If the moderators were unbiased, this entire thread would be deleted
and Chris Falter would be suspended for at least a week if not
permanently.

It is to be recalled that Chris Falter once quoted me as saying
something that I have never said. He put my supposed words in
quotation marks. His supposed quote by me was about Polgar and her
reply indicated that she was upset.

I believe that Chris Falter was suspended for one day for this.

Here, the posting by Chris Falter is entirely false. His headline is
"Mig Interviews Anderson, Reveals Why AF4C Quit Sponsorship."

However, there is no interview of Anderson anywhere. Erik Anderson has
never said any such thing. The only Executive Board member that has
even been able to speak to Anderson in the past 4-5 months is Don
Schultz and what he reported was that Anderson had said something
entirely different from that.

Bill Goichberg reported in two different meetings of the Executive
Board that he had tried but had not been able to get Erik Anderson on
the phone. Unfortunately, again, the tapes or transcripts of the
meetings have not been posted on the website, in violation of the by-
laws, so the general membership cannot hear what Goichberg said.

If even the USCF President cannot get Erik Anderson on the telephone,
how is it possible that a known Internet gadfly with poor reputation
for veracity can get to interview him?

The question now is why is Chris Falter freely allowed to post this
false garbage on this forum, while oldtimer and Brian Lafferty are
frequently suspended.

Sam Sloan

Sam, eat **** and die... Please.


"samsloan" wrote in message
ps.com...
If the moderators were unbiased, this entire thread would be deleted
and Chris Falter would be suspended for at least a week if not
permanently.

It is to be recalled that Chris Falter once quoted me as saying
something that I have never said. He put my supposed words in
quotation marks. His supposed quote by me was about Polgar and her
reply indicated that she was upset.

I believe that Chris Falter was suspended for one day for this.

Here, the posting by Chris Falter is entirely false. His headline is
"Mig Interviews Anderson, Reveals Why AF4C Quit Sponsorship."

However, there is no interview of Anderson anywhere. Erik Anderson has
never said any such thing. The only Executive Board member that has
even been able to speak to Anderson in the past 4-5 months is Don
Schultz and what he reported was that Anderson had said something
entirely different from that.

Bill Goichberg reported in two different meetings of the Executive
Board that he had tried but had not been able to get Erik Anderson on
the phone. Unfortunately, again, the tapes or transcripts of the
meetings have not been posted on the website, in violation of the by-
laws, so the general membership cannot hear what Goichberg said.

If even the USCF President cannot get Erik Anderson on the telephone,
how is it possible that a known Internet gadfly with poor reputation
for veracity can get to interview him?

The question now is why is Chris Falter freely allowed to post this
false garbage on this forum, while oldtimer and Brian Lafferty are
frequently suspended.

Sam Sloan

Right, and this falsehood by you is so extreme that, along with your
false statement with regard to the Polgar matter, brings me to the
conclusion that you should be thrown off this forum for good, even
though I am opposed to censorship except in the most extreme cases.
This is an extreme case.

Mig Greengard merely stated that he talked to Erik Anderson. He did
not say what he talked about. He did not say how long he spoke. He did
not say that he "interviewed" him. He has published no such interview.

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Sam Sloan

"samsloan" wrote in message
ups.com...

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Mullah-Sloan strikes again@!

This is the contentious comment Mig Greenard/Eric Anderson interview:-

"AF4C sponsorship totally broke down when a member of the USCF board accused
the AF4C of distributing pornography. (Really.)

GM Joel Benjamin will break his record streak of participating in an amazing
23 consecutive US championships, withdrawing over frustration with the USCF
(with no slight intended to the Oklahoma organizers, who are doing their
best)."

The problem is chess politicians still do not get this. Their continuous
petty and destructive political games are destroying this federation for
years. That is why I am determined to change this. I care only about
promoting this game properly for the benefits of the entire sports from kids
to adults, college, correspondence, military and Internet chess, etc. We
need to promote chess and the USCF and not the disgusting politics.


