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Old November 2nd 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 82)

Just Testing


Two players had their scores erased at the 2004 World Team
Championship in Calvia because they refused to comply with a "random"
drug test demanded by FIDE. Yet many people wonder why there is any
need to enforce Olympic restrictions now that both the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) and the USA Olympic Committee (USOC) have
flatly rejected chess as a sport.

On August 20, 2001, Larry Parr and I wrote a position paper for the
FIDE Advisory Committee of the USCF. We argued that FIDE initiated
drug testing knowing full well that chess was a nonstarter in the
summer or winter Olympics for the simple reason that it's not an
athletic sport and we analyzed FIDE's real motives.

Our main points still stand, though there are some anachronisms. Jim
Eade no longer is our zonal president and the new rules, though
shorter, refer all questions to WADA regulations which are even
tougher than those we cited. Therefore, the net result is that the
situation is even worse than what we concluded.


wrote:
You know, I wouldn't trust my medcial records with FIDE. The idea that
a murderor can test
other people for drug use (the President of FIDE) and then have the
power to throw you out of chess
is just disgusting. Kirsan respects power.

You can't trust FIDE with medical data. You can't take a drug test if
you have medical problems.

Kirsan will BLACKMAIL you with your own medical records.

Ilyumzhinov is about to be accused of BLACKMAIL, and some other
things...

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

Hingis Denies Cocaine Report, Retires
Tennis Star Martina Hingis Denies Cocaine Use, Announces Retirement
Swiss tennis player Martina Hingis faces the press, Thursday, Nov. 1,
2007 in Glattbrugg, Switzerland. Martina Hingis said she has been
accused of testing positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, and announced
her retirement from professional tennis. Hingis, a five-time Grand
Slam champion and former Wimbledon winner, denied using cocaine. (AP
Photo/Keystone/Walter Bieri) The Associated Press ZURICH, Switzerland
Nov 1, 2007 (AP)
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Share Martina Hingis said Thursday she has been accused of testing
positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, but she denied using the drug. She
also announced her retirement from professional tennis.

"I find this accusation so horrendous, so monstrous that I've decided
to confront it head on by talking to the press," she said. "I am
frustrated and angry. I believe that I am absolutely 100 percent
innocent."

Related Stories
Text of Statement by Martina HingisDavydenko Cited for 'Lack of Best
Effort'Tennis Officials: This Sport Is CleanPHOTOS: Federer, Roddick
Advance at Wimbledon'On-Court Runway' Takes Tennis Spotlight Game,
Set...Fix? Tennis Confronts ScandalTop ESPN Sports stories
Big Ten Fans Left on the BenchHingis Investigated for Alleged Cocaine
Use No Deal Yet: Torre in Line With Others
Her voice broke as she fought back tears in reading the statement. At
the end, she took no questions and left the news conference.

The 27-year-old Swiss player lost in the third round at Wimbledon to
Laura Granville, 6-4, 6-2.

Hingis said the positive test, which could lead to a doping suspension
of up to two years, led to her retirement because she doesn't want to
spend years fighting the case.

Mario Widmer, Hingis' manager, said he did not know why she waited
until now to make the announcement.

Hingis returned to the sport two years ago after a four-year absence
because of injuries.

She won three straight Australian Open titles from 1997-99, and
Wimbledon and the U.S. Open championships in 1997. She came within one
match of winning the Grand Slam in 1997, losing only in the French
Open final.

On March 31, 1997, Hingis became the youngest female player ever to
lead the world rankings. She was 16 years, 6 months and 1 day at the
time. She is currently ranked No. 19.

Hingis, who lost in the third round of the U.S. Open, hasn't played
since her second-round loss to Peng Shuai of China, 7-5, 6-1, in
Beijing on Sept. 19.

Former top-ranked player Mats Wilander and Karel Novacek had positive
tests for cocaine at the 1995 French Open. Both were banned for three
months and ordered to return prize money and forfeit rankings points.

Others have tested positive for a variety of banned substances.

