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Note that in such a case, the "best play", even in chess, has become probabilistic and psychological. The best move against a Karpov may be different from the best move against a Fischer or a Kasparov or a Kramnik. Best play against Karpov and Kasparov: arrange to play one as White and the other as Black and copy the moves between the two games. Best play against Fischer: put a TV camera next to the board and hope to win by forfeit. Best play against Kramnik: make lots of mate threats and hope he falls for one of them. As such, you should be able to score at least 2/4 against these guys; 3/4 if Kramnik has a bad day. Dave. -- David Richerby Indelible Love Newspaper (TM): it's www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a daily broadsheet that you can share with someone special but it can't be erased! |
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"Good Moves Aren't worth BEANS!" wrote in message news:ryRDh.1111541$1T2.693092@pd7urf2no... Even a master such as myself..... ROFL!! Innes, you senile jackass, how can you keep telling lies like this when everyone knows that you are nowhere near being a master. You never were one. And you're no longer worth the 2044 rating you used to have 12 years ago. Its all true. My real Name is Horace Uralz Hussein Gandalf Innes, my rating has never exceeded 1333 [provisional], I slept out of the ship, kept false musters, and fell asleep during the second dog. I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy, no. The moon landings were a hoax by the international society of undertakers, drunkards and crematorialists. There is also no proof that Canada exists, and I defy /anyone/ to prove it. The best way to learn chess as ani ful no is with one foot in a bucket of water, while silently singing Dixie wearing a coon hat, and squinting through your left eye. All mathematicians are crooks and should be forced to read Rilke. The best sandwich is peanut butter jelly, banana and salami, with chess-melt on rye. [The Wilkes-Barre variation.] I was one of the nuns in the Sound of Music, where I also learned to yodel and later yodelled chess moves across the great glens of Scotland playing against distance shepards. All the above is true and recorded in the Galactic Wikipedia, page 6^6, line 6. Cordially, 'call me H.U.G.H.' Innes |
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On Feb 26, 12:35 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
Even a master such as myself..... ROFL!! Innes, you senile jackass, how can you keep telling lies like this when everyone knows that you are nowhere near being a master. You never were one. And you're no longer worth the 2044 rating you used to have 12 years ago. Its all true. My real Name is Horace Uralz Hussein Gandalf Innes, my rating has never exceeded 1333 [provisional], I slept out of the ship, kept false musters, and fell asleep during the second dog. ------------- What is the term master, but a general descriptor suggesting a certain (limited) "mastery" of the game -- at least such as may be achieved by we lowly humans? The real challenge is in refuting the other charges, those of senility and being a jackass, IMO. Ho, ho! Suppose one were to look to the official record of the creature itself, of Jason Rowe? Would the record, I wonder, indicate a skill so vast as the creature has laid claim, or some, perhaps small disappointment? Is there truth in numbers? What about all those blitz tourneys in which I partook, netting quarters and sometimes a few dollars here and there, but leaving behind no record whatsoever -- do these not count, because they were never recorded for posterity? And what if I happened to invest the proceeds wisely, and the sum grew and grew until it eventually reached the moon? Should this fact be ignored, on account of ignorance of whence the capital had originated? Would I therefore be labeled a thief or a charlatan, whose vast wealth could not be fully retraced back to its original square? The thoughts on chess strength and skill, as considered by children whose own abilities lie in quickness of hand and rapidity of tactical execution, is a shallow pool, betraying the inherent lack of depth and subtlety evinced by the true master of the royal game. But alas -- I was once young and quick-of-hand and sharp of sight! I, too, was once adept at movement to and fro, up and down the board with haste and clumsy -- yet very effective -- threats. Though my heyday came before the advent of "bullet" and joystick and mouse, it nevertheless overlapped at the end to some small degree. But what point is there in denigrating the aged, the slothful, the more *mature* chess player who may now lack brute speed, clever tricks, and a certain skill with the mouse button? It can only serve to show up the weaknesses of youth, the compensatory lack of depth and subtlety which almost invariably plagues their games, and this is a high price for bragging. No, better to remain silent, or to respectfully allow the ratings to paint a more general picture of the scene, without much specific detail, without finely-drawn crows feet, furrowed brows, or blissful, rosy-pink cheeks of youth and inexperience. But, lest I be accused of being one of the ratings-mongers, I will allow for a different approach; one more befitting the character of our informal players and their less-than-stellar official numbers. Indeed, I am all for a careful analysis of a player's actual games in attempting to assess their true strength -- especially my own! For I am convinced that when all is properly accounted for (and you computer-cheaters know what I am talking about), my games will shine all the more, even beyond the limits of my amazingly high ratings and near-perfect results. But enough about me -- [blushes]. What is the verdict as to the actual play of IM Innes, or Jason Repa, or anyone here for that matter? Has anyone undertaken a serious attempt at analysis, or is childish chiding and insults to remain the standard of the day? It wouldn't surprise me -- not one iota. -- help bot |
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[My previous response to Phil's article seems to have disappeared
down Google's Black Hole. -- ANW] In article lmLDh.23$Xe1.14@trndny01, Chess One wrote: Even though there are more chess games than atoms in the universe. We don't know *that*. "Visible" universe perhaps? True. My chess partner an engineer is much worried by the Special Theorum, where is this universe with all its mass? He asks. If this is Einstein's Special Theorum of Relativitum, then I commend unto him and you the assorted works, popular and otherwise, of Eddington, still a great read despite being 70 years or so out of date. [And I'm on the lookout for a copy of Eddington's "Fundamental Theory", but not at the ridiculous prices quoted by Amazon/Abe/etc.] [...] Just to interject a moment, since ordinary citizens may be confused, these are all asides and suppositions to the 2 plain questions, no? Alternate universe questions, not chess answers. [...] But neither answer, answerable, Andy? If you're referring to the "plain" questions of whether chess is finite and whether the proposition that Black wins is unprovable, then you have already had the correct answers in maths, CS, logic and English from DavidR; I have nothing to add to them. If you want answers in physics, metaphysics, religion or Swahili, you need to ask someone else. But if you have other questions about game theory, fire away. -- Andy Walker, School of MathSci., Univ. of Nott'm, UK. |
