On Jul 11, 2:06 pm, Rob wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:27 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolan And of course we all know Sam Sloan would NEVER repost something to another forum or medium without permission. :ironic grin:

A valid point, but I believe you will find that I have never posted
information about the medical condition of anybody.

I will give an example: A certain candidate was reported to have
recently been hospitalized for a week and to have had an operation.

I have never posted that information here or anywhere else for that
matter.

Sam Sloan

LOL
Wrong
You are either an incredibly bold liar or suffering dementia

What was wrong? Are you saying that the person was not hospitalized
for a week?

Sam sloan

A valid point, but I believe you will find that I have never posted
information about the medical condition of anybody.



** LOL - hey, what about the exec dir's stubbed toe? Isn't that why you
fired Rob Mitchell from 'your' ng [combined with his other question?]

Phil Innes



I will give an example: A certain candidate was reported to have
recently been hospitalized for a week and to have had an operation.

I have never posted that information here or anywhere else for that
matter.

Sam Sloan

On Jul 11, 1:27 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolan And of course we all know Sam Sloan would NEVER repost something to another forum or medium without permission. :ironic grin:

A valid point, but I believe you will find that I have never posted
information about the medical condition of anybody.

I will give an example: A certain candidate was reported to have
recently been hospitalized for a week and to have had an operation.

I have never posted that information here or anywhere else for that
matter.

Sam Sloan

*boggle* Is this the fake Sam Sloan? He admitted that someone else had
a point! I've never seen the real Sam Sloan do something like that!

--Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: "samhsloan"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: [fide-chess] Susan Polgar has posted negative information about
medical condition of a ri


Not true. The USCF Forum is not a public forum. Access to the forum is
limited. One must apply. It is not easy to find the place and get in
here and members are few.

Known Troublemakers like Phil Innes, Rob Mitchell, Bill Brock, Larry
Parr and a host of others are not allowed access to the Forum.

**Small lie from Sloan, not that this is even an interesting diversion! I
can read there and post there too!

Even
Susan Polgar is not allowed to come there, not because she was kicked
out or excluded, but because she excluded herself.

**ROFL - is this some novel and inventive way of saying that she choses not
to take part in the forum? ))

She is not even
allowed to browse this forum, although I am sure she would immediately
be reinstated if she applied.

It is up to Beatriz Marinello to decide to whom and how she wants to
disclose information about her medical condition. Beatriz chose to
post it there but not anyplace else.

Beatriz is a very private person. For example, she has never revealed
her residence address. For her mailing address, she uses a PO Box in
Crossville Tennessee. Even I do not know where she lives although I
know that she lives somewhere in New York City. I know of nobody who
knows her actual address.


**LOL - Sam Sloan doesn't know, therefore...

The decision by Beatriz to reveal this information about her medical
condition was probably motivated by the fact that she is a member of
the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation and USCF
members have some right to know about the health status of the members
of the board. I am sure that Beatriz does not want the entire world to
know about her medical condition.


**Sam Sloan is sure that by posting to a forum eligible to 80,000 chess
fans, rather than to ... she... what a farce of a statement!

There is a larger issue concerning the fact that Susan Polgar
routinely re-posts large numbers of postings on the USCF Forum to her
own blog. She even re-posts much of what I write here to her own blog.
I have no objection but I am sure that others do.


**I, for one, have not seen what she reposts of your material.

For example, today, Susan has reposted to her blog a long posting by
Mike Aigner on the USCF Forum. Many readers will believe and indeed I
for a second believed that Mike Aigner had decided to post to her
blog.

**But after reflection, rather than reaction...

By doing this, Susan leads readers to conclude that Mike Aigner
and others who are shown on her blog actually support Susan Polgar for
election.


**Is this a fair paraphrase of what Aigner wrote? And if not, and I suspect
not, what does this mean about Sam Sloan's reporting of it? Jeez! He has
already forgotten the 'evidence' he spoke of that Randy Bauer is the fake
Sam Sloan, he forgot so quickly that his suggested 'evidence' survived all
of 2 hours.

I have no idea whether Mike actually supports her or not.

**Why let that stop such a person as yourself? It doesn;t stop the National
Inquirer, who are as ardent as all get out!

I
do know that in the past she put postings by Hal Bogner on her blog
and when Bogner demanded that Susan remove them, she started attacking
Bogner.


**Would the Sloan-word 'attack' mean, in this instance, ask what he did
mean? rhetorical question

Phil Innes

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On Jul 11, 1:27 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolan And of course we all know Sam Sloan would NEVER repost something to another forum or medium without permission. :ironic grin:

A valid point, but I believe you will find that I have never posted
information about the medical condition of anybody.

Hmmm....Mr. Hall?

Quite, but that was that... a whole month ago? Quite excusable in politics
and the circus.

Phil

K

I finally reached Beatriz Marinello, not because I was able to get
through to her but because she called me.

Beatriz calls me almost every day to find out what is going on because
she both works fulls time AND is in constant need of medical
treatment, so she does not have much time to come onto the Internet.
Also, she feels that the other board members will not tell her
anything.

As I suspected, she was shocked and surprised that Susan Polgar had
posted about her kidney transplant on Susan's blog. She was also
concerned that Susan had posted her picture on Susan's Blog.

However, she seemed to view it with relative equanimity and was not
nearly as upset as I feared that she might be.

Sam Sloan

SPIN CITY

As I suspected, she was shocked and surprised

**NB "shocked and surprised"

that Susan Polgar had
posted about her kidney transplant on Susan's blog. She was also
concerned that Susan had posted her picture on Susan's Blog.