Hingis said she was accused by "an outsource testing company" of
taking cocaine during Wimbledon. She said she was "shocked and
appalled" when notified that her urine sample came back positive after
the loss to Granville.


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Old November 2nd 07, 01:24 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Nov 1, 7:33 pm, " wrote:
THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 82)

Just Testing

Two players had their scores erased at the 2004 World Team
Championship in Calvia because they refused to comply with a "random"
drug test demanded by FIDE. Yet many people wonder why there is any
need to enforce Olympic restrictions now that both the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) and the USA Olympic Committee (USOC) have
flatly rejected chess as a sport.

On August 20, 2001, Larry Parr and I wrote a position paper for the
FIDE Advisory Committee of the USCF. We argued that FIDE initiated
drug testing knowing full well that chess was a nonstarter in the
summer or winter Olympics for the simple reason that it's not an
athletic sport and we analyzed FIDE's real motives.

Our main points still stand, though there are some anachronisms. Jim
Eade no longer is our zonal president and the new rules, though
shorter, refer all questions to WADA regulations which are even
tougher than those we cited. Therefore, the net result is that the
situation is even worse than what we concluded.



wrote:
You know, I wouldn't trust my medcial records with FIDE. The idea that
a murderor can test
other people for drug use (the President of FIDE) and then have the
power to throw you out of chess
is just disgusting. Kirsan respects power.


You can't trust FIDE with medical data. You can't take a drug test if
you have medical problems.


Kirsan will BLACKMAIL you with your own medical records.


Ilyumzhinov is about to be accused of BLACKMAIL, and some other
things...


Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE


Hingis Denies Cocaine Report, Retires
Tennis Star Martina Hingis Denies Cocaine Use, Announces Retirement
Swiss tennis player Martina Hingis faces the press, Thursday, Nov. 1,
2007 in Glattbrugg, Switzerland. Martina Hingis said she has been
accused of testing positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, and announced
her retirement from professional tennis. Hingis, a five-time Grand
Slam champion and former Wimbledon winner, denied using cocaine. (AP
Photo/Keystone/Walter Bieri) The Associated Press ZURICH, Switzerland
Nov 1, 2007 (AP)
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Share Martina Hingis said Thursday she has been accused of testing
positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, but she denied using the drug. She
also announced her retirement from professional tennis.


"I find this accusation so horrendous, so monstrous that I've decided
to confront it head on by talking to the press," she said. "I am
frustrated and angry. I believe that I am absolutely 100 percent
innocent."


Related Stories
Text of Statement by Martina HingisDavydenko Cited for 'Lack of Best
Effort'Tennis Officials: This Sport Is CleanPHOTOS: Federer, Roddick
Advance at Wimbledon'On-Court Runway' Takes Tennis Spotlight Game,
Set...Fix? Tennis Confronts ScandalTop ESPN Sports stories
Big Ten Fans Left on the BenchHingis Investigated for Alleged Cocaine
Use No Deal Yet: Torre in Line With Others
Her voice broke as she fought back tears in reading the statement. At
the end, she took no questions and left the news conference.


The 27-year-old Swiss player lost in the third round at Wimbledon to
Laura Granville, 6-4, 6-2.


Hingis said the positive test, which could lead to a doping suspension
of up to two years, led to her retirement because she doesn't want to
spend years fighting the case.


Mario Widmer, Hingis' manager, said he did not know why she waited
until now to make the announcement.


Hingis returned to the sport two years ago after a four-year absence
because of injuries.


She won three straight Australian Open titles from 1997-99, and
Wimbledon and the U.S. Open championships in 1997. She came within one
match of winning the Grand Slam in 1997, losing only in the French
Open final.


On March 31, 1997, Hingis became the youngest female player ever to
lead the world rankings. She was 16 years, 6 months and 1 day at the
time. She is currently ranked No. 19.


Hingis, who lost in the third round of the U.S. Open, hasn't played
since her second-round loss to Peng Shuai of China, 7-5, 6-1, in
Beijing on Sept. 19.


