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"The precise meaning of the term 'consensus history' is still debated
among historians, but the generally accepted definition is that it described a view of American history that emphasized unity of thought, and one that, practiced uncritically, reduced the history of the United States to a chronicle of the exploits of rich and successful white males. (There's hardly anyone else in Daniel Boorstin's trilogy The Americans, for instance, as demonstrated by Peter Charles Hoffer in his book Past Imperfect.) Consensus chess history is likewise a streamlined and bowdlerized chronology, restricting itself to the coming and going of grandmasters, and recycling the same stock of stories each time." http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm |
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In article .com, The
Historian wrote: "The precise meaning of the term 'consensus history' is still debated among historians, but the generally accepted definition is that it described a view of American history that emphasized unity of thought, and one that, practiced uncritically, reduced the history of the United States to a chronicle of the exploits of rich and successful white males. (There's hardly anyone else in Daniel Boorstin's trilogy The Americans, for instance, as demonstrated by Peter Charles Hoffer in his book Past Imperfect.) Consensus chess history is likewise a streamlined and bowdlerized chronology, restricting itself to the coming and going of grandmasters, and recycling the same stock of stories each time." http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm May I say then that this homogeneity of historical treatment is disrupted by the columns and books of Edward Winter? See: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/archives.html He re-examines anecdotes, history, photos and positions to see if the truth is known about them. Glancing at his columns for last year, I see notes in them on: the term ³fianchetto², missing game scores, chess quotations, chess graves, the Rice Gambit, discrepancies in Alekhine's game scores, Showalter and baseball, the first chess computers, the Terrazas mystery, chess signatures, The Pillsbury Family, Sam Loyd and the 15 Puzzle, Books on Fischer, Kasparov, Alekhine and Capablanca. Such a re-examination of the accepted some might find as nitpicking. I do not. With such an abundance of sources, there could not be a better time to look at the past and Winter has a passion for it. I wish the process could pass through a Wikipedia devoted entirely to chess and then something like a handsome twelve-volume chess encyclopedia based on the entries. Yes, I know that electronically it could be kept more up-to-date - still, if in my retirement, I am drinking a late night cup and want to take down from its shelf the volume that treats with the retirement from chess of David Mabbs and Garry Kasparov...why, I should be able to. And Murray's A History of Chess ends with chess in Europe in the 19th Century. Someone has to step forward and write a balanced history of 20th century chess that is not mainly about world championship matches. chiffres |
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The Historian wrote: "The precise meaning of the term 'consensus history' is still debated among historians, but the generally accepted definition is that it described a view of American history that emphasized unity of thought, and one that, practiced uncritically, reduced the history of the United States to a chronicle of the exploits of rich and successful white males. (There's hardly anyone else in Daniel Boorstin's trilogy The Americans, for instance, as demonstrated by Peter Charles Hoffer in his book Past Imperfect.) Why pick on a "white males" focus? I have found that much of what is taught as history is overly concerned with wars and warmongering. Why, in many cases, there is so much space spent on war and conquest, that virtually none is left for other aspects of life. Even the rich, white males could be pinched, barely able to merit a mention, except if they happened to wear a general's stars, preferably on the winning side and in a major clash. Consensus chess history is likewise a streamlined and bowdlerized chronology, restricting itself to the coming and going of grandmasters, and recycling the same stock of stories each time." I noticed this "recycling" too. And things always seem to be slanted to favor the hero of the day, his excuses for ducking elevated to valid reasons, those who ducked him, skewered as miserable cowards, etc. http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm Very interesting reading. However, I was not too impressed by the subject's strength of play, although his reckless style would likely please lowly patzers to a T. Just one example: in one of the games listed, giving up the Queen to derail the attack on Black's King required no Fritzian genius, just the knowledge that the King *is* the most valuable piece on the board. (I believe this insight can be found in any brief summary of the rules of play.) I wonder if writers like Mr. Hilbert are not discouraged by a lack of sales volume? How many will choose to buy a book about an unknown, when they have become accustomed to reading only about the grandmasters and chess openings? Perhaps money is not an issue for the historian types. One other comment I would like to make is that from personal experience I have learned that these "original sources" (which historians are so frequently praised for dutifully studying) are often themselves flawed, containing gross errors of fact. Hence, a citation from the original which purportedly proves that Bobby Fischlinker played 1.h4 vs. Tiger Petroleum could potentially be a typo, or a careless assertion by an editor who quite simply had no clue what he was writing about. Very few readers are sharp enough to spot many of these errors, which tend to get repeated, rendering the false impression of a "consensus" among the copycats. And besides, history is bunk. -- help bot |
