Sam Sloan wrote in a Fide newsgroup of which he is moderator that he is to
ban Rob Mitchell from posting in it - this follows challenges to Sloans
truth about the porn at his site. I think everyone should read my own
response in that group. //Phil Innes

--

He invited you to play chess! He gave you his physical address and phone
number. Sam Sloan now pretends he never noticed either the original
invitation or the recent post re-iterating it nor two of mine which averred
who Rob Mitchell is, and as I presume competent witnesses, Boris Gulko,
Susan Polgar, Alex Onischuk and Alex Stripunsky could also tell you.

What a fantastic irony that Mitchell, I, and a few others, thought that the
same behavior was reprehensible in Moderator Blair's Wiki 'action'.

This, you see, is your problem, your massive egotism cannot stand the
slightest challenge to its need to express, neither can you moderate it.

I can certainly make you famous for this stunt, though I doubt in any way
you'd like.

You are a coward, Sloan.

Phil Innes

----- Original Message -----
From: "samhsloan"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: [fide-chess] I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting


I am hereby suspending Rob Mitchell from posting to the FIDE-chess
Yahoo Group. This group has only one rule which is that everybody who
posts to the group must reveal their real name. The publicly posted
rule states: "This group does not allow anonymous postings or postings
under fake names."

It is obvious from his postings today that Rob Mitchell has no
intention of complying with this rule.

I now believe that "Rob Mitchell" is a fake name. I believe that he
selected this name because Rob Mitchell is one of the most common
names with 36 USCF members having the name of either Rob or Robert
Mitchell.

One factor that tipped me off that this is a fake name it the fact
that Rob Mitchell does not post to the USCF Forums although he posts
to every other active chess group. The USCF Forums is the one group
that requires that all members be USCF members. Therefore, the fact
that Rob Mitchell does not go there indicates that he is not a USCF
member.

I know that he will say that I am suspending him because he has been
attacking me lately. This is absolutely not true. Many other posters
have attacked me every day and I have never suspended them. John
Fernandez used to attack me several times a day and people were
surprised when I never suspended him.

In the five years since the FIDE-chess Yahoo group was established on
January 14, 2002, I have only suspended two chess players. One was
Steve of Alabama, now Steve of Tennessee, whom I suspended because he
refused to reveal his last name. Later, when he told me that his name
was Steve Owens, I let him back in even though he attacked me every
day and continues to do so.

The other person I suspended was known for obnoxious and objectionable
postings. There were a tremendous number of complaints about him and
at least one person had left the group because of him. (He was also
the same person who woke up Mike Nolan at 3:00 AM recently.)

In that case, I allowed him to rejoin on a promise of good behavior
and he remains a member of the group to this day.

So, the only two people I have ever suspended have since rejoined the
group and are posting here now.

"Rob Mitchell" too can be reinstated provided that he reveals his real
name and provides verifiable information establishing his identity.

Sam Sloan

On Apr 16, 7:01 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
Sam Sloan wrote in a Fide newsgroup of which he is moderator that he is to
ban Rob Mitchell from posting in it - this follows challenges to Sloans
truth about the porn at his site. I think everyone should read my own
response in that group. //Phil Innes

--

He invited you to play chess! He gave you his physical address and phone
number. Sam Sloan now pretends he never noticed either the original
invitation or the recent post re-iterating it nor two of mine which averred
who Rob Mitchell is, and as I presume competent witnesses, Boris Gulko,
Susan Polgar, Alex Onischuk and Alex Stripunsky could also tell you.

What a fantastic irony that Mitchell, I, and a few others, thought that the
same behavior was reprehensible in Moderator Blair's Wiki 'action'.

This, you see, is your problem, your massive egotism cannot stand the
slightest challenge to its need to express, neither can you moderate it.

I can certainly make you famous for this stunt, though I doubt in any way
you'd like.

You are a coward, Sloan.

Phil Innes

Not true at all. If I was going to suspend him for that reason I would
suspend you too. Of course, I know that Phil Innes is a real person
because I have met you, although few others have.

True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

Again, I will reinstate Rob Mitchell any time. All he has to do is
reveal his real name or provide proof that his real name really is Rob
Mitchell.

Sam Sloan

On Apr 16, 7:29 pm, "samsloan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 7:01 pm, "Chess One" wrote:



Sam Sloan wrote in a Fide newsgroup of which he is moderator that he is to
ban Rob Mitchell from posting in it - this follows challenges to Sloans
truth about the porn at his site. I think everyone should read my own
response in that group. //Phil Innes

--

He invited you to play chess! He gave you his physical address and phone
number. Sam Sloan now pretends he never noticed either the original
invitation or the recent post re-iterating it nor two of mine which averred
who Rob Mitchell is, and as I presume competent witnesses, Boris Gulko,
Susan Polgar, Alex Onischuk and Alex Stripunsky could also tell you.