Former top-ranked player Mats Wilander and Karel Novacek had positive
tests for cocaine at the 1995 French Open. Both were banned for three
months and ordered to return prize money and forfeit rankings points.


Others have tested positive for a variety of banned substances.


Hingis said she was accused by "an outsource testing company" of
taking cocaine during Wimbledon. She said she was "shocked and
appalled" when notified that her urine sample came back positive after
the loss to Granville.- Hide quoted text -


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If I take controlled substances, then I have to go get a waiver, and
Kirsan gets all of my data
to release, blackmail, and extort. I confirmed this when Tim Redman,
former USCF President,
told me he got to look at everyone's medical records HIMSELF.

I take some drugs which Kirsan could possibly use against me. Yet,
there is no way
to enforce pricacy, becasue FIDE can't provide a complete list of
banned drugs.

They find a new drug, and then they decide, depending on who you
are....

Marcus Roberts

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Old November 2nd 07, 07:33 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Nov 1, 7:33 pm, " wrote:

Two players had their scores erased at the 2004 World Team
Championship in Calvia because they refused to comply with a "random"
drug test demanded by FIDE. Yet many people wonder why there is any
need to enforce Olympic restrictions now that both the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) and the USA Olympic Committee (USOC) have
flatly rejected chess as a sport.

On August 20, 2001, Larry Parr and I wrote a position paper for the
FIDE Advisory Committee of the USCF. We argued that FIDE initiated
drug testing knowing full well that chess was a nonstarter in the
summer or winter Olympics for the simple reason that it's not an
athletic sport and we analyzed FIDE's real motives.


I'm going to go out on a limb here -- not knowing who
those two players were -- and take a guess: the purported
motive of FIDE was to gain control, to get some leverage
with which they could silence vocal critics or even put the
whammy on especially annoying ones (like say, GM
Evans).

But here is my challenge: name those two players, and
tell us if they were vocal critics of FIDE or not. I'm going
to guess that they were not vocal critics of FIDE, that they
did not need silencing, and that maybe suspicion was
aroused by unusual *performances* (like when I downed a
stay-awake pill and later found that I was cleaning house,
which is /very unusual/ for me.


Our main points still stand, though there are some anachronisms. Jim
Eade no longer is our zonal president and the new rules, though
shorter, refer all questions to WADA regulations which are even
tougher than those we cited. Therefore, the net result is that the
situation is even worse than what we concluded.


All I can say is that when these two crackpots sit
down to try and figure out other people's motives, the
results can be... well, bizarre.

Following the kind of "logic" favored by people like
them, I now have "proof positive" that Jose Capablanca
was consulting computers in his 1914 win over David
Janowski! There is no denying the near-perfect
matching of Mr. Capablanca's moves -- a statistical
near-impossibility. The conclusion is obvious: he
time-traveled into the future, consulted Rybka or Fritz
and then went back and played the winning moves.

This also explains the phenomenon of JC having the
greatest correlation overall with Fritz/Rybka of *any*
world champ. Case closed.


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Old November 2nd 07, 09:43 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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ps.com...
THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 82)

Just Testing


Two players had their scores erased at the 2004 World Team
Championship in Calvia because they refused to comply with a "random"
drug test demanded by FIDE. Yet many people wonder why there is any
need to enforce Olympic restrictions now that both the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) and the USA Olympic Committee (USOC) have
flatly rejected chess as a sport.

On August 20, 2001, Larry Parr and I wrote a position paper for the
FIDE Advisory Committee of the USCF. We argued that FIDE initiated
drug testing knowing full well that chess was a nonstarter in the
summer or winter Olympics for the simple reason that it's not an
athletic sport and we analyzed FIDE's real motives.


Dear Larry[s], I remember our big hoo-hah here with John Fernandez and
others.

After these events I interviewed Dr. Stephen J. Press, DC, PhD, CCSP, FACSM,
FICC
Past-Acting President, and Founder, FIDE Medical Commission
at http://www.chessville.com/Editorials...tualSports.htm

on his desire to make his own un-edited statements on ths issue, to whatever
length he wished. The article above was simply an op-ed piece, with
graphics added by CV staff.

