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Old September 17th 07, 02:29 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Fischer did or would you go down fighting like a true champion ?

Me , some one would have to pry it from my hands and beat me over the
chess board because id never let it go willingly...

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Old September 17th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Sep 16, 8:29 pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:

Fischer did or would you go down fighting like a true champion ?

Me , some one would have to pry it from my hands and beat me over the
chess board because id never let it go willingly...


If I were the world champion I would not only take on
and defeat all comers, but I would go one further: I would
recapture the title of world's strongest chess player by
defeating the top chess programs in matches. Reaching
my prime at the tender age of 17, I would then proceed to
win every major international tournament the world over,
up 'till I was, say, 30 years of age. Then I would go on TV
and say chess bores me; it is no challenge because of
my far superior intellect (see The Wrath of Khan). My shirt
unbuttoned to show my astounding musculature, I would
look into the camera and issue a deadpan prediction of the
eventual demise of mankind to the rise of computers, which
of course, only I was able to stave off for the time being. I
would then die in a mysterious plane crash, to establish a
legend of absolute invincibility.

My estate would contain letters describing how occasionally,
I deliberately played slightly inferior moves, just to rattle my
opponents; this would protect my legend from any tarnish
which might otherwise accrue after intense computer analysis
of my games.

-------------------

But of course, I could never be world champion; this is
partly because chess is not important enough to waste a
valuable mind on. It's just a game; a complete waste of
time. Life is short. That's why I have given up chess
altogether.


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Old September 17th 07, 02:19 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
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A BEAUTIFUL MIND

But of course, I could never be world champion; this

is partly because chess is not important enough to
waste a valuable mind on. It's just a game; a complete waste
of time. Life is short. That's why I have given up chess
altogether. -- Help Bot

Greg Kennedy -- our embittered Indiana factory
worker and excuse-maker -- implies that he has "a valuable mind."

One can certainly debate whether chess is a waste
of time and intellectual energy (Raymond Chandler once
termed it the greatest waste of talent save for
Stalinist apologetics), but surely no one at rgcp who
recollects our Greg's varied claims would ever argue
that he is capable of wasting what he possesses not.

The Gregger once told us that he coulda been a
chess contendah except for his exile among the
cornpones of Indiana. He mighta perused Plautus,
mighta communed with Cicero, except that Indiana
forced him to read too many comic books during the 1960s.

A few years back, Greg had sufficient honesty to
acknowledge a certain vacuum between his aural
appendages. These days, he appears to be saying, a la
Kingsley Amis, I'm all right, Jack. (Whoosh -- that
gust of humid atmosphere was Greg rushing to Wiki to
look up the name of Kingsley Amis.)

He tells us, in this paraphrase of mine, "I used
to admit my intellectual shortcomings and invent
excuses for them. No longer, rgcp a-holes! Your Greg
is doing just fine headwise and always has done fine,
notwithstanding my modest efforts on this site. I
have always had a lot of brain to drain and intend to
waste no more. Hence, hasta la vista, ajedrez!"

Mama, chess made your Greg -- the guy who doesn't
agree with GM Ray Keene that taking back a move is such
a big deal -- read those comic books.

Yours, Larry Parr



help bot wrote:
On Sep 16, 8:29 pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:

Fischer did or would you go down fighting like a true champion ?

Me , some one would have to pry it from my hands and beat me over the
chess board because id never let it go willingly...


If I were the world champion I would not only take on
and defeat all comers, but I would go one further: I would
recapture the title of world's strongest chess player by
defeating the top chess programs in matches. Reaching
my prime at the tender age of 17, I would then proceed to
win every major international tournament the world over,
up 'till I was, say, 30 years of age. Then I would go on TV
and say chess bores me; it is no challenge because of
my far superior intellect (see The Wrath of Khan). My shirt
unbuttoned to show my astounding musculature, I would
look into the camera and issue a deadpan prediction of the
eventual demise of mankind to the rise of computers, which
of course, only I was able to stave off for the time being. I
would then die in a mysterious plane crash, to establish a
legend of absolute invincibility.

My estate would contain letters describing how occasionally,
I deliberately played slightly inferior moves, just to rattle my
opponents; this would protect my legend from any tarnish
which might otherwise accrue after intense computer analysis
of my games.

-------------------

But of course, I could never be world champion; this is
partly because chess is not important enough to waste a
valuable mind on. It's just a game; a complete waste of
time. Life is short. That's why I have given up chess
altogether.


