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Channing and Goichberg will ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum



 
 
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  #11  
Old March 19th 07, 02:03 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Chess One
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum

ON PRE-DENIAL THEORY

continued, including the cut sequence, since what readers read before was
Dr. Blair's selection

Phil Innes
----

7 Ah! And here it is. Neither does Dr. Blair
7 claim anything! But whatever his help was,
7 it seems, was not objective, and therefore
7 it must have been subjective right? Of
7 course - Dr. Blair is not even saying this
7 much, because his tortured language merely
7 says, that he does not claim to have done -
7 which is not the same as 'did not'. ! )

_
My "help" was neither an "objective" nor a
"subjective" "critique" of Sam Sloan's
"biographies". It was not a "critique" of the
"biographies" at all.

***Oh it wasn't? Then, there you have it folks! It was not a critique of
what someone wrote, neither from an objective basis of received standards,
and neither was it a preference to subjective reporting preferred by Dr.
Blair over the original text.

***IT WAS, therefore, SOMETHING ELSE!

7 who can't fess up for any of his own
7 'not objective' actions - [see this post]

_
I am not going to "fess up" to actions that
I did not take.


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Old March 19th 07, 02:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum

On this matter, I think Dr. Blair is completely correct. He has never
posed as an honest broker.

wrote:
BLAIR DENIES

Larry Parr wrote (17 Mar 2007 06:29:25 -0700):
[LouieBlair's] specialty is searching old messages
in the e-graveyard and ignoring those that he
wishes to ignore while posing as an honest broker....

Larry Parr, of course, gives no examples of me
"posing as an honest broker". I do not even know
what he means by such an expression. Until Larry
Parr explains himself on this point, I will content
myself with denying posing as something that I am not."

Louie Blair claims to know not the meaning of
"honest broker," though adding a mincing qualifier.
On the other hand, he denies being what he knows not,
though he is certain that he is not.

Such is our Louie. Screwy? He denies it until
he knows what may be meant by the word.




Louis Blair wrote:
Larry Parr wrote (17 Mar 2007 06:29:25 -0700):

7 ... [LouieBlair's] specialty is searching old messages
7 in the e-graveyard and ignoring those that he wishes
7 to ignore while posing as an honest broker. ...

_
Larry Parr, of course, gives no examples of me "posing
as an honest broker". I do not even know what he means
by such an expression. Until Larry Parr explains himself
on this point, I will content myself with denying posing
as something that I am not.




--
Kenneth Sloan

Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
  #13  
Old March 20th 07, 04:00 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum


GOICHBERG KNOWS BLAIR IS A PHONY

On this matter, I think Dr. Blair is completely correct. He has
never
posed as an honest broker. -- Ken Sloan

Ken Sloan's inability to detect claimed honest
brokerism in Louie Blair's contributions to this forum
is dishonest and intellectually broke.

Louie's oeuvre in its near entirety, as Ken Sloan
well knows, has consisted of dredging up quotations
from past messages that he then compares with those of
current messages. He then poses questions.

This raudeville skit, if it every had any validity,
rested on the assumption that Louie was
searching for quotations in a neutral fashion. If
material surfaced that did not square with his evident
hopes when offering, say, support for -- oh, just as
an example -- NMnot Taylor Kingston, then he would
present those quotations.

If such were not his purpose, then he was acting
as a dishonest broker of old messages. Yet Louie's
few defenders here have, in the past, stated that the
man presented quotations from past messages with
neither fear nor favor. They evidently imagined him
as an honest broker.

Then came the search for messages from two of
NMnot Kingston's fake identities. The claim was made
that these identities praised our NMnot, which was, in
effect, Taylor Kingston praising Taylor Kingston while
using fake screen names.

Louie claimed he could find no such instances.
Hah! Others found several instantly.

Our Louie is a fakester, a dishonest broker.
Bill Goichberg has appointed the man to moderate the
USCF Forum precisely because he knows Louie to be a
cheat and expects him to continue in this vein while
censoring the work of those critical of USCF leadership.

Yours, Larry Parr



Kenneth Sloan wrote:
On this matter, I think Dr. Blair is completely correct. He has never
posed as an honest broker.

wrote:
BLAIR DENIES

Larry Parr wrote (17 Mar 2007 06:29:25 -0700):
[LouieBlair's] specialty is searching old messages
in the e-graveyard and ignoring those that he
wishes to ignore while posing as an honest broker....

Larry Parr, of course, gives no examples of me
"posing as an honest broker". I do not even know
what he means by such an expression. Until Larry
Parr explains himself on this point, I will content
myself with denying posing as something that I am not."

Louie Blair claims to know not the meaning of
"honest broker," though adding a mincing qualifier.
On the other hand, he denies being what he knows not,
though he is certain that he is not.