While many anti-drug people saw testing as merely a means for Fide to
control players, Dr. Press pursues the straight medical line [if vaguely]
with such commentary as this

"Initially, many people, I assume even those in the IOC, thought this
not a little strange, though a necessary evil, if you will. But when we
started to actually look at what the issues really were, and whether any of
this actually made sense, we quickly found it did! Based on available
medical literature, there was no question but that certain substances could,
in fact augment mental performance, or at least had the potential to do so."

And as if to clinch matters on a medical basis, we have to go behind the
curtain, to Leipzig, no less, and to learn about something we chess players
talk about all the time, 'last hour syndrome,' or, when a cup of joe just
ain't enough....

"Jay Leno, on the eve of my speech to the USCF in Massachusetts, when I
appeared for FIDE to explain the new rules, gave his monologue about my
speech, talking about all the Chess players "bulking up on steroids" to move
those heavy pieces around. Funny stuff? On the surface it looked like it.
But it turned out that a study done in Leipzig, East Germany, before the
reunification, showed that Chess players who were trained physically, like
other athletes, were better enabled to deal with the dreaded "last hour
syndrome" which afflicts International players at the worst possible time."

But here comes the gentleman's own motivation! Its not 'morons' who take
drugs to win, its the fear that his own will emulate them )

"I really don't give a hoot about the idiot who is so desperate to win
that s/he will jeopardize his/her own health for the sake of a medal. It's
that this moron's winning and the next one's too, result in a system in
which MY child has to use these substances if s/he wants to be able to
compete on a level paying field, and THAT is what I cannot tolerate."

So you see Larry[s], its not so much a medical condition, as a pyschological
condition the gentleman wants to engage, and indeed, to fight his own
parental doubts this way. And so, the mechanism as usual, is to project
varieties of cheating druggies onto the chess scene, and resent the fact
that his own child may not have the sense to resist emulating what they
believe is being achieved.

The rather absurd consequence is to take rather more likely role-models for
children, such as Hollywood stars, and make sure they aren't smoking any
weed at the back of the studio, albeit, that substance does not enhance
mental performance either.

Phil Innes

Our main points still stand, though there are some anachronisms. Jim
Eade no longer is our zonal president and the new rules, though
shorter, refer all questions to WADA regulations which are even
tougher than those we cited. Therefore, the net result is that the
situation is even worse than what we concluded.


wrote:
You know, I wouldn't trust my medcial records with FIDE. The idea that
a murderor can test
other people for drug use (the President of FIDE) and then have the
power to throw you out of chess
is just disgusting. Kirsan respects power.

You can't trust FIDE with medical data. You can't take a drug test if
you have medical problems.

Kirsan will BLACKMAIL you with your own medical records.

Ilyumzhinov is about to be accused of BLACKMAIL, and some other
things...

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

Hingis Denies Cocaine Report, Retires
Tennis Star Martina Hingis Denies Cocaine Use, Announces Retirement
Swiss tennis player Martina Hingis faces the press, Thursday, Nov. 1,
2007 in Glattbrugg, Switzerland. Martina Hingis said she has been
accused of testing positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, and announced
her retirement from professional tennis. Hingis, a five-time Grand
Slam champion and former Wimbledon winner, denied using cocaine. (AP
Photo/Keystone/Walter Bieri) The Associated Press ZURICH, Switzerland
Nov 1, 2007 (AP)
Font Size

E-mail
Print
Share Martina Hingis said Thursday she has been accused of testing
positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, but she denied using the drug. She
also announced her retirement from professional tennis.

"I find this accusation so horrendous, so monstrous that I've decided
to confront it head on by talking to the press," she said. "I am
frustrated and angry. I believe that I am absolutely 100 percent
innocent."

