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On Jan 16, 3:41 pm, "Chess One" wrote: "Taylor Kingston" wrote in glegroups.com... Chessville is Phil Innes' baby, not mine -- at least, last I heard, he still called himself their business manager. If he prefers to let the site mislead readers, leaving known errors there as a monument to his own ignorance, indolence and stubbornness, who am I to say him nay? A compulsive abusive, sour loud-mouth out-of-work chess hack? "Out of work"? Heck, Phil, I've had a steady job with the same company for over 25 years. Make very good money at it. That's one reason my disposition is so sweet, except when it comes to suffering fools, something I don't do gladly. I wish you much joy with your Chess Gaffes. |
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Rob wrote: Additionally I found some interesting information concerning Tarrasch and Lasker and their opposing styles and methods of thinking. If you like I would be happy to include a link. http://tinyurl.com/ybejof Rob This page states that A. Alekhine wrote articles on the supremacy of Aryan chess vs Jewish 'defensive' chess. Was this the infamous articles produced for the nazis? J.Lohner ICC + Chessworld.net 'Inconnux' |
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On Jan 16, 6:17 pm, "Inconnux" wrote: Rob wrote: Additionally I found some interesting information concerning Tarrasch and Lasker and their opposing styles and methods of thinking. If you like I would be happy to include a link. http://tinyurl.com/ybejof This page states that A. Alekhine wrote articles on the supremacy of Aryan chess vs Jewish 'defensive' chess. Was this the infamous articles produced for the nazis? Yes. They appeared in six installments in the Pariser Zeitung, a German-language newspaper published in Nazi-occupied Paris, in late March 1941. They were subsequently reprinted in various other German publications, and soon around the world. Whether Alekhine himself actually wrote them, or just consented to put his name to them, or had his name put to them without his consent, remains a subject of research and controversy. For an examination of this issue, I recommend Edward Winter's article "Was Alekhine a Nazi" at www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/alekhine.html . In any event, they led to Alekhine being shunned like a leper by most of the chess world after the war ended. I don't know if the full text of the infamous articles is available online. An English translation of them appeared in the book "The Personality of Chess" by Horowitz and Rothenberg (McMillan Company, New York, 1963). In terms of content, the articles are of course rubbish concocted to serve Nazi propaganda aims. |
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Taylor Kingston wrote: On Jan 16, 6:17 pm, "Inconnux" wrote: Rob wrote: Additionally I found some interesting information concerning Tarrasch and Lasker and their opposing styles and methods of thinking. If you like I would be happy to include a link. http://tinyurl.com/ybejof This page states that A. Alekhine wrote articles on the supremacy of Aryan chess vs Jewish 'defensive' chess. Was this the infamous articles produced for the nazis? Yes. They appeared in six installments in the Pariser Zeitung, a German-language newspaper published in Nazi-occupied Paris, in late March 1941. They were subsequently reprinted in various other German publications, and soon around the world. Whether Alekhine himself actually wrote them, or just consented to put his name to them, or had his name put to them without his consent, remains a subject of research and controversy. For an examination of this issue, I recommend Edward Winter's article "Was Alekhine a Nazi" at www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/alekhine.html . In any event, they led to Alekhine being shunned like a leper by most of the chess world after the war ended. I don't know if the full text of the infamous articles is available online. An English translation of them appeared in the book "The Personality of Chess" by Horowitz and Rothenberg (McMillan Company, New York, 1963). In terms of content, the articles are of course rubbish concocted to serve Nazi propaganda aims. |
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Bah Google groups didn't post my comments :/
I just stated that it wasn't until I purchased 'My best games of chess 1908-1937 - Alexander Alekhine Two volumes bound as one' (Dover edition 1985) that I ever knew that A.Alekhine denied writing those articles. It is truely hard to say whether he did or not. What would any of us do if a tyranical government held our wives? I certainly hope he didn't write them, but articles aside he was a true great and his games are enjoyable to go over to this day. BTW good article by mr Winter. J.Lohner 'Inconnux' |