--

Sam Sloan has only raised 6 scandals concerning others, this day, [often in
multiple forms] - but of his own activities, see above how brave Sam is!
Another poster joins Rob Mitchell in the Gulag of Sam's affections.

Will I be next? He is afraid to ban me since 35,000 chess fans every week
will hear about it. But he should, since they already have.

Sam Sloan is very like those he accuses - as out of control as the USCF
president. Neither has much time for group process, and both act in their
own way to get what they want, despite any collective process.

It is all about them, and none about us.

Personality orientations do not forward us any more than they have these
past 20 years. This, I take it, is Erik Anderson's point, as it is also
widely perceived to be a valid point in the chess community.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

On May 5, 5:34 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Mullah-Sloan strikes again@!

This is the contentious comment Mig Greenard/Eric Anderson interview:-

"AF4C sponsorship totally broke down when a member of the USCF board accused
the AF4C of distributing pornography. (Really.)

GM Joel Benjamin will break his record streak of participating in an amazing
23 consecutive US championships, withdrawing over frustration with the USCF
(with no slight intended to the Oklahoma organizers, who are doing their
best)."

The problem is chess politicians still do not get this. Their continuous
petty and destructive political games are destroying this federation for
years. That is why I am determined to change this. I care only about
promoting this game properly for the benefits of the entire sports from kids
to adults, college, correspondence, military and Internet chess, etc. We
need to promote chess and the USCF and not the disgusting politics.

--

Sam Sloan has only raised 6 scandals concerning others, this day, [often in
multiple forms] - but of his own activities, see above how brave Sam is!
Another poster joins Rob Mitchell in the Gulag of Sam's affections.

Will I be next? He is afraid to ban me since 35,000 chess fans every week
will hear about it. But he should, since they already have.

Sam Sloan is very like those he accuses - as out of control as the USCF
president. Neither has much time for group process, and both act in their
own way to get what they want, despite any collective process.

It is all about them, and none about us.

Personality orientations do not forward us any more than they have these
past 20 years. This, I take it, is Erik Anderson's point, as it is also
widely perceived to be a valid point in the chess community.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

Sloan has banned someone else? Well. This person MUST be then a great
and wonderful person. Since Sam is loathe to ban anyone(lol) unless
they question him and point out his obvious short comings.

I understand he is coming to Nashville? Perhaps I shall inform the
proper authorities of his internet activities? Given his past
proclivities he may fall under the Mann Act?

Oh, And Sam.. trying to cross post to "alt.chess" is useless since it
hasn't been active for more than three years!
Rob

On May 6, 8:26 am, Rob wrote:
On May 5, 5:34 pm, "Chess One" wrote:



"samsloan" wrote in message

oups.com...

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Mullah-Sloan strikes again@!

This is the contentious comment Mig Greenard/Eric Anderson interview:-

"AF4C sponsorship totally broke down when a member of the USCF board accused
the AF4C of distributing pornography. (Really.)

GM Joel Benjamin will break his record streak of participating in an amazing
23 consecutive US championships, withdrawing over frustration with the USCF
(with no slight intended to the Oklahoma organizers, who are doing their
best)."

The problem is chess politicians still do not get this. Their continuous
petty and destructive political games are destroying this federation for
years. That is why I am determined to change this. I care only about
promoting this game properly for the benefits of the entire sports from kids
to adults, college, correspondence, military and Internet chess, etc. We
need to promote chess and the USCF and not the disgusting politics.

--

Sam Sloan has only raised 6 scandals concerning others, this day, [often in
multiple forms] - but of his own activities, see above how brave Sam is!
Another poster joins Rob Mitchell in the Gulag of Sam's affections.

Will I be next? He is afraid to ban me since 35,000 chess fans every week
will hear about it. But he should, since they already have.

Sam Sloan is very like those he accuses - as out of control as the USCF
president. Neither has much time for group process, and both act in their
own way to get what they want, despite any collective process.

It is all about them, and none about us.

