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Ron Suarez has posted a very good discussion of what has been going on
over at the USCF Forums for the past few weeks. I am reposting it here to preserve it, as it will likely be deleted from the Forums soon. Gregory Alexander has already responded with the same sort of rants and raves: Quote:
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Gregory Alexander writes:
"Would the lynch mob believe me?" I think this illustrates a serious problem we have with this board. Gregory Alexander is not a known chess player and joined the USCF for the first time in his life just a few months ago and was almost immediately given a bunch of high level, sensitive positions as FOC Member, moderator and so on. This has resulted in all kinds of trouble. Now he characterizes everybody outside of a small group of fellow- worshipers as a "Lynch Mob". Even such unlikely people as Randy Bauer (not previously known to be a great democrat) has come out against him. I do not agree that Gregory's statement "I never hacked into anyone's account, period" was a denial that he was The Fake Bill Goichberg. I do not think that there is any common agreement as to what a "hacker" is. One definition is a Hacker is someone involved in computer security/insecurity, specializing in the discovery of exploits in systems (for exploitation or prevention), or in obtaining or preventing unauthorized access to systems. If Gregory Alexander obtained Goichberg's password simply by looking over Goichberg's shoulder while he was logging in, he could justifiably say that he never hacked into Goichberg's account. The actual posting by the Fake Bill Goichberg does not bother me so much as the fact that it is apparent that Gregory Alexander has had Goichberg's password for a long time, at least a few weeks, and could have been regularly going there to read Goichberg's emails and PMs. Gregory Alexander is known to be closely affiliated with certain persons, Sweetie Pie and First Husband, and could well have been passing along top secret information to them. I am surprised that Goichberg has so far not expressed any interest or concern about this matter. During my entire one year on the board, Goichberg devoted himself to attacking me, writing letters to lawyers asking how to get rid of me, making repeated motions to censure or reprimand me, mailing 17,000 postcards to USCF members attacking me, telling the Chess Life editor not to publish my name in the magazine and so on, all without any reason or justification that I am aware of. Now, we find out that some authorized person has had Goichberg's password and access to his computer and Goichberg seems to be unconcerned about it. What is going on here? Sam Sloan |
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Have you noticed the following quote from Gregory Alexander. Think
about it for a moment: by gregory on Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:24 pm #75581 unless I am trying to get someone to back off that broke into my own systems first; I am not going to personally break into other peoples accounts. Last edited by gregory on Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:23 pm, edited 2 times in total. Gregory Alexander |
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Gregory Alexander writes: "Would the lynch mob believe me?" I think this illustrates a serious problem we have with this board. Gregory Alexander is not a known chess player and joined the USCF for the first time in his life just a few months ago and was almost immediately given a bunch of high level, sensitive positions as FOC Member, moderator and so on. This has resulted in all kinds of trouble. **Sam Sloan is either the most inatentive reader of all time, or he missed the fact that I already addressed this very subject - that the gent in question organised a coast to coast league of college chess - much supported by state of Oregon, BTW. Now he characterizes everybody outside of a small group of fellow-worshipers as a "Lynch Mob". Even such unlikely people as Randy Bauer (not previously known to be a great democrat) has come out against him. **Mr. Sloan's idea of himself as being in any majority of anything is peculiar indeed! What did Jan Newton say of him? How come Sam Sloan is shy to quote her - especially since Sloan poses as such a pro-woman advocate? Her eye-watering response is not admitted by Super-Sloan. I do not agree that Gregory's statement "I never hacked into anyone's account, period" was a denial that he was The Fake Bill Goichberg. I do not think that there is any common agreement as to what a "hacker" is. *** O... zzzz I should wonder why Sam Sloan couldn't admit that he had a felony offence to the US board, [since he disagreed on its basis - said resolution was unfair] should have any public business saying what commonly agreed-on terms should mean. Does Sam Sloan acknowledge that most people think he is a ****? Phil Innes Vermont --- One definition is a Hacker is someone involved in computer security/insecurity, specializing in the discovery of exploits in systems (for exploitation or prevention), or in obtaining or preventing unauthorized access to systems. If Gregory Alexander obtained Goichberg's password simply by looking over Goichberg's |
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Israel Silverman responds:
Quoted Material: "By his silence, he is creating a present public image problem and controversy. If this controversy continues to build, he may very well need to resign and the like, no matter the state of his innocence or guilt." Response: In this day and age, quite the contrary. Frequently, the guilty proclaim their innocence far and wide (I am thinking of a certain runner) and the innocent have brains and keep quiet as per advice of counsel. The truth usually will come out in the end, and there's no good reason to make noises until then. If innocent, people will understand why it was so /PI |
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**Sam Sloan is either the most inattentive reader of all time, or he
missed the fact that I already addressed this very subject - that the gent in question organized a coast to coast league of college chess - much supported by state of Oregon, BTW. Exactly -- small potatoes. And if the action was in Washington or Oregon...since they are fairly autonomous to USCF -- that's further evidence that his activity was outside of the present organization. Here we have the great divide and evidence of USCF as a failed organization, compared with others who actually promote chess. The Delegate says that organising in 6 states, plus military collegiate involvement [with WestPoint] which cost USCF not a penny, is 'outside the present organization'. But it is front and centre to USCF's mission. Mr. Alexander is here rubbished by a USCF delegate /for/ promoting chess, in an area which does not compete with USCF, yet who can still benefit by it - and who is now singled out for political reasons because he tried to work with USCF, but now works with others who /actually/ promote the game. If Mr. Alexander's efforts are 'small potatoes' then USCF never achieved as much in pioneering a college network, whether with 50 staff or the current 25, and therefore their own efforts would have to be called 'peanuts!' Phil Innes ECJ |
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I hope that everyone here realizes that "Chess One" Phil Innes is not
a USCF member, has not been a USCF member for 12 years and even then was only a member briefly, and now says that he wants the USCF to go out of business so that he can start his own rival organization. In short, when Phil Innes is advocating the case of Gregory Alexander here as well as Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell, Paul Truong and other ne'er-do-wells, he is not speaking for the best interests of the USCF and its members. Sam Sloan |
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On Oct 29, 6:35 am, samsloan wrote:
I hope that everyone here realizes that "Chess One" Phil Innes is not a USCF member, has not been a USCF member for 12 years and even then was only a member briefly, and now says that he wants the USCF to go out of business so that he can start his own rival organization. Why wait? Did Microsoft wait for Apple to go out of business? Innes is all hat and no cattle. In short, when Phil Innes is advocating the case of Gregory Alexander here as well as Rob ("the Robber") Mitchell, Paul Truong and other ne'er-do-wells, he is not speaking for the best interests of the USCF and its members. Sam Sloan |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:36:05 -0700, The Historian
wrote: On Oct 29, 6:35 am, samsloan wrote: I hope that everyone here realizes that "Chess One" Phil Innes is not a USCF member, has not been a USCF member for 12 years and even then was only a member briefly, and now says that he wants the USCF to go out of business so that he can start his own rival organization. Why wait? Did Microsoft wait for Apple to go out of business? Innes is all hat and no cattle. Any truth to the rumor that the hat is 4 and 7/8 ? |
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