Related Stories
Text of Statement by Martina HingisDavydenko Cited for 'Lack of Best
Effort'Tennis Officials: This Sport Is CleanPHOTOS: Federer, Roddick
Advance at Wimbledon'On-Court Runway' Takes Tennis Spotlight Game,
Set...Fix? Tennis Confronts ScandalTop ESPN Sports stories
Big Ten Fans Left on the BenchHingis Investigated for Alleged Cocaine
Use No Deal Yet: Torre in Line With Others
Her voice broke as she fought back tears in reading the statement. At
the end, she took no questions and left the news conference.

The 27-year-old Swiss player lost in the third round at Wimbledon to
Laura Granville, 6-4, 6-2.

Hingis said the positive test, which could lead to a doping suspension
of up to two years, led to her retirement because she doesn't want to
spend years fighting the case.

Mario Widmer, Hingis' manager, said he did not know why she waited
until now to make the announcement.

Hingis returned to the sport two years ago after a four-year absence
because of injuries.

She won three straight Australian Open titles from 1997-99, and
Wimbledon and the U.S. Open championships in 1997. She came within one
match of winning the Grand Slam in 1997, losing only in the French
Open final.

On March 31, 1997, Hingis became the youngest female player ever to
lead the world rankings. She was 16 years, 6 months and 1 day at the
time. She is currently ranked No. 19.

Hingis, who lost in the third round of the U.S. Open, hasn't played
since her second-round loss to Peng Shuai of China, 7-5, 6-1, in
Beijing on Sept. 19.

Former top-ranked player Mats Wilander and Karel Novacek had positive
tests for cocaine at the 1995 French Open. Both were banned for three
months and ordered to return prize money and forfeit rankings points.

Others have tested positive for a variety of banned substances.

Hingis said she was accused by "an outsource testing company" of
taking cocaine during Wimbledon. She said she was "shocked and
appalled" when notified that her urine sample came back positive after
the loss to Granville.




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Old November 2nd 07, 11:53 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 78)

Politics reared its ugly head at the Thirty-Sixth Chess Olympiad in
Calvia, Spain, where the Ukraine captured the gold ahead of Russia and
Armenia among 129 teams. The USA took fourth, its best showing in
years, but the entire 6-man squad including the captain consisted of
Russian immigrants. A wag called it "The Russian B Team."

The USA women's team silver medalist Susan Polgar also earned a gold
medal for the best individual result on board one. New York State
Governor Pataki with Kasparov in the center gave her a plaque.
Hungary's Polgar led the USA women's team to a silver medal behind
China but ahead of Russia among 87 nations. After the last game she
was singled out for a degrading urine test even though no known drug
has ever enhanced chess performance.

THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS (page 72)

The Polgar sisters, who are Jewish, have long been a thorn in the side
of FIDE, which is clearly an anti-Semitic organization. For an account
of how every woman in the world except Susan Polgar got 100 free
rating points, see "Rigging Ratings." This scandal took place at the
Chess Olympiad in the United Arab Emirates in 1986 where a team from
Israel was banned.

In 2004 Susan led the USA women's team to a silver medal. She was the
individual high-scorer on board one, and then was singled out for a
humiliating "random" dope test, which she dared not refuse on pain of
having her team's result erased. Thus FIDE made the USCF eat crow for
publicly taking a stand against dope testing.




Chess One wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...
THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 82)

Just Testing


Two players had their scores erased at the 2004 World Team
Championship in Calvia because they refused to comply with a "random"
drug test demanded by FIDE. Yet many people wonder why there is any
need to enforce Olympic restrictions now that both the International
Olympic Committee (IOC) and the USA Olympic Committee (USOC) have
flatly rejected chess as a sport.

On August 20, 2001, Larry Parr and I wrote a position paper for the
FIDE Advisory Committee of the USCF. We argued that FIDE initiated
drug testing knowing full well that chess was a nonstarter in the
summer or winter Olympics for the simple reason that it's not an
athletic sport and we analyzed FIDE's real motives.


Dear Larry[s], I remember our big hoo-hah here with John Fernandez and
others.