Personality orientations do not forward us any more than they have these
past 20 years. This, I take it, is Erik Anderson's point, as it is also
widely perceived to be a valid point in the chess community.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

Sloan has banned someone else? Well. This person MUST be then a great
and wonderful person. Since Sam is loathe to ban anyone(lol) unless
they question him and point out his obvious short comings.

I understand he is coming to Nashville? Perhaps I shall inform the
proper authorities of his internet activities? Given his past
proclivities he may fall under the Mann Act?

Oh, And Sam.. trying to cross post to "alt.chess" is useless since it
hasn't been active for more than three years!
Rob

If you want an honest and open discussion of issues without being
banned by a petulant, ego centric twerp, join this group:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

On May 6, 9:39 am, Rob wrote:
On May 6, 8:26 am, Rob wrote:



On May 5, 5:34 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

"samsloan" wrote in message

oups.com...

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Mullah-Sloan strikes again@!

This is the contentious comment Mig Greenard/Eric Anderson interview:-

"AF4C sponsorship totally broke down when a member of the USCF board accused
the AF4C of distributing pornography. (Really.)

GM Joel Benjamin will break his record streak of participating in an amazing
23 consecutive US championships, withdrawing over frustration with the USCF
(with no slight intended to the Oklahoma organizers, who are doing their
best)."

The problem is chess politicians still do not get this. Their continuous
petty and destructive political games are destroying this federation for
years. That is why I am determined to change this. I care only about
promoting this game properly for the benefits of the entire sports from kids
to adults, college, correspondence, military and Internet chess, etc. We
need to promote chess and the USCF and not the disgusting politics.

--

Sam Sloan has only raised 6 scandals concerning others, this day, [often in
multiple forms] - but of his own activities, see above how brave Sam is!
Another poster joins Rob Mitchell in the Gulag of Sam's affections.

Will I be next? He is afraid to ban me since 35,000 chess fans every week
will hear about it. But he should, since they already have.

Sam Sloan is very like those he accuses - as out of control as the USCF
president. Neither has much time for group process, and both act in their
own way to get what they want, despite any collective process.

It is all about them, and none about us.

Personality orientations do not forward us any more than they have these
past 20 years. This, I take it, is Erik Anderson's point, as it is also
widely perceived to be a valid point in the chess community.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

Sloan has banned someone else? Well. This person MUST be then a great
and wonderful person. Since Sam is loathe to ban anyone(lol) unless
they question him and point out his obvious short comings.

I understand he is coming to Nashville? Perhaps I shall inform the
proper authorities of his internet activities? Given his past
proclivities he may fall under the Mann Act?

Oh, And Sam.. trying to cross post to "alt.chess" is useless since it
hasn't been active for more than three years!
Rob

If you want an honest and open discussion of issues without being
banned by a petulant, ego centric twerp, join this group:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

Normally I would not say anything because Rob is of course free to go
out and form as many groups as he wants, but advertising his new group
as having an "honest and open discussion" is misleading when his group
only has nine members and the only person who has posted there is Rob
Mitchell.

Worse than that, he is trying to trick people into joining his group
by giving it a name confusingly similar to the name of my group. The
name of my group is fide-chess. The name of his group is fide_chess .
This probably should be a violation of some Yahoo rule.

My group has 365 members. His group has 9 members.

Previously, he tried a different tactic. He created a group called
USCF-chess, again with a name similar to my group. Nobody has ever
posted there except for Rob Mitchell except that I posted there once
when he asked me to do so. You can find it at http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess/

My group has only one rule, which is that you must identify yourself
and use your real name. There were a lot of complaints about Rob
Mitchell in this regard from members of my group and therefore I was
finally forced to ask him to identify himself by either providing his
USCF ID number or by stating that he does not have one. He replied by
stating that under no circumstances was he going to tell me his USCF
ID number.

As a result of his contumacious refusal to comply with this one
publicly posted rule, I was forced to ban him. I had no other choice.
I am so glad I did in view of his behavior and his rants ever since. I
am certainly happy not to have the postings he has made here go into
my own group where I would have had to deal with them.