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Is this retard who goes by the name "help bitch" really 1300? I already knew
the guy had a very low IQ based on the content of his posts, but this is hillarious!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 1. Nomorechess === Help Bot (same people) At: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Help bot is very good player. He plays at GetClub and has top ranking. Since the GetClub Game is new Nomorechess is having low rating. Initially you get 1000 rating. On winning you get +5 or +10 points depending on level you beat. He has beaten more than 100 games and lost only 2 Which is a great Job. If you want to test his gameplay you can play online with nomorechess at GetClub.com. I am sure he will win most of the good players. Except TK, Bob and a few others. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html |
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On Feb 28, 8:00 am, "Sanny" wrote:
Help bot is very good player. He plays at GetClub and has top ranking. Since the GetClub Game is new Nomorechess is having low rating. Initially you get 1000 rating. On winning you get +5 or +10 points depending on level you beat. He has beaten more than 100 games and lost only 2 Which is a great Job. If you want to test his gameplay you can play online with nomorechess at GetClub.com. I am sure he will win most of the good players. Except TK, Bob and a few others. Bye Sanny Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html See? I told ya so! From my limited readings here in the newsgroups, I believe a few of these guys are currently disclaiming any pretense at 2300+-dom, pointing to old age or lack of practice, or some combination of lack of study, old age, AND lack of practice perhaps. Just who is "Bob", anyway? Is he a real player, or just a computer operator that happens to have Chessmaster or Fritz? IM Innes claims to have played several times at GetClub, but under different guises -- to protect the innocent. I think I once saw him talk of losing to me -- yet I have no recall of any such game ever having been played. In fact, I seem to recall having faced only one human opponent on that site, and he just dropped a piece for no reason. What are the odds that this one freak occurrence was the nearly-an-IM, while eating a PB&J sandwich, which dropped onto his lap and distracted him in midgame? Fairly slim. As to my record, I will interject that Sanny has left out any mention of my draws -- though few in number -- which of course are considered as failures of sorts, in view of the program's relative weakness. Those games were eradicated, purged from the record, by virtue of the fact that his Web site allows for no way to score them, and for this I am grateful. But the truth remains that I did draw, as well as lose, to Sanny's program. And, just as with Taylor Kingston, one game had his program declaring victory by way of the resign button (so far as can be deciphered), yet in a very favorable position, and this fluke was corrected, put right by Sanny, for which I am grateful. Far from being embarrassed by these failures, I prefer to see the positive side: the side which points to the fact that no rational human being can accuse me of having obtained my multitude of victories by way of cheating with a Fritz, or a Chessmaster program. No rational being could fail to see the lunacy in maintaining this, while noting my draws and my losses, which are simply inconceivable had I made use of any number of commercial programs. I try to see these failures as proof positive of my humanity, of my mortal weakness which cannot hope to ever grasp the cusp of true perfection, of immortality itself. And what's more, I see it as contrasting my achievement with those of the many wannabes, who would try and fool the whole world by hiding behind a Fritz, pretending to be something they are not, something great and everlasting. I see it as... Sorry, gotta go. Pizza's ready! ;D -- help bot |
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"Jason 911" wrote in message news:_v3Dh.1082478$5R2.386081@pd7urf3no... I am not sure I wish to continue arguing an issue with someone who doesn't know or doesn't care, except to say that my questions remain unanswered. Up to your same old tactics eh ol' geezer? Why don't you tell everyone here why you've cowardly avoided playing rated chess for over ten years? Kids! Lots and lots of kids. And of course living in the least populated area of Europe and preferring alpine mountain climbing, way above the tree line in winter. You don't meet so many chess players on the top of Ben Macdui, though I did meet a troop of SAS up there once. We stared at each other - didn't speak. Your last published rating was barely over 2000. Do you think anyone believes you're worth anything near that now? I know lots of people admit concern, and even mock-distress over some provisional rating. But I have considered it, and all these people seem to be more concerned with ratings than I am. In fact, I suspect they rather obsess about their /own/ rating. You know, if other people ain't so good, then theirs ain't so bad!@ But back to the mountains. If you are a [highland] Scot its a rite-of-passage to climb certain mountains, and also to confront it geist - and MacDui is said to be haunted by the Old Man - [maybe you are interested?] - and this character CONFRONTS you with your FEARS. It is not quite so daft or romantic as it may seem, since to get up there you have to walk over a shoulder 2,000 feet high, then drop 1,000 feet to reclimb to the top - and a 5,000 foot ice climb in mid-winter [ plus climbing out another 1,000 feet] during 6 hours of daylight while the Sun rolls around the horizon and you can see the stars again at 3 in the afternoon, and all above treeline is not the half of it! Quite literally not half. Some old geezer once told me about mountains: "Its not getting up there" he said pointing to the peak, "its getting there and back again." All of that, and the Old Man waiting for the Young Man when he arrives. OTOH, these activities 'build character' and is good practice, and the right order of things! "First practice with sword, then practice with pen." Phil Innes JMR |
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