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Old November 7th 07, 06:58 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Nov 6, 6:06 am, "Chess One" wrote:
Anyway, I think you have some fine ideas suitable for a tv program, an
Intellectual Jeux Sans Frontieres, and I have one remaining question - would
you happen to be a billionairre at all, like our Marcus here? If so, I would
like to introduce you to my colleage "Lex".


Phil
Why did I call myself a multimillionaire? Is there a reason? YES

You know Phil, in the context of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov election platform
to be elected as President of FIDE
(Kirsan claimed to be the richest man in Chess) I am dead right to
claim to be a multimillionaire, not a billionaire.
I admit, it appears obnoxious, but you saw Kirsan election site.
Simply put: Kirsan claims to be the richest man
in Chess. That is a lie, and I don't know how else to expose a lie.

I sit around here and post enough to prove I don't have a real job
other than to be here. In the middle of this
Paul Troung, your coworker's husband, threatened to kill me, about 20
times, I am at war with FIDE, FIDE
trades in slaves, and the list goes on.

We have had other rich people on this forum, if remember about 10
years ago.
The hard cold facts are there is an American national security
interest to contain Ilyumzhinov. I am sick of reading his bull****
lies about how rich he is. If you believe what he says, you will
worship him as a demigod or the antichrist. He damn sure doesn't care
about chess, or anyone else in his way. How else do you confront
Kirsan?

I just don't know how else to communicate with the Russians. If you
have any input, I will read what you have to say.

All the Russian respect is power. You might not like that, and I might
not like that, but that is fact. Money is power!


Marcus Roberts



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  #32  
Old November 7th 07, 12:21 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Chess One
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On Nov 6, 6:06 am, "Chess One" wrote:
Anyway, I think you have some fine ideas suitable for a tv program, an
Intellectual Jeux Sans Frontieres, and I have one remaining question -
would
you happen to be a billionairre at all, like our Marcus here? If so, I
would
like to introduce you to my colleage "Lex".


Phil
Why did I call myself a multimillionaire? Is there a reason? YES

You know Phil, in the context of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov election platform
to be elected as President of FIDE
(Kirsan claimed to be the richest man in Chess) I am dead right to
claim to be a multimillionaire, not a billionaire.
I admit, it appears obnoxious, but you saw Kirsan election site.
Simply put: Kirsan claims to be the richest man
in Chess. That is a lie, and I don't know how else to expose a lie.

I sit around here and post enough to prove I don't have a real job
other than to be here. In the middle of this
Paul Troung, your coworker's husband, threatened to kill me, about 20
times, I am at war with FIDE, FIDE
trades in slaves, and the list goes on.

We have had other rich people on this forum, if remember about 10
years ago.
The hard cold facts are there is an American national security
interest to contain Ilyumzhinov. I am sick of reading his bull****
lies about how rich he is. If you believe what he says, you will
worship him as a demigod or the antichrist. He damn sure doesn't care
about chess, or anyone else in his way. How else do you confront
Kirsan?

I just don't know how else to communicate with the Russians. If you
have any input, I will read what you have to say.

All the Russian respect is power. You might not like that, and I might
not like that, but that is fact. Money is power!


Marcus Roberts





  #33  
Old November 7th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Chess One
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ups.com...
On Nov 6, 6:06 am, "Chess One" wrote:
Anyway, I think you have some fine ideas suitable for a tv program, an
Intellectual Jeux Sans Frontieres, and I have one remaining question -
would
you happen to be a billionairre at all, like our Marcus here? If so, I
would
like to introduce you to my colleage "Lex".


Phil
Why did I call myself a multimillionaire? Is there a reason? YES

You know Phil, in the context of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov election platform
to be elected as President of FIDE
(Kirsan claimed to be the richest man in Chess) I am dead right to
claim to be a multimillionaire, not a billionaire.


O! what a shame. I seem to know 4 billionairres. Only 1 has any chess
involvement, but a couple of 'em are sports and games fans, and I merely
hoped... But let us 2 be serious:-

I admit, it appears obnoxious, but you saw Kirsan election site.
Simply put: Kirsan claims to be the richest man
in Chess. That is a lie, and I don't know how else to expose a lie.

I sit around here and post enough to prove I don't have a real job
other than to be here. In the middle of this
Paul Troung, your coworker's husband, threatened to kill me, about 20
times, I am at war with FIDE, FIDE
trades in slaves, and the list goes on.