After these events I interviewed Dr. Stephen J. Press, DC, PhD, CCSP, FACSM,
FICC
Past-Acting President, and Founder, FIDE Medical Commission
at http://www.chessville.com/Editorials...tualSports.htm

on his desire to make his own un-edited statements on ths issue, to whatever
length he wished. The article above was simply an op-ed piece, with
graphics added by CV staff.

While many anti-drug people saw testing as merely a means for Fide to
control players, Dr. Press pursues the straight medical line [if vaguely]
with such commentary as this

"Initially, many people, I assume even those in the IOC, thought this
not a little strange, though a necessary evil, if you will. But when we
started to actually look at what the issues really were, and whether any of
this actually made sense, we quickly found it did! Based on available
medical literature, there was no question but that certain substances could,
in fact augment mental performance, or at least had the potential to do so."

And as if to clinch matters on a medical basis, we have to go behind the
curtain, to Leipzig, no less, and to learn about something we chess players
talk about all the time, 'last hour syndrome,' or, when a cup of joe just
ain't enough....

"Jay Leno, on the eve of my speech to the USCF in Massachusetts, when I
appeared for FIDE to explain the new rules, gave his monologue about my
speech, talking about all the Chess players "bulking up on steroids" to move
those heavy pieces around. Funny stuff? On the surface it looked like it.
But it turned out that a study done in Leipzig, East Germany, before the
reunification, showed that Chess players who were trained physically, like
other athletes, were better enabled to deal with the dreaded "last hour
syndrome" which afflicts International players at the worst possible time."

But here comes the gentleman's own motivation! Its not 'morons' who take
drugs to win, its the fear that his own will emulate them )

"I really don't give a hoot about the idiot who is so desperate to win
that s/he will jeopardize his/her own health for the sake of a medal. It's
that this moron's winning and the next one's too, result in a system in
which MY child has to use these substances if s/he wants to be able to
compete on a level paying field, and THAT is what I cannot tolerate."

So you see Larry[s], its not so much a medical condition, as a pyschological
condition the gentleman wants to engage, and indeed, to fight his own
parental doubts this way. And so, the mechanism as usual, is to project
varieties of cheating druggies onto the chess scene, and resent the fact
that his own child may not have the sense to resist emulating what they
believe is being achieved.

The rather absurd consequence is to take rather more likely role-models for
children, such as Hollywood stars, and make sure they aren't smoking any
weed at the back of the studio, albeit, that substance does not enhance
mental performance either.

Phil Innes

Our main points still stand, though there are some anachronisms. Jim
Eade no longer is our zonal president and the new rules, though
shorter, refer all questions to WADA regulations which are even
tougher than those we cited. Therefore, the net result is that the
situation is even worse than what we concluded.


wrote:
You know, I wouldn't trust my medcial records with FIDE. The idea that
a murderor can test
other people for drug use (the President of FIDE) and then have the
power to throw you out of chess
is just disgusting. Kirsan respects power.

You can't trust FIDE with medical data. You can't take a drug test if
you have medical problems.

Kirsan will BLACKMAIL you with your own medical records.

Ilyumzhinov is about to be accused of BLACKMAIL, and some other
things...

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

Hingis Denies Cocaine Report, Retires
Tennis Star Martina Hingis Denies Cocaine Use, Announces Retirement
Swiss tennis player Martina Hingis faces the press, Thursday, Nov. 1,
2007 in Glattbrugg, Switzerland. Martina Hingis said she has been
accused of testing positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, and announced
her retirement from professional tennis. Hingis, a five-time Grand
Slam champion and former Wimbledon winner, denied using cocaine. (AP
Photo/Keystone/Walter Bieri) The Associated Press ZURICH, Switzerland
Nov 1, 2007 (AP)
Font Size

E-mail
Print
Share Martina Hingis said Thursday she has been accused of testing
positive for cocaine at Wimbledon, but she denied using the drug. She
also announced her retirement from professional tennis.

"I find this accusation so horrendous, so monstrous that I've decided
to confront it head on by talking to the press," she said. "I am
frustrated and angry. I believe that I am absolutely 100 percent
innocent."