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chiffres wrote: May I say then that this homogeneity of historical treatment is disrupted by the columns and books of Edward Winter? See: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/archives.html He re-examines anecdotes, history, photos and positions to see if the truth is known about them. Glancing at his columns for last year, I see notes in them on: the term ³fianchetto², missing game scores, chess quotations, chess graves, the Rice Gambit, discrepancies in Alekhine's game scores, Showalter and baseball, the first chess computers, the Terrazas mystery, chess signatures, The Pillsbury Family, Sam Loyd and the 15 Puzzle, Books on Fischer, Kasparov, Alekhine and Capablanca. Such a re-examination of the accepted some might find as nitpicking. I do not. With such an abundance of sources, there could not be a better time to look at the past and Winter has a passion for it. I wish the process could pass through a Wikipedia devoted entirely to chess and then something like a handsome twelve-volume chess encyclopedia based on the entries. Yes, I know that electronically it could be kept more up-to-date - still, if in my retirement, I am drinking a late night cup and want to take down from its shelf the volume that treats with the retirement from chess of David Mabbs and Garry Kasparov...why, I should be able to. And Murray's A History of Chess ends with chess in Europe in the 19th Century. Someone has to step forward and write a balanced history of 20th century chess that is not mainly about world championship matches. chiffres Excellent points. The Historian, himself (sparing his blushes) is doing excellent work, one might add. Both the original post in this thread, and the review (to which the link which it contains transports one) are excellent, IMO. Mark |
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The Historian wrote: "The precise meaning of the term 'consensus history' is still debated among historians, but the generally accepted definition is that it described a view of American history that emphasized unity of thought, and one that, practiced uncritically, reduced the history of the United States to a chronicle of the exploits of rich and successful white males. (There's hardly anyone else in Daniel Boorstin's trilogy The Americans, for instance, as demonstrated by Peter Charles Hoffer in his book Past Imperfect.) Consensus chess history is likewise a streamlined and bowdlerized chronology, restricting itself to the coming and going of grandmasters, and recycling the same stock of stories each time." http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm History has always been like this. History is written by someones personal perspectives. How do you think George Bush (both of them) will go down in history? It all depends on who is writting the book. Two people can witness the exact same event and percieve it two completely different ways. If you read Bill Clintons memoir book it sounds like he did everything he could to help the US economy. Now read Rush Limbaugh and tell me what he thought Bill Clinton did to the US economy. I always take a 'history' book with a huge grain of salt ![]() J.Lohner 'historical skeptic' |
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Inconnux wrote: The Historian wrote: "The precise meaning of the term 'consensus history' is still debated among historians, but the generally accepted definition is that it described a view of American history that emphasized unity of thought, and one that, practiced uncritically, reduced the history of the United States to a chronicle of the exploits of rich and successful white males. (There's hardly anyone else in Daniel Boorstin's trilogy The Americans, for instance, as demonstrated by Peter Charles Hoffer in his book Past Imperfect.) Consensus chess history is likewise a streamlined and bowdlerized chronology, restricting itself to the coming and going of grandmasters, and recycling the same stock of stories each time." http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm History has always been like this. History is written by someones personal perspectives. How do you think George Bush (both of them) will go down in history? It all depends on who is writting the book. Two people can witness the exact same event and percieve it two completely different ways. If you read Bill Clintons memoir book it sounds like he did everything he could to help the US economy. Now read Rush Limbaugh and tell me what he thought Bill Clinton did to the US economy. I always take a 'history' book with a huge grain of salt ![]() J.Lohner 'historical skeptic' It depends upon the author, as you said, and also on the period under consideration. Alan Bullock is pretty reliable. So, for example, is Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones. M.Houlsby 'skeptical about everything, especially skepticism' |
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