I am not really a co-worker with his wife. But share a similar philosophy of
what forwards us, and what hinders us - and have done /some/ projects with
his wife, not so many really.

As for him, while the language in the offensive posts is intended to get
your goat - and did!- I recently told him that his English sucked!

He was gracious enough to laugh at the comment - but really, both he and she
commit on a regular basis un-americanisms - the very usual second-language
tropes and mixed high and low cant expressions, rather wooden adjectival
repetitions, confounded adverbs, and so on - both in speech and in writing,
while talking quietly and also with enthusiasm.

These things can be faked for sure, but over long periods of time,
especially under stressful circumstances, I rather doubt it is possible to
such an extent.

What the author "FSS" does is commit to a language which /is/
quintessentially of native-born American expression, without error or gaff
and in some 2,400 instances!

Quite a feat for a faker!

But this is but a detail, a minor one, if ever so exciting to specualte
upon. Below the surface, here is a deeper context:-

About 20 months ago Larry Parr counselled Sam Sloan here in these newsgroups
on his likely reception to the USCF board, and offered the caveats that he
should guard against personality intrigues which would negate the
prospective worth of what he could do during his term. It was very good
advice, and in fact percipient of events. That the advise was completely
ignored is no matter at all to my context.

What is very interesting about the current state of affairs is that the very
same situation has come about, utilizing this time, the ex cathedra factor
of suppositional identities to negate not one, but two elements on the board
who pose a similar threat to business as usual, as Sloan himself had -
though in fundamentally differing forms!

That is the 'political' context of this issue. As to the Crime, I suggested
here that we had not quite identified the primary victim - and indeed, while
matters are pending the right venue for expression, I can certainly say we
half not heard the half of it yet.


We have had other rich people on this forum, if remember about 10
years ago.
The hard cold facts are there is an American national security
interest to contain Ilyumzhinov. I am sick of reading his bull****
lies about how rich he is. If you believe what he says, you will
worship him as a demigod or the antichrist. He damn sure doesn't care
about chess, or anyone else in his way. How else do you confront
Kirsan?

I just don't know how else to communicate with the Russians. If you
have any input, I will read what you have to say.


I used to write with all sorts of people in Petersburg, with Khalifman to
make some NY arrangements for him in the Open before he was W Ch, and then
Taimanov and Svidler &c, plus some organisers.

In terms of chess in Russia, Petersburg is proud to be a somewhat insulated
island from the rest.

In Moscow I had some small correspondance with the head of their chess fed,
who is now #2 in government in the Dumas, behind pres. Putin. The most
likely agent to shift affairs overall was probably Mr. Roschal, [of 64], and
indeed we worked on some east-west projects until his illness overtook him.

If it is any relief to your feelings, even Kasparov Karpov and Kramnik could
not talk to Fide, not even as a unified group of world champions!!! [I
don't know how well this is known] - so! What I am saying is, don't take
/personal/ offence.

The problem with Fide is not that it is Russian, but that it is composed of
100% male burocrats - a class of person who does not administer across the
entire spectrum of chess events, but relates to other burocrats elsewhere,
on their own introverted concerns about their own status.

Not even Joel Lautier [with whom I also wrote a lot] as head of ACP could
get through to this class of person, and he, in effect, represented a vast
concensus of GM opinion. Recently writing with Nigel Short in England on
behalf of commonwealth chess would seem to further support all these views
of Fide's inertness. That is something of an understatement in Nigel's case]

But Joel is a /very/ conservative person, and in no sense radical. You see
the problem? It is not you - if these Greats in chess achieve
nothing-to-little over a long time... heuch!

Cordially, Phil Innes


All the Russian respect is power. You might not like that, and I might
not like that, but that is fact. Money is power!


Marcus Roberts





  #34  
Old November 7th 07, 09:55 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
marcuswroberts@hughes.net
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Default drug testing, why I can't play chess

On Nov 7, 5:54 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

On Nov 6, 6:06 am, "Chess One" wrote:
Anyway, I think you have some fine ideas suitable for a tv program, an
Intellectual Jeux Sans Frontieres, and I have one remaining question -
would
you happen to be a billionairre at all, like our Marcus here? If so, I
would
like to introduce you to my colleage "Lex".


Phil
Why did I call myself a multimillionaire? Is there a reason? YES


You know Phil, in the context of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov election platform
to be elected as President of FIDE
(Kirsan claimed to be the richest man in Chess) I am dead right to
claim to be a multimillionaire, not a billionaire.