What a fantastic irony that Mitchell, I, and a few others, thought that the
same behavior was reprehensible in Moderator Blair's Wiki 'action'.

This, you see, is your problem, your massive egotism cannot stand the
slightest challenge to its need to express, neither can you moderate it.

I can certainly make you famous for this stunt, though I doubt in any way
you'd like.

You are a coward, Sloan.

Phil Innes

Not true at all. If I was going to suspend him for that reason I would
suspend you too. Of course, I know that Phil Innes is a real person
because I have met you, although few others have.

True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

Again, I will reinstate Rob Mitchell any time. All he has to do is
reveal his real name or provide proof that his real name really is Rob
Mitchell.

Sam Sloan

Sam,
If you possess the ability to use google, you can find me. I have
never hidden. I have met Beatriz and Jerry and Bill and Susan and Paul
and a whole bunch of other .people. If you truly created those sites
for your daughter, then you really have a problem. Sam, I have
defended you when you were wronged and pointed out when you are
wrong.Trying to ban me from your site doesn't hurt me in the least.
How is your appeal going? :-)

Rob Mitchell, LUTCF

True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

Those links are disturbing, I would suggest you seek help.


The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

I left because I was sick of hearing you whine constantly. The fakes
only started after you posted your unresearched nonsense.

You want to get credibility??? Stop your spamming/crossposting
to groups that have nothing to do with the topic you wish to discuss.

I use a nice simple twit filter and you were the FIRST name I added.
If everyone in the USCF read the crap you have posted here, you
wouldn't get one vote.

J.Lohner

On Apr 16, 10:03 pm, "Inconnux" wrote:
True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

Those links are disturbing, I would suggest you seek help.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

I left because I was sick of hearing you whine constantly. The fakes
only started after you posted your unresearched nonsense.

You want to get credibility??? Stop your spamming/crossposting
to groups that have nothing to do with the topic you wish to discuss.

I use a nice simple twit filter and you were the FIRST name I added.
If everyone in the USCF read the crap you have posted here, you
wouldn't get one vote.

J.Lohner

Click to join FIDE_CHESS
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

Thanks Jason. Sam took the only action open to him when his position
was indefensible, he knocked the pieces on the floor! I thought we
might begin a mirror group. It may not be as popular as Sam won't be
there. Oh, I would ban him. He just wouldn't join anything where he
might be moderated.
Rob Mitchell

On 16 Apr, 23:10, Rob wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:03 pm, "Inconnux" wrote:





True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

Those links are disturbing, I would suggest you seek help.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

I left because I was sick of hearing you whine constantly. *The fakes
only started after you posted your unresearched nonsense.

You want to get credibility??? Stop your spamming/crossposting
to groups that have nothing to do with the topic you wish to discuss.

I use a nice simple twit filter and you were the FIRST name I added.
If everyone in the USCF read the crap you have posted here, you
wouldn't get one vote.

J.Lohner

Click to join FIDE_CHESShttp://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

Thanks Jason. Sam took the only action open to him when his position
was indefensible, he knocked the pieces on the floor! I thought we
might begin a mirror group. It may not be as popular as Sam won't be
there. Oh, I would ban him. He just wouldn't join anything where he
might be moderated.
Rob Mitchell- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm not a coward. I'm a dirty old man.

Rob Mitchell doesn't exist.

On Apr 16, 7:29 pm, "samsloan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 7:01 pm, "Chess One" wrote:



Sam Sloan wrote in a Fide newsgroup of which he is moderator that he is to
ban Rob Mitchell from posting in it - this follows challenges to Sloans
truth about the porn at his site. I think everyone should read my own
response in that group. //Phil Innes

--

He invited you to play chess! He gave you his physical address and phone
number. Sam Sloan now pretends he never noticed either the original
invitation or the recent post re-iterating it nor two of mine which averred
who Rob Mitchell is, and as I presume competent witnesses, Boris Gulko,
Susan Polgar, Alex Onischuk and Alex Stripunsky could also tell you.

What a fantastic irony that Mitchell, I, and a few others, thought that the
same behavior was reprehensible in Moderator Blair's Wiki 'action'.

This, you see, is your problem, your massive egotism cannot stand the
slightest challenge to its need to express, neither can you moderate it.

I can certainly make you famous for this stunt, though I doubt in any way
you'd like.

You are a coward, Sloan.

Phil Innes

Not true at all. If I was going to suspend him for that reason I would
suspend you too. Of course, I know that Phil Innes is a real person
because I have met you, although few others have.

True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

Again, I will reinstate Rob Mitchell any time. All he has to do is
reveal his real name or provide proof that his real name really is Rob
Mitchell.

