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Old December 25th 06, 11:07 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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Default Outrageous Announcement of the US Champiobnship

At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan

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Old December 25th 06, 11:11 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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samsloan wrote:
At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan



Goichberg should step down immediately and I should be the next USCF
President. You must vote for me for another 4 years!

Sam Sloan

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Old December 26th 06, 08:14 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Outrageous Announcement of the US Champiobnship

Pardon the topposting...the below was posted by "samsloan" on the USCF
Issues Forum at 5:04 p.m. A crossposting appeared on this forum (rgcp)
by . Hardly surprising....

Note, however, that this was the only 12/25/2006 post by
to this forum.

http://tinyurl.com/ydoae6

The point will follow in another post.... WHB

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samsloan wrote:
At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan


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Old December 26th 06, 09:30 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Xmas postings of "ismailsloan@gmail.com" on rgcp and Sam Sloan on USCF Issues Forum

One can find the 25 December 2006 posts of "
here.

http://tinyurl.com/ye6bu6

I have reproduced summaries of these posts (and in a couple cases, the
entire post) below.

I have interlaced Sam Sloan's posts to the USCF Issues Forum.

Kindly note time and content of the items posted to the two fora.
Please compare 10:53 a.m.(USCF Issues Forum) and 11:05
) posts....

....as well as 5:04 p.m. (USCF Issues Forum), 5:07 p.m.
) and 5:11 p.m. ) posts--post
time should be converted from GMT to EST. But also note versions of
Mozilla used by the gmail posters....

From the beginning, I assumed that (who's been

posting here for a few months) was someone other than Sloan, parodying
Sloan. I see no compelling reason to modify my opinion, but I do find
the timing notable.

BTW, I was at my computerless in-laws' Christmas party from
mid-afternoon till late evening. :-)

***********
PARTIAL/FULL QUOTATIONS OF 12/25/06 FORUM POSTS FOLLOW....
***********

The USCF must get rid of Goichberg and Erik Anderson
It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on the
board has
expressed complete agreement with your handling of this situation. ...
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 11:31 pm by samsloan
) - 2 messages - 1 author

The USCF must get rid of Goichberg and Erik Anderson
It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on
the board has
expressed complete agreement with your handling of this situation.
....
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 11:21 pm by samsloan
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Reply with
quote
ICC-TD Duncan wrote:
chessoffice wrote:

As we have not yet received the proposal from AF4C, how can you say
"This deal will be rejected by everybody?" There is no deal yet, and I
would prefer to see the proposed deal before rejecting it.

Bill Goichberg


Bill seems to be the voice of reason here.

Sam, can you slow down for one second and see what the proposal is
before you "throw the baby out with the bathwater"?

There is quite a bit of money here for the players. You are predicting
the USCF will be broke, so why not let the AF4C pay this prize funds?

Please? Thank you.

Duncan, I appreciate your involvement and your efforts.

However, several of the players have stated that they prefer that there
be no US Championship rather than there be an online US Championship.

Bill's plan has NO SUPPORT from the players. Without the top players,
there can be no meaningful US Championship.

Furthermore, this year is a ZONAL YEAR. The top five this year qualify
for the next stage of the World Championship cycle. We cannot have a
world championship qualification decided by an online knockout
tournament. What if Kamsky and Nakamura get eliminated in an early
round and some patzer qualifies to the World Championship?

Sam Sloan


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: Reply with
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chessoffice wrote:
samsloan wrote:
I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.


There is not yet anything to vote on. Henderson says that AF4C will
be sending USCF a proposal regarding format soon to be considered,
probably within a few weeks.

It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on the
board has expressed complete agreement with your handling of this
situation.

At the board meeting on November 17-18, we gave Bill a deadline of
December 31, 2006 at Midnight to come up with an acceptable deal or,
failing that, to entertain bids from other potential sponsors. December
31 is only six days away and this announced deal is clearly not
acceptable.

The clock is ticking Bill. You have had since February. You have only
six more days to come up with an acceptable deal. Otherwise, your flag
falls.

Sam Sloan

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The real Sam Sloan, please.
Will someone in the know, other than the real and the fake Sam Sloan,
please email
me at the email address of the real Sam Sloan so I can
tell ...
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They're bad for the USCF. Don Schultz and I are forming a new slate
with Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz Marinello to take control of the USCF for
the next 4 years. I need your help. You must elect me for another 4
years. The campaign war has begun. It will be nasty and we'll use any
tactic to defeat the Polgar machine.

