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  #21  
Old April 4th 07, 07:10 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:

[...]



Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)

But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.

"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman

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Old April 4th 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine

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Old April 4th 07, 07:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:34 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine


"Showed me pictures in the gallery
Showed me novels on the shelf
Put my hands across the table
Gave me knowledge of myself.
Showed me visions, showed me nightmares
Gave me dreams that never end
Showed me light out of the tunnel
When there was darkness all around instead."

--Van Morrison


  #24  
Old April 4th 07, 07:42 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:37 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:34 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine


"Showed me pictures in the gallery
Showed me novels on the shelf
Put my hands across the table
Gave me knowledge of myself.
Showed me visions, showed me nightmares
Gave me dreams that never end
Showed me light out of the tunnel
When there was darkness all around instead."

--Van Morrison


"The ghetto prince of gutter poets
Was bounced out of the room"

--Allen Ginsberg / The Clash, "Ghetto Defendant"


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Old April 4th 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:42 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:37 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 1:34 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine


"Showed me pictures in the gallery
Showed me novels on the shelf
Put my hands across the table
Gave me knowledge of myself.
Showed me visions, showed me nightmares
Gave me dreams that never end
Showed me light out of the tunnel
When there was darkness all around instead."


--Van Morrison


"The ghetto prince of gutter poets
Was bounced out of the room"

--Allen Ginsberg / The Clash, "Ghetto Defendant"


And we should not forget the fellow who called himself "Rimbaud in a
leather jacket," whose legend was idolized in France in the late 1970s.

  #26  
Old April 4th 07, 07:47 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:43 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:42 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 1:37 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:34 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine


"Showed me pictures in the gallery
Showed me novels on the shelf
Put my hands across the table
Gave me knowledge of myself.
Showed me visions, showed me nightmares
Gave me dreams that never end
Showed me light out of the tunnel
When there was darkness all around instead."


--Van Morrison


"The ghetto prince of gutter poets
Was bounced out of the room"


--Allen Ginsberg / The Clash, "Ghetto Defendant"


And we should not forget the fellow who called himself "Rimbaud in a
leather jacket," whose legend was idolized in France in the late 1970s.


Hey lookie here! Many more I didn't know of.... : "http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimbaud_and_modern_culture

"O l'Oméga! Rayon violet de Ses Yeux!"

  #27  
Old April 4th 07, 07:48 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Apr 4, 1:43 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:42 pm, wrote:



On Apr 4, 1:37 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:34 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:10 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 1:06 pm, wrote:


On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:


[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.


It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith


"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Verlaine


"Showed me pictures in the gallery
Showed me novels on the shelf
Put my hands across the table
Gave me knowledge of myself.
Showed me visions, showed me nightmares
Gave me dreams that never end
Showed me light out of the tunnel
When there was darkness all around instead."


--Van Morrison


"The ghetto prince of gutter poets
Was bounced out of the room"


--Allen Ginsberg / The Clash, "Ghetto Defendant"


And we should not forget the fellow who called himself "Rimbaud in a
leather jacket," whose legend was idolized in France in the late 1970s.


Hey lookie here! Many more I didn't know of.... : "http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimbaud_and_modern_culture

"O l'Oméga! Rayon violet de Ses Yeux!"

  #28  
Old April 5th 07, 01:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 7:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:

[...]


Surely you blokes also sorted out the anagram of the title? His own for
himself.

It is no mere anagram, it is his own prediction of himself - that he will
become famous and successful, and empty and [artistically] dead. His
friend
Rimbaud took an admittedly radical alternate course.


Once again, you're obsessing too much about a gay couple's rather
melodramatic relationship. Stop projecting ;-)


They weren't any gayer than Yale blokes! Adolescents are sexual, not being
overly particular with whom

Rimbaud took a mistress in Africa - in a very remote place - he said he was
practically the first Westerner there since Sir Richard Burton.

But seriously, thx for coming around (to the extent possible) re
Sloan.


The same possibilities exist for everyone. And if ANY politician so
conspicuously avoided direct questions about their current behavior I would
not only resist listening to their views, I would actually strongly suspect
any such reticence. I just gave Don Schultz a hard-time on a different
issue, and thought his responses were more in the category of avoidance than
answer.