O! what a shame. I seem to know 4 billionairres. Only 1 has any chess
involvement, but a couple of 'em are sports and games fans, and I merely
hoped... But let us 2 be serious:-

I admit, it appears obnoxious, but you saw Kirsan election site.
Simply put: Kirsan claims to be the richest man
in Chess. That is a lie, and I don't know how else to expose a lie.


I sit around here and post enough to prove I don't have a real job
other than to be here. In the middle of this
Paul Troung, your coworker's husband, threatened to kill me, about 20
times, I am at war with FIDE, FIDE
trades in slaves, and the list goes on.


I am not really a co-worker with his wife. But share a similar philosophy of
what forwards us, and what hinders us - and have done /some/ projects with
his wife, not so many really.

As for him, while the language in the offensive posts is intended to get
your goat - and did!- I recently told him that his English sucked!

He was gracious enough to laugh at the comment - but really, both he and she
commit on a regular basis un-americanisms - the very usual second-language
tropes and mixed high and low cant expressions, rather wooden adjectival
repetitions, confounded adverbs, and so on - both in speech and in writing,
while talking quietly and also with enthusiasm.

These things can be faked for sure, but over long periods of time,
especially under stressful circumstances, I rather doubt it is possible to
such an extent.

What the author "FSS" does is commit to a language which /is/
quintessentially of native-born American expression, without error or gaff
and in some 2,400 instances!

Quite a feat for a faker!

But this is but a detail, a minor one, if ever so exciting to specualte
upon. Below the surface, here is a deeper context:-

About 20 months ago Larry Parr counselled Sam Sloan here in these newsgroups
on his likely reception to the USCF board, and offered the caveats that he
should guard against personality intrigues which would negate the
prospective worth of what he could do during his term. It was very good
advice, and in fact percipient of events. That the advise was completely
ignored is no matter at all to my context.

What is very interesting about the current state of affairs is that the very
same situation has come about, utilizing this time, the ex cathedra factor
of suppositional identities to negate not one, but two elements on the board
who pose a similar threat to business as usual, as Sloan himself had -
though in fundamentally differing forms!

That is the 'political' context of this issue. As to the Crime, I suggested
here that we had not quite identified the primary victim - and indeed, while
matters are pending the right venue for expression, I can certainly say we
half not heard the half of it yet.

We have had other rich people on this forum, if remember about 10
years ago.
The hard cold facts are there is an American national security
interest to contain Ilyumzhinov. I am sick of reading his bull****
lies about how rich he is. If you believe what he says, you will
worship him as a demigod or the antichrist. He damn sure doesn't care
about chess, or anyone else in his way. How else do you confront
Kirsan?


I just don't know how else to communicate with the Russians. If you
have any input, I will read what you have to say.


I used to write with all sorts of people in Petersburg, with Khalifman to
make some NY arrangements for him in the Open before he was W Ch, and then
Taimanov and Svidler &c, plus some organisers.

In terms of chess in Russia, Petersburg is proud to be a somewhat insulated
island from the rest.

In Moscow I had some small correspondance with the head of their chess fed,
who is now #2 in government in the Dumas, behind pres. Putin. The most
likely agent to shift affairs overall was probably Mr. Roschal, [of 64], and
indeed we worked on some east-west projects until his illness overtook him.

If it is any relief to your feelings, even Kasparov Karpov and Kramnik could
not talk to Fide, not even as a unified group of world champions!!! [I
don't know how well this is known] - so! What I am saying is, don't take
/personal/ offence.

The problem with Fide is not that it is Russian, but that it is composed of
100% male burocrats - a class of person who does not administer across the
entire spectrum of chess events, but relates to other burocrats elsewhere,
on their own introverted concerns about their own status.

Not even Joel Lautier [with whom I also wrote a lot] as head of ACP could
get through to this class of person, and he, in effect, represented a vast
concensus of GM opinion. Recently writing with Nigel Short in England on
behalf of commonwealth chess would seem to further support all these views
of Fide's inertness. That is something of an understatement in Nigel's case]

But Joel is a /very/ conservative person, and in no sense radical. You see
the problem? It is not you - if these Greats in chess achieve
nothing-to-little over a long time... heuch!

Cordially, Phil Innes



All the Russian respect is power. You might not like that, and I might
not like that, but that is fact. Money is power!


