Looking for factual information on the following tournaments:

London 1851
Berlin 1881
Vienna 1882
New York 1924
Moscow 1925 & 1935
Nottingham 1936
Bled 1961
USSR Championship 1973
Montreal 1979
Brussels 1987

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

On Nov 3, 7:53 am, wrote:
Looking for factual information on the following tournaments:

London 1851
Berlin 1881
Vienna 1882
New York 1924
Moscow 1925 & 1935
Nottingham 1936
Bled 1961
USSR Championship 1973
Montreal 1979
Brussels 1987

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Can you be more specific? Do you want to know the winners, the
standings, the dates, the number of players, the prize fund, full
crosstables, or what?

Any information at all would be helpful. I'm working on expanding from
a strictly forum-based website to a complete chess website.

Here is a link to a test page on the 1851 London tournament. I have
not yet added the PGN viewer to play through the tournament games.

http://www.rookhouse.com/events/london1851.html

Thanks



Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Nov 3, 7:53 am, wrote:
Looking for factual information on the following tournaments:

London 1851
Berlin 1881
Vienna 1882
New York 1924
Moscow 1925 & 1935
Nottingham 1936
Bled 1961
USSR Championship 1973
Montreal 1979
Brussels 1987

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Can you be more specific? Do you want to know the winners, the
standings, the dates, the number of players, the prize fund, full
crosstables, or what?

On Nov 3, 9:00 am, wrote:
Any information at all would be helpful. I'm working on expanding from
a strictly forum-based website to a complete chess website.

May I give you a word of advice? If you want factually accurate
information, do not try to get it from internet sources. And trying to
get it by asking on newsgroups is even worse. Therefore I recommend you
get some reliable written sources.
I would suggest obtaining any or all of:

Jeremy Gaige's 4-volume set "Chess Tournament Crosstables," which
covers tournaments from 1851 through 1930.
"Chess Results, 1747-1900" and "Chess Results, 1901-1920" by Gino di
Felice. These contain both tournament and match data. The first
volume's match data is highly inaccurate, however.
"The Complete Book of Chess Tournament Crosstables -- Vol. 1
1851-1948" by Rick Melton. Deceptively titled -- this book is
"complete" like a rowboat is a battleship -- but it does have many of
the major events.
"Chess: The Records" by Ken Whyld. A wealth of chess statistics:
major tournaments and matches, Olympiad results, national
championships, etc.

If you have any ChessBase databases from the last few years, you
should be able to use the "crosstable" feature to get complete tables
for any events on the database. These may not be as accurate as, say,
Gaige's tables, but they're generally good. And it's one of the few
practical ways to get lots of tables for post-1930 events.

Great!! Thank you very much for the tips. That's exactly what I was
looking for.


Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Nov 3, 9:00 am, wrote:
Any information at all would be helpful. I'm working on expanding from
a strictly forum-based website to a complete chess website.

May I give you a word of advice? If you want factually accurate
information, do not try to get it from internet sources. And trying to
get it by asking on newsgroups is even worse. Therefore I recommend you
get some reliable written sources.
I would suggest obtaining any or all of:

Jeremy Gaige's 4-volume set "Chess Tournament Crosstables," which
covers tournaments from 1851 through 1930.
"Chess Results, 1747-1900" and "Chess Results, 1901-1920" by Gino di
Felice. These contain both tournament and match data. The first
volume's match data is highly inaccurate, however.
"The Complete Book of Chess Tournament Crosstables -- Vol. 1
1851-1948" by Rick Melton. Deceptively titled -- this book is
"complete" like a rowboat is a battleship -- but it does have many of
the major events.
"Chess: The Records" by Ken Whyld. A wealth of chess statistics:
major tournaments and matches, Olympiad results, national
championships, etc.

If you have any ChessBase databases from the last few years, you
should be able to use the "crosstable" feature to get complete tables
for any events on the database. These may not be as accurate as, say,
Gaige's tables, but they're generally good. And it's one of the few
practical ways to get lots of tables for post-1930 events.

On Nov 3, 7:53 am, wrote:
Looking for factual information on the following tournaments:

London 1851
Berlin 1881
Vienna 1882
New York 1924
Moscow 1925 & 1935
Nottingham 1936
Bled 1961
USSR Championship 1973
Montreal 1979
Brussels 1987

BTW, another source that has all but four of these events, 50
tournaments in all, is the ChessBase CD "The Greatest Tournaments in
the History of Chess 1851-1986." On the whole, I did not think well of
this CD (see www.chesscafe.com/text/review435.pdf), but it does have
the basic info: dates, players, standings, crosstables, all the games,
etc. Still, you're better off just getting a full ChessBase database
and using its crosstable feature and others to gather the data you
want, because you get millions of games instead of just thousands for
about the same price. I'm not sure, but I would imagine that it's easy
to transfer the CB tables to html.
For USSR Championships, the best English source I know of is "The
Soviet Championships" by Cafferty and Taimanov (Cadogan, 1998).