These guys have not allowed any real criticism of their own performance for
a long time. As this does not build character! They make speeches at you and
even think that is interesting, or they are doing you a favor! pfft!

It is not true that members don't care for something real and straight-talk,
as I think the shame-faced board found out after it fired Larry Evans.

HERE IS THE MATTER

In the matter of women and children in chess, it is my opinion that several
current board members would not pass my test - and I think in this instance
the standard needs to be higher than the current minimum [if that can be
called a standard at all] and in the recent candidate-member interview I did
ask specifically of both male and female candidates if they would also
support a form of ombudsman [is that only an English word?] or at least a
select panel of parents and women to advise the board of what most inhibits
their chess lives.

People expressed themselves variously, but I detected no demurrers among
them.

It is also a requirement for any mainstream scholastic futures to sufficient
audit program executives, and attain standards not currently in place. Since
this is the prize-of-all, how fitting to address the subject seriously, and
for all people taking part.

I think the report of any such parent and woman's panel - which would
provide the context for a set of standards - cannot be binding, since
someone must also say that it is 'do-able', and yet by including some such
figure as an ombusman to assess what can be deployed, we would then achieve
a standard to avert what affront can be avoided, and perhaps lay the
foundation stone for even higher aspirations.

Phil Innes

"Do the watusi" -- Patti Smith



  #29  
Old April 5th 07, 02:08 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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"Situations have ended sad,
Relationships have all been bad." -- R. Zimmerman


That was his best album! ["When a child, certain skies sharpened my vision"
/AR]


I remember a Shakespeare scholar asking me at the time what I thought of it,
and I remember replying, 'he doesn't sound 'married' anymore.'

I was maybe 20. A few years later [28?] I met Van Morrison who was putting
interesting stuff to the popular culture at the time, and I asked him if he
knew anyone who had tried Rimbaud verbatim? He didn't know.

Leonard Cohen could maybe have done it 20 years ago. Maybe it would still
go?

AR bit through, as the Ching says. And with words anticipated impressionism,
if a particualrly acute and socially oriented form that slaughtered the
black decay of Empire writing.


--------

Raise your eyes: that arched wooden bridge; those last truck gardens of
Samaria; those faces reddened by the lantern by the cold night; silly Undine
in her noisy dress, down by the river; those luminous skulls among the row
of peas, - and all the other phantasmagoria - the country.

Roads bordered by walls and iron fences that with difficulty hold back
their groves, and frightful flowers probably called loves and doves, Damask
damning languorously, - possessions of magic aristocracies ultra-Rheinish,
Japanese, Guaranian, still qualified to receive ancestral music - and there
are inns that now never open any more, - there are princesses, and if you
are not too overwhelmed, the study of the stars - the sky.

The morning when with Her you struggled among the glittering of snow,
those green lips, those glaciers, black banners and blue beams, and the
purple perfumes of the polar sun, - Your strength.

--------

--Sad-eyed lady of the looooow-lands, no?

Cordially, phil Innes



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Old April 5th 07, 11:22 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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wrote in message
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"The ghetto prince of gutter poets
Was bounced out of the room"


heh! I am completely overwhelmed with chess projects, to make other replies
here, but


Les voix instructive eilées... L'ingénuité physique amèrement rassise...
Adagio. - Ah! Légoisme infini de l'adolescensce, l'opimisme studieux: que le
monde était plein de fleurs été! Les airs er formes mourant... Un chour,
pour calmer 'l'impusissance et l'absence! Un chour de verres, de mélodies
nocturnes... En effect, les nerfs vont vite chasser.


Instructive voices exiled... Physical candor bitterly quelled... -
Adagio Ah! the infinite egotism of adolescence, the studious optimism: how
the world was full of flowers this summer! Airs and forms dying... - A choir
to calm impotence and absence! A choir of glasses, of nocutrnal melodies...
Quickly, indeed, the nerves take up the chase.

Phil Innes

--Allen Ginsberg / The Clash, "Ghetto Defendant"




 




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