Sam Sloan
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Goichberg MUST step down - Sam Sloan for President
I've made a motion to oust Bill Goichberg from the board and his
Presidency.
Goichberg is no long fit to serve. He's been paid under ...
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samsloan wrote:
At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan



Goichberg should step down immediately and I should be the next USCF
President. You must vote for me for another 4 years!

Sam Sloan

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At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan

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Joined: 08 Mar 2004
Posts: 698
Location: Bronx, New York

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:04 pm
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I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan

***

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Szusza and Me: The Whole Story
When one makes assertions, as Innes does, it's good to cite sources.
http://www.world-english.org/english500.htm At least three ...
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Zsuzsa and Me: The Whole Story
samsloan ) I don't know why you would not
just use free chess software like
chess diagrams. It is freeware and if I remember correctly ...
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-- SteveTN wrote:
**Mulfish wrote: Glad to see you're in the Christmas spirit. Can't the

attack dogs at least take Christmas off? Even those who don't celebrate
it otherwise? **

Unless he has unconverted, Sloan is a muslim. He converted to get one
of his wives, or so he says. The story gets more strange after that. --

Happy Days are Here Again !

Many if not most Muslims celebrate Christmas.

Pastor Haji Sam Sloan, Rabbi
***
Big scandal revealed
I've received confidential information that Don Schultz will form a
slate to go
against Polgar and Bauer. He'll team up with Leroy Dubeck and me. ...
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 11:05 am by samsloan
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: Reply with
quote
SteveTN wrote:
Mulfish wrote:
Glad to see you're in the Christmas spirit. Can't the attack dogs at
least take Christmas off? Even those who don't celebrate it otherwise?

Unless he has unconverted, Sloan is a muslim. He converted to get one
of his wives, or so he says. The story gets more strange after that.

Many if not most Muslims celebrate Christmas.

Pastor Haji Sam Sloan, Rabbi

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Joined: 08 Mar 2004
Posts: 698
Location: Bronx, New York

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: Reply with
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Randy Bauer wrote:
samsloan wrote:
billbrock wrote:
Quote: [s/b ascribed to someone else--WHB 12/26/06]
Does anyone besides me get a whiff of an attempted takeover of the
USCF, when reading the posts referenced below?

The downsizing & move to Crossville has put USCF on a much sounder
footing financially.

Famous Lost Words. How does financial expert Bill Brock explain the
$300,000 the USCF has lost so far this year?

How will we get out of this hole? What measures must be taken?

Sam Sloan


As Sam should know, the $300,000 figure isn't an "apples to oranges"
comparison of the USCF's financial performance to date. In that
calculation (based on accrual accounting), future year revenues were
deferred, but previous years revenues that should have been attributed
to the current fiscal year were not included. Bill Hall picked up on
this error at the end of last week and reported it in an email sent to
members of the EB as well as the Finance Committee. I believe the
office has done a recalculation, which suggests a signficantly
different picture through November. As Bill Goichberg has already
pointed out, the membership numbers for the second quarter were very
strong.

Happy Days are Here Again !
***

Merry Christmas
Whatever your beliefs are, I'm wishing you all the merriest Christmas
and most prosperous New Year ever! ^*%#&*#%! I'm Muslim. ...
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 10:46 am by samsloan
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote
billbrock wrote:
Quote: [s/b ascribed to someone else--WHB 12/26/06]
Does anyone besides me get a whiff of an attempted takeover of the
USCF, when reading the posts referenced below?

The downsizing & move to Crossville has put USCF on a much sounder
footing financially.

Famous Lost Words. How does financial expert Bill Brock explain the
$300,000 the USCF has lost so far this year?

How will we get out of this hole? What measures must be taken?

Sam Sloan

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: Reply with quote
I vote no on this one. I do not think that this is a good idea.

Board members are already reluctant to say anything that will be
BINFOED. The result of this plan, if it passes, is that the Board will
classify almost everything as confidential, which means that nobody on
the outside world will get to know anything.

This would also enable board members to use BINFOS to campaign for
re-election, which will give them an advantage over non-board members.

Sam Sloan

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: Reply with quote
I vote not to touch his rating and let us see how the rating system
handles this.

There are bound to be plenty of cases like this. We will just not know
about the others.

Howell's rating was artificially jacked up. Necessary because he was
playing in a GM Norm tournament.

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12771831

However, we want to see what the rating system does with a normally
rated player.