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Inconnux wrote: Taylor Kingston wrote: On Jan 16, 6:17 pm, "Inconnux" wrote: Rob wrote: Additionally I found some interesting information concerning Tarrasch and Lasker and their opposing styles and methods of thinking. If you like I would be happy to include a link. http://tinyurl.com/ybejof This page states that A. Alekhine wrote articles on the supremacy of Aryan chess vs Jewish 'defensive' chess. Was this the infamous articles produced for the nazis? Yes. They appeared in six installments in the Pariser Zeitung, a German-language newspaper published in Nazi-occupied Paris, in late March 1941. They were subsequently reprinted in various other German publications, and soon around the world. Whether Alekhine himself actually wrote them, or just consented to put his name to them, or had his name put to them without his consent, remains a subject of research and controversy. For an examination of this issue, I recommend Edward Winter's article "Was Alekhine a Nazi" at www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/alekhine.html . In any event, they led to Alekhine being shunned like a leper by most of the chess world after the war ended. I don't know if the full text of the infamous articles is available online. An English translation of them appeared in the book "The Personality of Chess" by Horowitz and Rothenberg (McMillan Company, New York, 1963). In terms of content, the articles are of course rubbish concocted to serve Nazi propaganda aims. Jason, I think a very interesting position is on chess and philosophy. It is an interesting contrast. Rob |
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On Jan 16, 9:32 am, "Rob" wrote: don't. Feed back is fine. But to whine about corrections not being made when you refuse to write to the publication is asinine. Why? Is he required to do Chessville's homework now? Kingston is respected well enough in chess history, and especially, in general chess journalism, to NOT to want to lend his material or name to a project that he sees as substandard. Why don't you verify the accuracy of the information and post it yourself? You have a dog in this fight, Taylor doesn't. He's just pointing out that your dog is awful damn scrawny and unlikely to win. |
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SBD wrote: On Jan 16, 9:32 am, "Rob" wrote: don't. Feed back is fine. But to whine about corrections not being made when you refuse to write to the publication is asinine. .. Why don't you verify the accuracy of the information and post it yourself? You have a dog in this fight, Taylor doesn't. He's just pointing out that your dog is awful damn scrawny and unlikely to win. His Steve, I was commenting on his statement that he had not seen any correction to any material when he has not contacted anyone about it, so far as I know. I was just pointing out how unreasonable it is to complain about a change not occuring when you don't tell the publication. I don't expect Taylor to correct anything for anyone. But it is not very logical to expect that a change under those circumstances. It would be similar to someone commenting about something you had written in a publication and wrote about it somewhere where you had no knowledge of it. Then complaining you didn't correct something. Especially when all they would have had to do would have been to write to the publication to bring it to your attention. So, If he has a complaint or if he wants to correct or comment about something;saying it here will do nothing to effect that. Thanks, Rob |
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Jason, I think a very interesting position is on chess and philosophy. It is an interesting contrast. Rob Yes but I do think its linking of talmudic studies and chess is really stretching it. On the contrasts between lasker and tarrasch, I personally prefer the games of E.Lasker because I find his games far more 'creative'. I personally think Tarrasch's games are boring but that is a personal taste. Do people of Jewish decent excell at chess? sure why not... Most of the Jewish people I know are very intelligent. But then again I would say that as a race Russians have had the most success ![]() |
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Inconnux wrote: Jason, I think a very interesting position is on chess and philosophy. It is an interesting contrast. Rob Yes but I do think its linking of talmudic studies and chess is really stretching it. On the contrasts between lasker and tarrasch, I personally prefer the games of E.Lasker because I find his games far more 'creative'. I personally think Tarrasch's games are boring but that is a personal taste. I agree. I find it interesting to observe others opinions and their use of logical linking. I cannot say there isn't a coorelation. I would tend to take a more generalistic approach. Now I do believe that there is a strong coorelation between mathematical ability and chess. Rob Do people of Jewish decent excell at chess? sure why not... Most of the Jewish people I know are very intelligent. But then again I would say that as a race Russians have had the most success ![]() |
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