 level players are slightly below average in
IQ?


If you play full time - yes, he would. Otherwise - no. However, I fail
to imagine a person with a 2-digit IQ who would want to devote his life
to chess, except for Danailov of course.

Using this formula, my own IQ doesn't look good either.

Computer will always play with same IQ Level.

So if a person gets higher ratings in Chess it is clear idea he is more
intelligent, Has better brains than those who fail to win.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Here Nomorechess is on Top showing he is much intelligent than others.

Taylor Kingston 2300+ Rating is Second So he too is Intelligent

Bob Ranks Third So he is betterthan other 100 Players who are unable to
reach in Top Three.

So I feel IQ can be easily tested using Chess.

But I think IQ testing techniques are useless.

A person in Africa can never tell about Streets in Japan, Simmilarly a
person in Japan can never tell about cities in Africa.

So IQ should be tested depending on occupation and region the person
lives in.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

The Levitt equation is a lot of BS. Akiba Rubenstein, one of this centuries
strongest GMs, was close to being mentally retarded. Most GMs are of just
normal intelligence, while a few are, exceptionally bright.

--
Kenneth
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wrote:
wrote:
"The Levitt
Equation". This formula calculates an Elo rating which expresses
one's potential chess strength (talent) as being equal to ten times
one's IQ, plus 1000 points. Thus, he claims that Bobby Fischer
once scored 187 on an IQ test so, applying The Levitt Equation,
Bobby's potential chess strength would be equal to a rating of
about 2870 if he reached his peak talent. (187 x 10 = 1870 + 1000
= 2870)"
======================
Umm... I took my rating of 1954 and solved it for IQ. It came out to
94.5.
Would Levitt claim all 1900 level players are slightly below average in
IQ?


If you play full time - yes, he would. Otherwise - no. However, I fail
to imagine a person with a 2-digit IQ who would want to devote his life
to chess, except for Danailov of course.

Using this formula, my own IQ doesn't look good either.