Sam Sloan

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Old December 26th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Rob
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Default Xmas postings of "ismailsloan@gmail.com" on rgcp and Sam Sloan on USCF Issues Forum

Please pardon the top posting.
I assumed the same. There is a fake and a real Sam Sloan posting.If
such is not the case, I wish it would cease. I have a method to get the
real Sam's posts filtered so we can read what he really says.


wrote:
One can find the 25 December 2006 posts of "
here.

http://tinyurl.com/ye6bu6

I have reproduced summaries of these posts (and in a couple cases, the
entire post) below.

I have interlaced Sam Sloan's posts to the USCF Issues Forum.

Kindly note time and content of the items posted to the two fora.
Please compare 10:53 a.m.(USCF Issues Forum) and 11:05
) posts....

...as well as 5:04 p.m. (USCF Issues Forum), 5:07 p.m.
) and 5:11 p.m. ) posts--post
time should be converted from GMT to EST. But also note versions of
Mozilla used by the gmail posters....

From the beginning, I assumed that (who's been

posting here for a few months) was someone other than Sloan, parodying
Sloan. I see no compelling reason to modify my opinion, but I do find
the timing notable.

BTW, I was at my computerless in-laws' Christmas party from
mid-afternoon till late evening. :-)

***********
PARTIAL/FULL QUOTATIONS OF 12/25/06 FORUM POSTS FOLLOW....
***********

The USCF must get rid of Goichberg and Erik Anderson
It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on the
board has
expressed complete agreement with your handling of this situation. ...
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 11:31 pm by samsloan
) - 2 messages - 1 author

The USCF must get rid of Goichberg and Erik Anderson
It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on
the board has
expressed complete agreement with your handling of this situation.
...
rec.games.chess.politics - Dec 25, 11:21 pm by samsloan
) - 2 messages - 1 author


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Reply with
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ICC-TD Duncan wrote:
chessoffice wrote:

As we have not yet received the proposal from AF4C, how can you say
"This deal will be rejected by everybody?" There is no deal yet, and I
would prefer to see the proposed deal before rejecting it.

Bill Goichberg


Bill seems to be the voice of reason here.

Sam, can you slow down for one second and see what the proposal is
before you "throw the baby out with the bathwater"?

There is quite a bit of money here for the players. You are predicting
the USCF will be broke, so why not let the AF4C pay this prize funds?

Please? Thank you.

Duncan, I appreciate your involvement and your efforts.

However, several of the players have stated that they prefer that there
be no US Championship rather than there be an online US Championship.

Bill's plan has NO SUPPORT from the players. Without the top players,
there can be no meaningful US Championship.

Furthermore, this year is a ZONAL YEAR. The top five this year qualify
for the next stage of the World Championship cycle. We cannot have a
world championship qualification decided by an online knockout
tournament. What if Kamsky and Nakamura get eliminated in an early
round and some patzer qualifies to the World Championship?

Sam Sloan


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: Reply with
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samsloan wrote:
I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.


There is not yet anything to vote on. Henderson says that AF4C will
be sending USCF a proposal regarding format soon to be considered,
probably within a few weeks.

It had better be a lot sooner than a few weeks from now. Nobody on the
board has expressed complete agreement with your handling of this
situation.

At the board meeting on November 17-18, we gave Bill a deadline of
December 31, 2006 at Midnight to come up with an acceptable deal or,
failing that, to entertain bids from other potential sponsors. December
31 is only six days away and this announced deal is clearly not
acceptable.

The clock is ticking Bill. You have had since February. You have only
six more days to come up with an acceptable deal. Otherwise, your flag
falls.

Sam Sloan

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The real Sam Sloan, please.
Will someone in the know, other than the real and the fake Sam Sloan,
please email
me at the email address of the real Sam Sloan so I can
tell ...
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They're bad for the USCF. Don Schultz and I are forming a new slate
with Leroy Dubeck, Beatriz Marinello to take control of the USCF for
the next 4 years. I need your help. You must elect me for another 4
years. The campaign war has begun. It will be nasty and we'll use any
tactic to defeat the Polgar machine.

Sam Sloan
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Goichberg MUST step down - Sam Sloan for President
I've made a motion to oust Bill Goichberg from the board and his
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samsloan wrote:
At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan



Goichberg should step down immediately and I should be the next USCF
President. You must vote for me for another 4 years!

Sam Sloan

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At 02:30 PM 12/25/2006 EST, wrote:

I spoke to John Henderson today, and he said that the US Championship will probably begin in May, rather than March as earlier announced. I am glad to hear this, as March has become very short notice for the players, and now we can tell them they can make other commitments for March and April without worrying about conflict with the Championship.