Related Stories
Text of Statement by Martina HingisDavydenko Cited for 'Lack of Best
Effort'Tennis Officials: This Sport Is CleanPHOTOS: Federer, Roddick
Advance at Wimbledon'On-Court Runway' Takes Tennis Spotlight Game,
Set...Fix? Tennis Confronts ScandalTop ESPN Sports stories
Big Ten Fans Left on the BenchHingis Investigated for Alleged Cocaine
Use No Deal Yet: Torre in Line With Others
Her voice broke as she fought back tears in reading the statement. At
the end, she took no questions and left the news conference.

The 27-year-old Swiss player lost in the third round at Wimbledon to
Laura Granville, 6-4, 6-2.

Hingis said the positive test, which could lead to a doping suspension
of up to two years, led to her retirement because she doesn't want to
spend years fighting the case.

Mario Widmer, Hingis' manager, said he did not know why she waited
until now to make the announcement.

Hingis returned to the sport two years ago after a four-year absence
because of injuries.

She won three straight Australian Open titles from 1997-99, and
Wimbledon and the U.S. Open championships in 1997. She came within one
match of winning the Grand Slam in 1997, losing only in the French
Open final.

On March 31, 1997, Hingis became the youngest female player ever to
lead the world rankings. She was 16 years, 6 months and 1 day at the
time. She is currently ranked No. 19.

Hingis, who lost in the third round of the U.S. Open, hasn't played
since her second-round loss to Peng Shuai of China, 7-5, 6-1, in
Beijing on Sept. 19.

Former top-ranked player Mats Wilander and Karel Novacek had positive
tests for cocaine at the 1995 French Open. Both were banned for three
months and ordered to return prize money and forfeit rankings points.

Others have tested positive for a variety of banned substances.

Hingis said she was accused by "an outsource testing company" of
taking cocaine during Wimbledon. She said she was "shocked and
appalled" when notified that her urine sample came back positive after
the loss to Granville.



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Old November 2nd 07, 01:13 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Nov 2, 6:53 am, " wrote:

The USA women's team silver medalist Susan Polgar also earned a gold
medal for the best individual result on board one. New York State
Governor Pataki with Kasparov in the center gave her a plaque.
Hungary's Polgar led the USA women's team to a silver medal behind
China but ahead of Russia among 87 nations. After the last game she
was singled out for a degrading urine test even though no known drug
has ever enhanced chess performance.


That's quite a claim, there. To my knowledge (and I
expect, to the knowledge of everyone else) there is no
evidence whatever to support such a reckless claim.


The Polgar sisters, who are Jewish, have long been a thorn in the side
of FIDE, which is clearly an anti-Semitic organization. For an account
of how every woman in the world except Susan Polgar got 100 free
rating points, see "Rigging Ratings." This scandal took place at the
Chess Olympiad in the United Arab Emirates in 1986 where a team from
Israel was banned.


Incoherent argument. If "every woman in the world"
except Susan Polgar was awarded 100 rating points,
that would mean that two-out-of-three of the Polgar
sisters got 100 free rating points; that hardly argues
for an anti-Jewish bias in FIDE, but it does show how
ratings can be manipulated, just as they were in the
USCF (it is possible that the intended victim in that
case was in fact Jewish -- I don't know).


In 2004 Susan led the USA women's team to a silver medal. She was the
individual high-scorer on board one, and then was singled out for a
humiliating "random" dope test, which she dared not refuse on pain of
having her team's result erased. Thus FIDE made the USCF eat crow for
publicly taking a stand against dope testing.


A good journalist would investigate the methodology
of the "random" drug tests; show that they are perhaps
not random at all, but ordered by some honcho within
FIDE. Too bad we don't have one of those guys handy.


Here are a few ideas on drugs to enhance chess play:

1) cocaine

2) caffeine

3) "Focus Factor"

4) multivitamins


Many times I have heard some commercial or read
somewhere an ad proclaiming a certain drug, herb, or
vitamin will enhance mental acuity, but by and large
about half of such claims turn out to be unsupported
by facts, while others are simply exaggerations of a
very real potential effect.

