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Old October 26th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Jud McCranie
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On 25 Oct 2006 15:27:01 -0700, "Zero" wrote:

But what I don't understand is how he did it? You can't just put a
computer in a hat and also how


There was a Mission Impossible episode in which this was done. Rolin
had a earpiece that looked like a hearing aid, but it was really a
radio receiver. Barney put the moves into a computer and radioed the
best move to Rolin. Rolin won, but people got suspicious after Rolin
took the hearing aid out, but could still hear. But this was part of
the plan.
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Old October 26th 06, 01:56 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Taylor Kingston
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On Oct 25, 9:52 pm, Jud McCranie
wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 15:27:01 -0700, "Zero" wrote:

But what I don't understand is how he did it? You can't just put a
computer in a hat and also how


There was a Mission Impossible episode in which this was done. Rolin
had a earpiece that looked like a hearing aid, but it was really a
radio receiver. Barney put the moves into a computer and radioed the
best move to Rolin.


Just like the real-life Clement Allwermann affair in Germany a few
years ago (see http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans32.txt). Allwermann, a
middle-aged 1900-player, suddenly had about a 2600 TPR in a major open,
defeating several titled players. Turned out he had a keypad in his
jacket, on which he tapped out moves in code to an accomplice in a
hotel room. The accomplice fed the moves into a computer running Fritz,
then radioed back to Allwermann through an earpiece hidden under his
ample head of hair.

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Old October 27th 06, 07:03 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Ralf Callenberg
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Hello,

Just like the real-life Clement Allwermann affair in Germany a few
years ago (see http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans32.txt). Allwermann, a
middle-aged 1900-player, suddenly had about a 2600 TPR in a major open,
defeating several titled players. Turned out he had a keypad in his
jacket, on which he tapped out moves in code to an accomplice in a
hotel room. The accomplice fed the moves into a computer running Fritz,
then radioed back to Allwermann through an earpiece hidden under his
ample head of hair.


That has been indeed a big topic in the German chess scene, if you just
mention the name "Allwermann" to any German tournament player, he knows
what you are talking about. One final detail: in the last round he had
beaten Kalinichev. When the GM resigned, Allwermann said it would be
mate in eight anyway. The GM only smiled to this announcement.
Allwermann got a bit angry about it and shouted: "Don't laugh, check it
out!" Of course he was right. Later this game was shown to some world
class players including Anand, and they laughed about such an
announcement, as it is nearly impossible for a human player to find such
a thing over the board.

Greetings,
Ralf
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Old October 27th 06, 11:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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as it is nearly impossible for a human player to find such
a thing over the board.

Greetings,
Ralf


Wait a minute. Wasn't Capablanca able to do that? Even Botvinnik
admitted that Capa's powers of calculation were phenomenal.

EZoto
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Old October 28th 06, 12:40 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Taylor Kingston
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On Oct 27, 2:03 am, Ralf Callenberg wrote:
Hello,

Just like the real-life Clement Allwermann affair in Germany a few
years ago (seehttp://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans32.txt). Allwermann, a
middle-aged 1900-player, suddenly had about a 2600 TPR in a major open,
defeating several titled players. Turned out he had a keypad in his
jacket, on which he tapped out moves in code to an accomplice in a
hotel room. The accomplice fed the moves into a computer running Fritz,
then radioed back to Allwermann through an earpiece hidden under his
ample head of hair.


That has been indeed a big topic in the German chess scene, if you just
mention the name "Allwermann" to any German tournament player, he knows
what you are talking about. One final detail: in the last round he had
beaten Kalinichev. When the GM resigned, Allwermann said it would be
mate in eight anyway. The GM only smiled to this announcement.
Allwermann got a bit angry about it and shouted: "Don't laugh, check it
out!" Of course he was right. Later this game was shown to some world
class players including Anand, and they laughed about such an
announcement, as it is nearly impossible for a human player to find such
a thing over the board.


Yes, I believe it was his announcement of mate that first brought
suspicion onto him. He should have kept his mouth shut if he knew what
was good for him.

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Old October 30th 06, 11:22 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
David Richerby
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EZoto wrote:
as it is nearly impossible for a human player to find such a thing
over the board.


Wait a minute. Wasn't Capablanca able to do that?


Capablanca's dead, baby. Capablanca's dead.

Sometimes, mates in eight are fairly obvious -- say because it's
effectively mate in three but the loser can keep making suicidal
interpositions to delay the inevitable. In this case, though, the
mate is by no means obvious: my copy of Fritz 8 takes a couple of
minutes to find a mate in 12. (I think it's interesting that Hans Ree
claimed in 1999 that `computers find this in a second'[1]: mine
certainly doesn't and, while it's not so hot by modern standards, it's
a hell of a lot faster than a 1999-vintage machine. My guess is that
Ree's computer found a mate in eight fairly quickly but that there is
actually a defence to it.q)

The game is at

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1408315

The final position is

6rk/3Q3p/p2p1R2/8/2P1q1N1/1P5K/P6P/5R2 b - - 0 41


Dave.

[1] http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans32.txt

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