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Old June 28th 07, 02:26 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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I know some still disagree but right now Kramnik is showing he is the
World Champion and he is the man to beat to take the title. It would
be great to see a match between him and Anand. Too bad that won't
happen. Aronian would be a great match too.

EZoto
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Old June 28th 07, 02:27 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Jun 28, 2:26 am, EZoto wrote:
I know some still disagree but right now Kramnik is showing he is the
World Champion and he is the man to beat to take the title. It would
be great to see a match between him and Anand. Too bad that won't
happen. Aronian would be a great match too.

EZoto


Yeah, I think Aronian would be a good match - Anand should be leaving
recovery soon after the Kasparov match. Ya gotta admit, when Kramnik
is playing well (not blundering) he is INCREDIBLY hard to beat - he's
like that statue of Chief Sitting Bull, very hard to perturb.

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Old June 28th 07, 08:26 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Ian Burton
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"Offramp" wrote in message
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On Jun 28, 2:26 am, EZoto wrote:
I know some still disagree but right now Kramnik is showing he is the
World Champion and he is the man to beat to take the title. It would
be great to see a match between him and Anand. Too bad that won't
happen. Aronian would be a great match too.

EZoto


Yeah, I think Aronian would be a good match - Anand should be leaving
recovery soon after the Kasparov match. Ya gotta admit, when Kramnik
is playing well (not blundering) he is INCREDIBLY hard to beat - he's
like that statue of Chief Sitting Bull, very hard to perturb.


When he is playing well, he can get blood from a stone. No one else in
chess history comes close to him in performing this magic feat. What a
delight to see!
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Old June 28th 07, 10:38 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
Offramp
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On Jun 28, 8:26 pm, "Ian Burton" wrote:

When he is playing well, he can get blood from a stone. No one else in
chess history comes close to him in performing this magic feat. What a
delight to see!
--
Ian Burton


I dunno. I would think it was like Petrosian and Karpov. He loses
games a bit like them as well - a big blunder.

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Old June 29th 07, 12:35 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:38:57 -0700, Offramp
wrote:

On Jun 28, 8:26 pm, "Ian Burton" wrote:

When he is playing well, he can get blood from a stone. No one else in
chess history comes close to him in performing this magic feat. What a
delight to see!
--
Ian Burton


I dunno. I would think it was like Petrosian and Karpov. He loses
games a bit like them as well - a big blunder.


Karpov and Kramnik have made the rare gross blunder but I don't think
Petrosian has made that awful a blunder like the other two.
Capablanca is the other who rarely made a blunder, probably less than
the other 3.

EZoto
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Old June 29th 07, 04:53 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Jun 28, 7:35 pm, EZoto wrote:
Karpov and Kramnik have made the rare gross blunder but I don't think
Petrosian has made that awful a blunder like the other two.
Capablanca is the other who rarely made a blunder, probably less than
the other 3.


Neither Petrosian nor Capablanca were blunder-proof. Petrosian in
fact had the shortest loss in a serious game by a reigning world
champion:

Liberzon-Petrosyan, Moscow 1964: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb5 4. e5
Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Qg4 Ng6 8. h4 h5 9. Qg3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6
11. Bd3 Nce7 12. dxc5 Qxc5 13. Nf3 Bd7 14. 0-0 Bb5? 15. Be3 1-0. But
that was not the worst of it for Petrosyan. He thought he was losing a
piece (15. ... Qc6? 16. Nd4), but in fact he need lose only a pawn
(15. ... d4!).
As I recall, he also hung his queeen in one game, vs. Bronstein I
think.

Capa was no less fallible, though in at least one case he had an
excuse, in Saemisch-Capablanca, Carlsbad 1929: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3.
Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 d6 6. f3 e5 7. e4 Nc6 8. Be3 b6 9. Bd3 At
this point, so the story goes, Capablanca unhappily received word that
both his wife and his mistress had come to Carlsbad. Though an adept
calculator and experienced in simultaneous exhibitions, Capablanca
found these additional complications a bit too distracting, and fell
into 9. ... Ba6?? 10. Qa4! losing a piece.

I wrote about these and other famous blunders in this article:

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/blundr.txt

It's not that great GMs never blunder, it's just that they do it so
less often than woodpushers like us.

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Old June 29th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:53:48 -0700, Taylor Kingston
wrote:

On Jun 28, 7:35 pm, EZoto wrote:
Karpov and Kramnik have made the rare gross blunder but I don't think
Petrosian has made that awful a blunder like the other two.
Capablanca is the other who rarely made a blunder, probably less than
the other 3.


Neither Petrosian nor Capablanca were blunder-proof. Petrosian in
fact had the shortest loss in a serious game by a reigning world
champion:

Liberzon-Petrosyan, Moscow 1964: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb5 4. e5
Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Qg4 Ng6 8. h4 h5 9. Qg3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6
11. Bd3 Nce7 12. dxc5 Qxc5 13. Nf3 Bd7 14. 0-0 Bb5? 15. Be3 1-0. But
that was not the worst of it for Petrosyan. He thought he was losing a
piece (15. ... Qc6? 16. Nd4), but in fact he need lose only a pawn
(15. ... d4!).
As I recall, he also hung his queeen in one game, vs. Bronstein I
think.

Capa was no less fallible, though in at least one case he had an
excuse, in Saemisch-Capablanca, Carlsbad 1929: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3.
Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 d6 6. f3 e5 7. e4 Nc6 8. Be3 b6 9. Bd3 At
this point, so the story goes, Capablanca unhappily received word that
both his wife and his mistress had come to Carlsbad. Though an adept
calculator and experienced in simultaneous exhibitions, Capablanca
found these additional complications a bit too distracting, and fell
into 9. ... Ba6?? 10. Qa4! losing a piece.

I wrote about these and other famous blunders in this article:

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/blundr.txt

It's not that great GMs never blunder, it's just that they do it so
less often than woodpushers like us.


I guess since it is them it is bigger news when they blunder. My all
time favorite is Kasparov blundering against Anand in the older
chessbase package as a sample AVI. That is a classic. I wish someone
filmed Karpov's blunder against Christiansen when he hung 2 pieces
against the Queen and was forced to lose one.

EZoto
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Old July 1st 07, 10:27 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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EZoto ha scritto:

I know some still disagree but right now Kramnik is showing he is the
World Champion and he is the man to beat to take the title. It would
be great to see a match between him and Anand. Too bad that won't
happen. Aronian would be a great match too.

EZoto


Yes, Kramnik is performing well, most likely there is any doubt about
the strenght of the World Chess Champion.
Kramnik is actually the n.1!
Vlad is one of the greatest player of all time concerning Match, but
he's very strong also in tournaments.

 




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