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Lafayette, Grant, Hillary and Zsuzsa Polgar



 
 
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Old June 5th 07, 02:45 PM posted to soc.culture.french,soc.history.medieval,rec.games.chess.politics,soc.history.war.us-revolution,rec.games.chess.misc
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Jack LeMoine has just displayed the most astounding ignorance of
American history imaginable. He should go back to wherever it is he
came from. It could not be here, nor could it be France, because
otherwise he would know that the Marquis de Lafayette, French Soldier
& Statesman, was one of the most important persons in the entire
history of France.

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Originally Posted by jacklemoine
Harry, what is the significance of a negative
answer to your question? Let's consider some of the famous men and
women of history who did nothing of note other than be a lieutenant to
their boss.

1) What else did Lafayette do, other than serve under George
Washington? True he commanded an army in the French Revolution but
that was brief and accomplished nothing.
The Marquis de Lafayette did not merely serve under General George
Washington. Marquis de Lafayette won the American Revolutionary war,
aided by some French admirals who blockaded the British and prevented
them from receiving reinforcements. That George-guy had very little to
do with, almost nothing to do with winning the war.

After winning the American Revolutionary War, Marquis de Lafayette
returned to France where he was named commandeer of the National Guard
and became the de facto ruler of France as one of the few remaining
supporters of a weakened King Louis XVI. When King Louis lost his
head, Lafayette was imprisoned but was spared the guillotine primarily
because of the reputation he enjoyed as having won the American
Revolutionary War.

Marquis de Lafayette spent five years in prison in various countries,
escaped, and got caught again. He became allied with Napoleon and,
when Napoleon was exiled to Elba, Marquis de Lafayette hatched a
scheme to help Napoleon escape and return to power.

Lafayette avoided the Battle of Waterloo. Always managing to escape
just in time to avoid execution and to return to grace, Marquis de
Lafayette served out his last years as a member of the French National
Assembly until his death in 1834 at age 77.

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2) What did Grant do other than serve under Lincoln? Before
Lincoln, his military career was a failure as was his business
ventures. After Lincoln, his political career ended in failure as was
his business ventures.
Next you say that Grant accomplished nothing other than getting Lee to
surrender. Perhaps you are not aware that Grant served two terms as
president of the United States. It is true that until very recently
Grant was regarded as the worst president America ever had but,
nevertheless, eight years as president has to count as an
accomplishment.

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3) Then there's Hillary Clinton. What has she ever
accomplished on her own? True, she had some prestigious jobs, but
what has she done with them? She's famous because she assisted Bill.
Now she's running for President and she may well make a good one if
elected.
Moving to Hillary Clinton, while a lot of people do not like her
mainly because of her votes in favor of the war, in general the people
of New York State where she is their senator like her and that is an
accomplishment.

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Which brings us back to Paul. Being famous for helping someone
else in their work is not a bad thing and does not disqualify him/her
from striking out on their own.
Turning to the candidate you currently support, Zsuzsa Polgar, it is
true that for at least eight years from 1984 to 1992 she fought
against the "Evil Chess Politicians" in her native Hungary and she
claims to have defeated them, it has yet to be seen whether she will
be able similarly to defeat the "Evil Chess Politicians", of which she
says that I am one, here in America, Our Evil Chess Politicians are
more evil than those Evil Hungarian Chess Politicians.

Regarding your abysmal lack of knowledge of American history, you need
to order my book "The Slave Children of Thomas Jefferson" where the
career of Marquis de Lafayette as briefly the de facto Ruler of France
is discussed on pages 137 and 168 of my book.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1881373029

Sam Sloan

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