Marcus Roberts- Hide quoted text -


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Dear Phil

Then you would support my charges that the IOC President is getting
himself involved in SLAVE TRAFFICKING, in violation
Of international law? That is, these Olympiads are really to traffic
in human beings, and I have done some legal research
That says SLAVE TRADERS do not enjoy diplomatic immunity. Chess is no
longer the man thrust of FIDE, it has turned
into something religious, lke Sciencetology, and L.Ron Hubbard!

If all of the chess tournaments move to Chess City, Russia because the
rest of earth bans Kirsan and his rouge gang in FIDE, so
Be it! I will not attend events in Chess City, Russia, even with /
diplomatic immunity/. My life has been threatened outside of FSS, and
it was Kirsan's people
Who made the threat? Barbados trades in slaves, and we are in a state
of war right now with them over that. I have evidence in the minutes.
FIDE Can't duck the charge! You need to tell
FSS that his life could be in DANGER by certain criminal elements
becasue FSS threatened to kill me when somebody else was also making
death threats. That somebody
else would represent a threat to FSS, in Chess City, Russia. A car
wreck, perhaps. A trial is too messy.

AntiChrist's method of communication is unqiue. Right now,
Kirsan calls me MEGADICK ten times a day, with spam. Sometimes, Sam
sloan finds the perfect
way to express things, and people copy it.

Sincerely,

Marcus Roberts



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Old November 8th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Chess One
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Dear Phil

Then you would support my charges that the IOC President is getting
himself involved in SLAVE TRAFFICKING, in violation
Of international law? That is, these Olympiads are really to traffic
in human beings, and I have done some legal research
That says SLAVE TRADERS do not enjoy diplomatic immunity. Chess is no
longer the man thrust of FIDE, it has turned
into something religious, lke Sciencetology, and L.Ron Hubbard!


Dear Marcus,

Don't forget the space ships, and the aliens themselves! not only were they
encountered, but The Leader liked them!

I am not really sure about the references to Slavers - and as you see from
my lengthy reponse self snipped on both PT and the FSS, plus 'Russian'
views by Russians themselves, many things are other than they appear.

I must reserve judgement, since I don't really understand much about IOC
activity beyond their current orientation to 'real' sports, rather than
games.

BACK TO PLANET EARTH

To be on topic - some other writers here have begun to speculate on
drug-use, even trans-gender 'issues' [a current euphemism], and take the
current, and nicely innocent activity of playing chess, and fold it in these
strange wrappers of ex cathedra context, which perhaps unwittingly confounds
the core issues - which are /not/ addressed, and these a-

a) The game does not suffer from drug use

b) Top players do not complain that others gain unfair advantage by taking
drugs

c) Relating the innocent activity of chess playing with sports&drugs culture
does not enhance chess, it achieves the opposite in two respects
- psychologically it suggests there is some drug which needs
suppressing,
- but the major denigration is political and burocratic, which want to
expand their fungus like grip on an otherwise healthy game by adding more
and more layers of nonsense over it, which has already included changing the
rules of the game.

LIKE-CHESS, ANYONE?

Any more of that and we will no longer play the same game as did Capa,
Alekhine and Fischer. And their motive to do whatever it takes to exercise a
little bit of control of others is very strongly established.

This lust for quite unnecessary money is an appetitite which is not sated by
being fed. In fact, the administration of chess, at home and abroad actually
keeping regular commercial sponsorships at bay, is not exactly a secret.

For these reasons I do not encourage yet another level of insensible
management layered over a dysfunction national federation, which is already
at odds with a world federation, by yet another stratum of completely
inconsequential management activity by IOC which...

does nothing for the game itself, as measured or valued

-- by its players --


Vykod est! Phil Innes


If all of the chess tournaments move to Chess City, Russia because the
rest of earth bans Kirsan and his rouge gang in FIDE, so
Be it! I will not attend events in Chess City, Russia, even with /
diplomatic immunity/. My life has been threatened outside of FSS, and
it was Kirsan's people
Who made the threat? Barbados trades in slaves, and we are in a state
of war right now with them over that. I have evidence in the minutes.
FIDE Can't duck the charge! You need to tell
FSS that his life could be in DANGER by certain criminal elements
becasue FSS threatened to kill me when somebody else was also making
death threats. That somebody
else would represent a threat to FSS, in Chess City, Russia. A car
wreck, perhaps. A trial is too messy.

AntiChrist's method of communication is unqiue. Right now,
Kirsan calls me MEGADICK ten times a day, with spam. Sometimes, Sam
sloan finds the perfect
way to express things, and people copy it.

Sincerely,

Marcus Roberts





 




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