These crosstables seems very hard to find ,where to get them ?

Winner(s)
Dallas 1942 US Open H. Steiner + Yanofsky
Syracuse 1943 US Open Horowitz
Venice 1947 Tartakower
Ostende 1956 O'Kelly
Malaga 1963 O'Kelly

Thank you in advance for your help.

On 2 fév, 10:25, "PierreB" wrote:
Thesecrosstablesseems very hard to find ,where to get them ?

Winner(s)
Dallas 1942 US Open H. Steiner + Yanofsky
Syracuse 1943 US Open Horowitz
Venice 1947 Tartakower
Ostende 1956 O'Kelly
Malaga 1963 O'Kelly

Thank you in advance for your help.

Just to remind people that I am still
looking for crosstables of :

Dallas 1942 US Open
Venice 1947
Malaga 1963

Any help would be appreciated
especially most likely sources to find them.

On 27 fév, 13:55, "PierreB" wrote:
On 2 fév, 10:25, "PierreB" wrote:

Thesecrosstablesseems very hard to find ,where to get them ?

Winner(s)
Dallas 1942 US Open H. Steiner + Yanofsky
Syracuse 1943 US Open Horowitz
Venice 1947 Tartakower
Ostende 1956 O'Kelly
Malaga 1963 O'Kelly

Thank you in advance for your help.

Just to remind people that I am still
looking forcrosstablesof :

Dallas 1942 US Open
Venice 1947
Malaga 1963

Any help would be appreciated
especially most likely sources to find them.

I only need now :

Gijon 1950 Rossolimo
Parnu 1955 Keres
Gijon 1956 Larsen
Malaga 1963 OK'elly
Varna 1965 Kavalek

By the way ,are there any good magazines for
the period 1950-1966 that have a lot of crosstables
of international events ?

Thank you for your suggestions.

On Apr 22, 7:22 pm, PierreB wrote:
By the way ,are there any good magazines for
the period 1950-1966 that have a lot of crosstables
of international events ?

In my experience, both The British Chess Magazine and Chess Review
were pretty good during that period. Annual compilations of both are
often available from used-book sellers.

On 22 avr, 19:54, Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:22 pm, PierreB wrote:

By the way ,are there any good magazines for
the period 1950-1966 that have a lot ofcrosstables
of international events ?

In my experience, both The British Chess Magazine and Chess Review
were pretty good during that period. Annual compilations of both are
often available from used-book sellers.

I already have some BCM ,good on tournament reports
but not much crosstables to my taste ,I wonder if Ceskoslovensky Sach
is better.
Chess Review is almost impossible to find for this period.

On Apr 22, 8:20 pm, PierreB wrote:
On 22 avr, 19:54, Taylor Kingston wrote:

On Apr 22, 7:22 pm, PierreB wrote:

By the way ,are there any good magazines for
the period 1950-1966 that have a lot ofcrosstables
of international events ?

In my experience, both The British Chess Magazine and Chess Review
were pretty good during that period. Annual compilations of both are
often available from used-book sellers.

I already have some BCM ,good on tournament reports
but not much crosstables to my taste ,I wonder if Ceskoslovensky Sach
is better.
Chess Review is almost impossible to find for this period.

Another possibility is ChessBase. For many events, their databases
provide crosstables, even if not all games from a given tournament are
on the file.

Taylor Kingston wrote:
Another possibility is ChessBase. For many events, their databases
provide crosstables, even if not all games from a given tournament
are on the file.

My impression is that the crosstable is just generated from the
results in the database. So, if the database doesn't contain all the
games, the crosstable isn't complete, either. Is this incorrect?


Dave.

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On Apr 23, 1:30 pm, David Richerby
wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:

Another possibility is ChessBase. For many events, their databases
provide crosstables, even if not all games from a given tournament
are on the file.

My impression is that the crosstable is just generated from the
results in the database. So, if the database doesn't contain all the
games, the crosstable isn't complete, either. Is this incorrect?

No, I think the crosstables are separate files, so they can be full
and correct even if game scores are missing. Consulting my
MegaDatabase 2005, I have often found full crosstables for events
where the database does not have 100% of the event's games.

Taylor Kingston wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
My impression is that the crosstable is just generated from the
results in the database. So, if the database doesn't contain all
the games, the crosstable isn't complete, either. Is this
incorrect?

No, I think the crosstables are separate files, so they can be full
and correct even if game scores are missing. Consulting my
MegaDatabase 2005, I have often found full crosstables for events
where the database does not have 100% of the event's games.

Oh, OK. I wonder if this is a difference between the full version of
ChessBase and the cut-down one that comes with Fritz. Or maybe I've
only noticed the cases where crosstables are missing games that are
missing in the database.


Dave.

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