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Old September 17th 07, 05:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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But of course, I could never be world champion; this is
partly because chess is not important enough to waste a
valuable mind on. It's just a game; a complete waste of
time. Life is short. That's why I have given up chess
altogether.


One should know his limits, Say I am 1400 Rated I know I can maximum
get a rating of 1600, If I read a lots of books. So what, 1600 will
not do any good to me. Atleast 1800, is needed to become tournament
player so its better to choose some other field instead of wasting
time on Chess.

I love flowers and birds and I watch discovery Channel and enjoy
various programs.

Simmilarly say someone has 1800 Rating and by hard work he gets to
2100 rating. If that is what he wants then he should continue else
stop playing Chess and do things he likes.

Simmilarly say someone has 2100 Rating and by hard work he gets 2300
rating. If that is what he wants then he should continue else stop
playing Chess and do things he likes.

So one should understand his limits. And only do things that he can
manage to do. Else it will ruin your life.

Remember 1 week back I said "If getclub Chess do not improve in 4 days
I will shut GetClub Chess forever" Why I said so because If no
solution is found its better to leave that and stop wasting time in a
thing that is impossible for you to acomplish. So know your limits
else it will ruin your life.

Life never gives second chance. Once Kasparov beat Karpov he remain
the world best. Still there is one saying "One who thinks can do a
thing will be able to do it. and one who thinks he cannot will never
be able to do it. So don't loose hope." Its upto you what you choose.

Life is difficult for our small minds to understand.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


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Old September 18th 07, 02:47 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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I am laughing at your superior intellect...

That was a good movie...

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Old September 18th 07, 03:37 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Sep 17, 11:37 am, Sanny wrote:

One should know his limits, Say I am 1400 Rated I know I can maximum
get a rating of 1600, If I read a lots of books. So what, 1600 will
not do any good to me. Atleast 1800, is needed to become tournament
player so its better to choose some other field instead of wasting
time on Chess.


Nonsense; even Bobby Fischer was once a weak
player. Don't believe all the stories about kids who
were never taught anything, but then for no apparent
reason, beat their Uncle who was a local "master".
The attempt at removal of cause and effect is a
deceitful ploy.

Let me give you an example: countless writers
have maintained that Jose Capablanca did not lose
a game for eight years, yet they *deliberately* hide
the fact that World War I was going on, and he
played very infrequently as a result.


I love flowers and birds and I watch discovery Channel and enjoy
various programs.

Simmilarly say someone has 1800 Rating and by hard work he gets to
2100 rating. If that is what he wants then he should continue else
stop playing Chess and do things he likes.


Most of the players around here seem hooked on
chess; it makes no difference that they may not
have improved in twenty years; they keep coming
back for more. As far as I can tell, the USCF has
brought about a slow process of ratings deflation, and
this perhaps is a discouraging factor -- especially in
comparison to the era of rapid ratings inflation.


Simmilarly say someone has 2100 Rating and by hard work he gets 2300
rating. If that is what he wants then he should continue else stop
playing Chess and do things he likes.

So one should understand his limits. And only do things that he can
manage to do. Else it will ruin your life.

Remember 1 week back I said "If getclub Chess do not improve in 4 days
I will shut GetClub Chess forever" Why I said so because If no
solution is found its better to leave that and stop wasting time in a
thing that is impossible for you to acomplish. So know your limits
else it will ruin your life.


Well, according to your own accounts the chess
program is coded by others, not by you. So if
there is a failure it may be because your hired
crew is unfamiliar with certain chess programming
techniques which commercial chess programmers
have researched as a matter of course.


Life never gives second chance. Once Kasparov beat Karpov he remain
the world best. Still there is one saying "One who thinks can do a
thing will be able to do it. and one who thinks he cannot will never
be able to do it. So don't loose hope." Its upto you what you choose.


Hahaha! My little joke is being taken much too
seriously. I am mixing up some old movie materials
with a famous quote of Albert Einstein, which in
effect stated that although we chess players believe
we are doing something very clever, we are in fact
just wasting our time. Mr. Einstein spent his time on
science and math, but he was a failure as a chess
player and as an investor. One quote has him
elucidating the benefits of a simple life, which I see
as, well, making excuses for his financial blunders.
The same might well explain his negativity toward
chess, while befriending Dr. Lasker, who was in
fact the strongest chess player of all time back then.

But excuses or not, Mr. Einstein was right, relatively
speaking. There are a multitude of things one could
do which are more useful, more productive, more
valuable than playing chess.