Duncan Oxley of ICC has announced that the State Champions qualifier will be played on ICC in late February and early March. Henderson said that the qualifier for the final women's spot would be held on ICC at about the same time.


Henderson also said that he was preparing a proposal regarding format for Erik Anderson, and that he expects to send it to Anderson shortly, hopefully in a few days. If Anderson agrees with the proposal he will send it to USCF for our approval.


It sounds like Anderson wants four regional centers and still wants some matches played online, but has asked Henderson to include some sort of compromise which would enable players who object to online play to avoid it. Also, after the field is reduced to eight players the matches to go from 8 to 2 will probably be played over the board, at a Merrill Lynch office in New York. The final match is still planned for Las Vegas in November and it sounds like (hopefully) four games, not two.


Bill Goichberg


I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan

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I vote NO.

This is absolutely unacceptable.

This is supposed to be the US Championship organized by the USCF. This
is not the ICC Online championship. (Henderson works for ICC.)

No prize money. No dates. Only possibly the final eight play face to
face.

Plus there is the high-handedness of Bill Goichberg in simply
announcing this event, without consulting the other five USCF board
members or the players or the US Championship Committee.

This deal will be rejected by everybody. I think it is time for Bill
Goichberg to step down. Bill is just not up to the job.

Sam Sloan

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-- SteveTN wrote:
**Mulfish wrote: Glad to see you're in the Christmas spirit. Can't the

attack dogs at least take Christmas off? Even those who don't celebrate
it otherwise? **

Unless he has unconverted, Sloan is a muslim. He converted to get one
of his wives, or so he says. The story gets more strange after that. --

Happy Days are Here Again !

Many if not most Muslims celebrate Christmas.

Pastor Haji Sam Sloan, Rabbi
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I've received confidential information that Don Schultz will form a
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SteveTN wrote:
Mulfish wrote:
Glad to see you're in the Christmas spirit. Can't the attack dogs at
least take Christmas off? Even those who don't celebrate it otherwise?

Unless he has unconverted, Sloan is a muslim. He converted to get one
of his wives, or so he says. The story gets more strange after that.

Many if not most Muslims celebrate Christmas.

Pastor Haji Sam Sloan, Rabbi

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Randy Bauer wrote:
samsloan wrote:
billbrock wrote:
Quote: [s/b ascribed to someone else--WHB 12/26/06]
Does anyone besides me get a whiff of an attempted takeover of the
USCF, when reading the posts referenced below?

The downsizing & move to Crossville has put USCF on a much sounder
footing financially.

Famous Lost Words. How does financial expert Bill Brock explain the
$300,000 the USCF has lost so far this year?

How will we get out of this hole? What measures must be taken?

Sam Sloan


As Sam should know, the $300,000 figure isn't an "apples to oranges"
comparison of the USCF's financial performance to date. In that
calculation (based on accrual accounting), future year revenues were
deferred, but previous years revenues that should have been attributed
to the current fiscal year were not included. Bill Hall picked up on
this error at the end of last week and reported it in an email sent to
members of the EB as well as the Finance Committee. I believe the
office has done a recalculation, which suggests a signficantly
different picture through November. As Bill Goichberg has already
pointed out, the membership numbers for the second quarter were very
strong.

Happy Days are Here Again !
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and most prosperous New Year ever! ^*%#&*#%! I'm Muslim. ...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote
billbrock wrote:
Quote: [s/b ascribed to someone else--WHB 12/26/06]
Does anyone besides me get a whiff of an attempted takeover of the
USCF, when reading the posts referenced below?

The downsizing & move to Crossville has put USCF on a much sounder
footing financially.

Famous Lost Words. How does financial expert Bill Brock explain the
$300,000 the USCF has lost so far this year?

How will we get out of this hole? What measures must be taken?

Sam Sloan

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: Reply with quote
I vote no on this one. I do not think that this is a good idea.

Board members are already reluctant to say anything that will be
BINFOED. The result of this plan, if it passes, is that the Board will
classify almost everything as confidential, which means that nobody on
the outside world will get to know anything.

This would also enable board members to use BINFOS to campaign for
re-election, which will give them an advantage over non-board members.

Sam Sloan

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I vote not to touch his rating and let us see how the rating system
handles this.

There are bound to be plenty of cases like this. We will just not know
about the others.

Howell's rating was artificially jacked up. Necessary because he was
playing in a GM Norm tournament.

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12771831

However, we want to see what the rating system does with a normally
rated player.

Sam Sloan


 




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