However, she seemed to view it with relative equanimity

**NB "relative equanimity"

and was not
nearly as upset as I feared that she might be.


**NB as I hoped and agitated that she might be? What a shame for Sam Sloan
that she was shocked and surprised with relative equanimity!

**Seems to me that if Sam Sloan is your main source of information, via
'almost daily telephone calls' since you don't do much independent net
reading, then you might rightly fear that the sky was falling down. Except
of course, how can it be falling down every day? Wouldn't you twig it?

**I wonder if Sam Sloan mentioned that after HE wrote yesterday "I am sure
that Beatriz does not want the entire world to know about her medical
condition.", and to advertise this privacy HE has advertised it to this
newsgroup [FIDE chess] - while at the same time arguing that USCF Forums are
'private', then HE advertised it to chess.misc, chess politics, a hungarian
newsgroup, and who knows where else... I wonder if HE told B that?

**Whether anyone likes or dislikes the performance of BM as board member,
what I read at the Polgar site, and what I feel myself, and suspect most
grown-ups do, is that we all wish the person well, regardless if we liked
her board activity.

**To the same point; if BM really needs some peace and quiet, maybe someone
should tell her that she is listening to the Brooklyn Bridge at rush hour,
with sirens, and there are quieter venues. Phil Innes


Sam Sloan

On Jul 11, 1:28 pm, samsloan wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:06 pm, Rob wrote:





On Jul 11, 12:27 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolan And of course we all know Sam Sloan would NEVER repost something to another forum or medium without permission. :ironic grin:

A valid point, but I believe you will find that I have never posted
information about the medical condition of anybody.

I will give an example: A certain candidate was reported to have
recently been hospitalized for a week and to have had an operation.

I have never posted that information here or anywhere else for that
matter.

Sam Sloan

LOL
Wrong
You are either an incredibly bold liar or suffering dementia

What was wrong? Are you saying that the person was not hospitalized
for a week?

Sam sloan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't know Sam.. but you have just now posted more information! LOL

On Jul 11, 11:25 am, "Chess One" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Susan Polgar has taken the entire posting by Beatriz Marinello on the
USCF Forum and reposted it to her blog:

http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007...former-uscf-pr...

Anybody who knows anything about Susan knows that she hates Beatriz.

Anybody knows Sam Sloan knows he can't tell a story without spin. It is well
known that the two have differences, even strong ones over the Woman's
Olympiad - so how come Sam Sloan makes this a one-way 'hatred' as he puts
it?

Therefore, I think that re-posting the post by Beatriz without
permission over to Susan's Blog is an incredibly low-class, dirty
trick.

This is simply lying, the Marinello message begins, "... I would like to
inform my friends and members of the chess community..." which is as it
says, a message to the chess community not just USCF.

I know that this was done without permission because Susan has not
spoken to Beatriz for years. Beatriz is one of the "Destructive Chess
Politicians" that Susan is constantly railing against on her blog.

Also, Susan posted a picture of Beatriz without permission.

The same picture which has been on public release with B. Marinello's
statements for years!

Women are
often sensitive about having their picture posted and this was another
dirty trick by Susan.

Actually, in this picture Beatriz looks very well, and is contemplating a
chess position. Hardly an unflattering image. Hardly a dirty trick.

Next, Susan has posted a bunch of "anonymous" comments applauding
Susan for postings disclosures about the medical condition of Beatriz.
Here are two of them:

The 'disclosures' that beatriz Marinello herself posted?

Sam Sloan has gone from McCarthy type 'questions' which negatively suppose
on others often based on baseless 'evidence', to plain hate mongering in
order to relegate his political opponents.

Meanwhile, he has decided to champion Scholastic chess, while refusing to
answer questions about decency of public expression from Rob Mitchell, or if
he would submit to a background check, by myself.

Challenge to USCF Board Members

Ironically, while Sloan makes this all about him, his revelations and
scrubby ways of presenting issues, are a net loss to USCF. If that statement
is considered to be dirty politics, then Mr. Sloan has been invited to
disinfect himself from such dirt, as EVERY adult is required to do if they
have anything to do with children, and in every public high-school in the
land.

While Sam Sloan pretends that is the savior of all, and pretends he has not
read this, then there is no question of where the dirt is.

The challenge is to put up or shut up. I certainly would not want ANYONE
unwilling to take a background check anywhere near children.

Phil Innes
Vermont

O - one final thing - the Blog site begins 'Best Wishes to former USCF
President Beatriz Marinello'.

Phil

Do you recall the USCF Delegates voted to pay 15,000 dollars of her
medical bills, after she attacked Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, President of
FIDE. In fact, she BACKSTABBED KIRSAN. She wrote an article attacking
Ilyumzhinov, and then DID THE SAME THINNG BY TAKING MONEY, except
Kirsan repaid FIDE, and Beatriz put the 15,000 dollars in her pocket.

Marcus Roberts

samsloan wrote:

[quote="ueschessmom"]First, I do agree that it was probably not a
great idea to post Beatriz's cell phone number on Susan's blog (but I

Next, Susan has posted a bunch of "anonymous" comments applauding
Susan for postings disclosures about the medical condition of Beatriz.
Here are two of them:

Anonymous said...

*It's very classy of you to post this. Thanks!
*Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:20:00 PM

I think it would be classy to personally congratulate Susan on her new
position at Texas Tech.

Here's her contact information:

Zsuzanna Polgar-Shutzman
Office of the Provost
MS2019
Texas Tech University
Lubbock, TX 79409
Phone: (806) 742-2184