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Old September 18th 07, 03:39 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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On Sep 17, 8:47 pm, (SAT W-7) wrote:
I am laughing at your superior intellect...

That was a good movie...


Oh yeah? If you want a piece of me, you're going
to have to come down here. Do you hear me, Khan?
You're going to have to come down here! (Oh, and
bring your set.)


-- Kirk out

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Old September 18th 07, 02:40 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
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A BEAUTIFUL MIND

But of course, I could never be world champion; this

is partly because chess is not important enough to
waste a valuable mind on. It's just a game; a complete waste
of time. Life is short. That's why I have given up chess
altogether. -- Help Bot

Greg Kennedy -- our embittered Indiana factory
worker and excuse-maker -- implies that he has "a valuable mind."

One can certainly debate whether chess is a waste
of time and intellectual energy (Raymond Chandler once
termed it the greatest waste of talent save for
Stalinist apologetics), but surely no one at rgcp who
recollects our Greg's varied claims would ever argue
that he is capable of wasting what he possesses not.


Its very interesting that a report, published

USATODAY.com - Billionaires bank on bridge to trump poker*

is the value that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet place on games - this one on
bridge, but they are interested in chess too. Maybe they see something
strategically important for US education and business? And who is to
gainsay this pair of billionaires?

the report says; "Now Gates and Buffett have hired Buffett's bridge partner,
Sharon Osberg, to start a program to teach contract bridge in junior high
schools. They've anted up $1 million to fund it.'

I saw elsewhere that they also tried to promote chess in NY metro area but
gave up because US Cloth-ears Federation were too ... um, tired?

Phil Innes

The Gregger once told us that he coulda been a
chess contendah except for his exile among the
cornpones of Indiana. He mighta perused Plautus,
mighta communed with Cicero, except that Indiana
forced him to read too many comic books during the 1960s.

A few years back, Greg had sufficient honesty to
acknowledge a certain vacuum between his aural
appendages. These days, he appears to be saying, a la
Kingsley Amis, I'm all right, Jack. (Whoosh -- that
gust of humid atmosphere was Greg rushing to Wiki to
look up the name of Kingsley Amis.)

He tells us, in this paraphrase of mine, "I used
to admit my intellectual shortcomings and invent
excuses for them. No longer, rgcp a-holes! Your Greg
is doing just fine headwise and always has done fine,
notwithstanding my modest efforts on this site. I
have always had a lot of brain to drain and intend to
waste no more. Hence, hasta la vista, ajedrez!"

Mama, chess made your Greg -- the guy who doesn't
agree with GM Ray Keene that taking back a move is such
a big deal -- read those comic books.

Yours, Larry Parr



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Old September 18th 07, 02:54 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default If you were the world Champion would you give up your title like

On Sep 17, 8:19 am, " wrote:

One can certainly debate whether chess is a waste
of time and intellectual energy (Raymond Chandler once
termed it the greatest waste of talent save for
Stalinist apologetics),


"Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can find
outside an advertising agency." I believe that's the quotation you
meant.

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Old September 18th 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
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THE HISTORIAN IS RIGHT

This quote from Raymond Chandler also appears in THIS CRAZY WORLD OF
CHESS by GM Larry Evans in his tribute to Arnold Denker. Hailed by the
publisher (Cardoza) as "the most controversial book ever written about
chess," it is due to reach bookstores this October. 20% off $9.95 is
ordered online from www.cardozapub.com

Yet players were penniless and people held them in low esteem. "Chess
is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can
find outside of an advertising agency," sneered novelist Raymond
Chandler.

In 1944 Arnie captured the USA Championship and gave exhibitions
at military bases. After the war, when the USSR crushed the USA in a
1945
radio match, he lamented, "Chess requires you full-time, but it
doesn't
assure you anywhere near an adequate income. The sooner we realize
this,
the sooner America will regain its prestige as the leading chess
nation."
Arnie had to go into business to support his family, then retired to
Florida with a bundle and financed scholastic chess. "Passing the
torch on
to the next generation was his great passion. It was his life, after
his family,"
said one of his sons.


The Historian wrote:
On Sep 17, 8:19 am, " wrote:

One can certainly debate whether chess is a waste
of time and intellectual energy (Raymond Chandler once
termed it the greatest waste of talent save for
Stalinist apologetics),


"Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can find
outside an advertising agency." I believe that's the quotation you
meant.


 




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