Such is our Louie. Screwy? He denies it until
he knows what may be meant by the word.




Louis Blair wrote:
Larry Parr wrote (17 Mar 2007 06:29:25 -0700):

7 ... [LouieBlair's] specialty is searching old messages
7 in the e-graveyard and ignoring those that he wishes
7 to ignore while posing as an honest broker. ...

_
Larry Parr, of course, gives no examples of me "posing
as an honest broker". I do not even know what he means
by such an expression. Until Larry Parr explains himself
on this point, I will content myself with denying posing
as something that I am not.




--
Kenneth Sloan

Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/


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Old May 6th 07, 08:01 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum

Larry Parr wrote (19 Mar 2007 20:00:49 -0700):

7 ... Then came the search for messages from two of
7 NMnot Kingston's fake identities. The claim was made
7 that these identities praised our NMnot, which was, in
7 effect, Taylor Kingston praising Taylor Kingston while
7 using fake screen names.
7
7 Louie claimed he could find no such instances.
7 Hah! ...

_
I have not been here in awhile. I just stopped by and noticed
this nonsense. Quite simply, it never happened. I have not
made such a claim. Larry Parr should apologize promptly.

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Old May 6th 07, 10:40 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum

On Mar 18, 2:02 am, "Louis Blair" wrote:
Larry Parr wrote (17 Mar 2007 06:29:25 -0700):

7 ... [LouieBlair's] specialty is searching old messages
7 in the e-graveyard and ignoring those that he wishes
7 to ignore while posing as an honest broker. ...

_
Larry Parr, of course, gives no examples of me "posing
as an honest broker". I do not even know what he means
by such an expression. Until Larry Parr explains himself
on this point, I will content myself with denying posing
as something that I am not.


It is assumed that LB might be able to search for
relevant examples "in the e-graveyard", and nobody
does it better, as the song goes.

What exactly constitutes posing as an honest
broker, you ask? Well, how about pretending to
honestly and fairly present the arguments of both
sides -- as Mr. Blair has so often done in the past
-- and then render a judgment, as if one were a
disinterested broker, judge or arbitrator.

Of course, we all know that here we have the
pot calling the kettle black, for Mr. Parr has very
often posed in much the same way during his
many rants, pretending to be making an honest
attempt to get at the objective truth of some
matter or other, when his real agenda was to
lambaste an adversary or critic.

----

I see these complaints about Mr. Goichberg
as whining, moaning and groaning. Why not do
something about him? If in fact this guy is in
control, is an evil dictator in the USCF, get him
out. All you geniuses who whine and cry need
to get a plan of ACTION together. Nobody likes
to listen to whiners, day in and day out, doing
their thing. ACT. Sanction HIM and his cronies.
Checkmate him already. (Waaah! We can't!
He's a big old bully. Waaaah!)

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Old May 6th 07, 10:50 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Channing and Goichberg ban Sam Sloan from the USCF forum

On Mar 19, 11:00 pm, " wrote:

Our Louie is a fakester, a dishonest broker.
Bill Goichberg has appointed the man to moderate the
USCF Forum precisely because he knows Louie to be a
cheat and expects him to continue in this vein while
censoring the work of those critical of USCF leadership.


Why would anyone suppose that Mr. Blair would
automatically censor postings which were critical
of the USCF's alleged leadership? This seems to
have come from out of the blue.

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Old May 6th 07, 11:06 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On May 6, 2:01 am, Louis Blair wrote:
Larry Parr wrote (19 Mar 2007 20:00:49 -0700):

7 ... Then came the search for messages from two of
7 NMnot Kingston's fake identities. The claim was made
7 that these identities praised our NMnot, which was, in
7 effect, Taylor Kingston praising Taylor Kingston while
7 using fake screen names.
7
7 Louie claimed he could find no such instances.
7 Hah! ...

_
I have not been here in awhile. I just stopped by and noticed
this nonsense. Quite simply, it never happened. I have not
made such a claim. Larry Parr should apologize promptly.


Perhaps Mr. Parr has confounded Mr. Blair for me (or
someone else)? I have asked for substantiation that these
allegedly fake identities were in fact Taylor Kingston, and
it goes without saying that LP was unable to supply any.

I also asked for substantiation that these aforementioned
postings "praised" Mr. Kingston, rather than, say, just
agreeing with him on something. Again, no response from
Mr. Parr except his usual blustering.

My take is that Mr. Parr wishes or needs to feel cheated
by those who do not agree with his opinions, and the
natural result is a distortion of any and all things to suit
this purpose. If TK were to pose as, say, Blunderfish, and
make a posting claiming that "Taylor Kingston is the
greatest chess player of all time", LP would interpret this
in precisely the same way as a random poster appearing to
agree with TK on some insignificant point, by sheer chance.
It's dangerously similar to a persecution complex, IMO.

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