Sam Sloan

How about my membership listing from USCF forums?

877 Send private message Robmtchl Nashville,
Tennessee 02 Jan 2005 0

It doesn't copy and paste very well. But There I am. Since 2005 I am
877 on the list.

On Apr 16, 7:29 pm, "samsloan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 7:01 pm, "Chess One" wrote:



Sam Sloan wrote in a Fide newsgroup of which he is moderator that he is to
ban Rob Mitchell from posting in it - this follows challenges to Sloans
truth about the porn at his site. I think everyone should read my own
response in that group. //Phil Innes

--

He invited you to play chess! He gave you his physical address and phone
number. Sam Sloan now pretends he never noticed either the original
invitation or the recent post re-iterating it nor two of mine which averred
who Rob Mitchell is, and as I presume competent witnesses, Boris Gulko,
Susan Polgar, Alex Onischuk and Alex Stripunsky could also tell you.

What a fantastic irony that Mitchell, I, and a few others, thought that the
same behavior was reprehensible in Moderator Blair's Wiki 'action'.

This, you see, is your problem, your massive egotism cannot stand the
slightest challenge to its need to express, neither can you moderate it.

I can certainly make you famous for this stunt, though I doubt in any way
you'd like.

You are a coward, Sloan.

Phil Innes

Not true at all. If I was going to suspend him for that reason I would
suspend you too. Of course, I know that Phil Innes is a real person
because I have met you, although few others have.

True, Rob Mitchell has become increasingly nasty and abusive of late
and he touched a raw nerve for criticizing a website I created for my
daughter Jessica, but he denied all my requests to reveal his true
identity, so I was left with no choice under the rules but to suspend
him.

The rule that posters must reveal their real names has a rational
basis. It keeps out all the riff-raff of Fake Sam Sloans and the like
who just attack people and convert the chess forums into a garbage
dumpster. Most of the good posters have left rec.games.chess.politics
because of all the anonymous or fake-name posters who reside there and
who make no contribution but just attack everybody.

Again, I will reinstate Rob Mitchell any time. All he has to do is
reveal his real name or provide proof that his real name really is Rob
Mitchell.

Sam Sloan

Mr. Sloan has received the proof. He still has not lifted the "ban".
In this instance Mr. Sloan has proven his word to be as unreliable as
his "facts".

While he says the USCF has lost thousands of dollars on his watch he
dodges any responsibility by saying he is just one man. Since he is
unable to work with any member of the board to any productive means,
he uses personal information about the executive director and
personally attacks him thus violating Hippa and EEOC regulations. When
he is warned not to do so and he ignores the advise and gets censured
by the USCF for shooting off his mouth, he bans the messenger from a
discussion group he moderates.( He says he doesn't know who that
person is,even though he has that persons email, phone number and has
communicated with that person privately in the past!)

Mr. Sloan fails to respond to questions as to his statements" it's
impossible to rape a woman" He is also silent as to why he has posted
images of nude young girls engaging in prurient behavior. On these
indefensible issues Mr. Sloan has remained silent. He has remained
silent concerning a drug arrest as well as an arrest for having junior
high school children present at an orgy he sponsored.

There is a great deal of dissatisfaction with the USCF. So much so
that someone positioning them self as a "reformer" got elected. Those
who voted for him either didn't know about his past or were of a
similar nature in dubious sexual enterprises.

I will be honest. I do not expect Mr. Sloan to have the courage to
allow me to post in a newsgroup he moderates. I am simply too honest.
Do not think I am overtly hostile to Mr. Sloan. I have defended his
work against attacks by Louis Blair when Mr. Sloans chess biographies
were summarily deleted from WIkipedia. I even offered him another site
to post them.

If the USCF cannot find a way to self police and silence and remove
quickly dangerous threats to their viability and legal liabilities as
Mr. Sloan; they may not long survive. Parents may soon begin to find
other venues for their children to engage in scholastic chess once
they discover someone who advocates sexula relations with girls not
yet of the age of majority is on the elected governing board of the
USCF.

In parting I would request someone please post this to the newsgroup I
have been banned from addressing.
Rob

On Apr 18, 11:34 pm, Rob wrote:

How about my membership listing from USCF forums?

877 Send private message Robmtchl Nashville,
Tennessee 02 Jan 2005 0

It doesn't copy and paste very well. But There I am. Since 2005 I am
877 on the list.

Not true. I have just searched and can find no postings by "Robmtchl"
to the USCF Forums.

Also, back in 2005 USCF membership was not required for posting to the
forums.

You can prove me wrong by posting to the USCF Forums now.

Note that the two defenders you had no longer seem to be defending you
now that you have posted under two more fake names to the FIDE-chess
Yahoo Group.

Sam Sloan