Sam Sloan

On May 6, 9:56 am, samsloan wrote:
On May 6, 9:39 am, Rob wrote:



On May 6, 8:26 am, Rob wrote:

On May 5, 5:34 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

"samsloan" wrote in message

oups.com...

Your statement that Erik Anderson pulled out of sponsorship of the US
Chess Championship because of complaints about pornography on his
website is not only untrue, it is libelous to everybody, including
Erik Anderson, Mig Greengard and myself. In view of this plus your
history of postings like this, I feel that you should be thrown off
this group. Indeed, it is obvious that the only reason you were not
banned from this group long ago is your support of the insider-
approved candidates for election.

Mullah-Sloan strikes again@!

This is the contentious comment Mig Greenard/Eric Anderson interview:-

"AF4C sponsorship totally broke down when a member of the USCF board accused
the AF4C of distributing pornography. (Really.)

GM Joel Benjamin will break his record streak of participating in an amazing
23 consecutive US championships, withdrawing over frustration with the USCF
(with no slight intended to the Oklahoma organizers, who are doing their
best)."

The problem is chess politicians still do not get this. Their continuous
petty and destructive political games are destroying this federation for
years. That is why I am determined to change this. I care only about
promoting this game properly for the benefits of the entire sports from kids
to adults, college, correspondence, military and Internet chess, etc. We
need to promote chess and the USCF and not the disgusting politics.

--

Sam Sloan has only raised 6 scandals concerning others, this day, [often in
multiple forms] - but of his own activities, see above how brave Sam is!
Another poster joins Rob Mitchell in the Gulag of Sam's affections.

Will I be next? He is afraid to ban me since 35,000 chess fans every week
will hear about it. But he should, since they already have.

Sam Sloan is very like those he accuses - as out of control as the USCF
president. Neither has much time for group process, and both act in their
own way to get what they want, despite any collective process.

It is all about them, and none about us.

Personality orientations do not forward us any more than they have these
past 20 years. This, I take it, is Erik Anderson's point, as it is also
widely perceived to be a valid point in the chess community.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

Sloan has banned someone else? Well. This person MUST be then a great
and wonderful person. Since Sam is loathe to ban anyone(lol) unless
they question him and point out his obvious short comings.

I understand he is coming to Nashville? Perhaps I shall inform the
proper authorities of his internet activities? Given his past
proclivities he may fall under the Mann Act?




Oh, And Sam.. trying to cross post to "alt.chess" is useless since it
hasn't been active for more than three years!
Rob




If you want an honest and open discussion of issues without being
banned by a petulant, ego centric twerp, join this group:




http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join





My group has 365 members. His group has 9 members.


Bigger isn't better Sam... isnt that your creedo?

Previously, he tried a different tactic. He created a group called
USCF-chess, again with a name similar to my group. Nobody has ever
posted there except for Rob Mitchell except that I posted there once
when he asked me to do so. You can find it

http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess/


No there have been several other posters there other than the Samite.

My group has only one rule, which is that you must identify yourself
and use your real name. There were a lot of complaints about Rob
Mitchell in this regard from members of my group and therefore I was
finally forced to ask him to identify himself by either providing his
USCF ID number or by stating that he does not have one. He replied by
stating that under no circumstances was he going to tell me his USCF
ID number.

This is a categorical lie. I never said that I would not provide my
USCF number. I simply told Sam ne knew who I was because we had emails
between us and I had even given him my phone number. I knew that
regardless of what evidence I provided he was going to keep me from
posting in his group because he was being asked questions he didn't
want to answer.

As a result of his contumacious refusal to comply with this one
publicly posted rule, I was forced to ban him. I had no other choice.
I am so glad I did in view of his behavior and his rants ever since. I
am certainly happy not to have the postings he has made here go into
my own group where I would have had to deal with them.


Sure, He doesn't like the light of day. Sam is intellectually
dishonest and a liar.
I defended him when Louis Blair had his work putged from WIkipedia.
Because it was the right and honest thing to do. Sam simply refuses to
address issues and concerns about certain proclivities of his. I think
he can be dangerous aroung children and that he is personally
disgusting to ladies.
Rob
Sam Sloan