Let's skip over cocaine for a moment, and look at
Focus Factor; advertisements have offered a money
back guarantee if this combination of whatever it is
fails to have a beneficial effect, and that's a bit
unusual since a lot of folks will try and get their
money back regardless, and that's expensive.

Caffeine can cause premature mental burnout if
not utilized carefully, but there can be no doubt as
to its efficacy in aiding mental alertness -- for a
while anyway.

Multivitamins largely remedy deficiencies of
legitimately-needed chemicals, but this nevertheless
can help in cases where any are in short supply.

My guess is that cocaine, *if* detectable apart from
other similar drugs, could be banned outright. But
with caffeine -- a legal drug -- a fairly high limit
would need to be set so that everyone is on a level
playing field. That, or allow unlimited doses, and
see what happens to the slow thinkers. I think the
others I mentioned are complex combinations of
things, and as such it may be impractical to try and
regulate them, even assuming that is a good idea.
No doubt many more chemicals or drugs or herbs
could be added to this list.

I think it is fairly likely that those who are obsessed
with this issue are so on account of another drug --
marijuana -- which is not even relevant here (unless I
am mistaken). I seriously doubt that use of marijuana
is the target of such testing, since it likely has a
*detrimental* effect on chess play. So you guys can
relax. But remember that you are still polluting your
lungs with smoke -- even if there is no nicotine in it.
This also explains a lot as far as the incoherence of
certain of your arguments... .


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Old November 2nd 07, 01:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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TALKING THROUGH HIS HAT

If "every woman in the world" except Susan Polgar was awarded 100
rating points,
that would mean that two-out-of-three of the Polgar sisters got 100
free rating points; that hardly argues for an anti-Jewish bias in
FIDE, but it does show how ratings can be manipulated, just as they
were in the USCF (it is possible that the intended victim in that case
was in fact Jewish -- I don't know). -- Unhelpful Bot

It didn't matter whether her sisters got 100 free points or were even
on the list when this fiasco occurred. Susan Polgar, born in 1969, was
17 in 1986.

Sofia Polgar, born in 1974, was only 12. Judith Polgar, born in 1976,
was only 10.

The purpose of cheating Susan Polgar out of 100 points was to bump her
from the top of the women's rating list to number two behind a Soviet
player during a heated FIDE presidential campaign at Dubai in 1986. It
was part of a ploy by Campo to secure votes from the Soviet bloc.

Greg Kennedy should do more research instead of talking through his
hat again.




help bot wrote:
On Nov 2, 6:53 am, " wrote:

The USA women's team silver medalist Susan Polgar also earned a gold
medal for the best individual result on board one. New York State
Governor Pataki with Kasparov in the center gave her a plaque.
Hungary's Polgar led the USA women's team to a silver medal behind
China but ahead of Russia among 87 nations. After the last game she
was singled out for a degrading urine test even though no known drug
has ever enhanced chess performance.


That's quite a claim, there. To my knowledge (and I
expect, to the knowledge of everyone else) there is no
evidence whatever to support such a reckless claim.


The Polgar sisters, who are Jewish, have long been a thorn in the side
of FIDE, which is clearly an anti-Semitic organization. For an account
of how every woman in the world except Susan Polgar got 100 free
rating points, see "Rigging Ratings." This scandal took place at the
Chess Olympiad in the United Arab Emirates in 1986 where a team from
Israel was banned.


Incoherent argument. If "every woman in the world"
except Susan Polgar was awarded 100 rating points,
that would mean that two-out-of-three of the Polgar
sisters got 100 free rating points; that hardly argues
for an anti-Jewish bias in FIDE, but it does show how
ratings can be manipulated, just as they were in the
USCF (it is possible that the intended victim in that
case was in fact Jewish -- I don't know).


In 2004 Susan led the USA women's team to a silver medal. She was the
individual high-scorer on board one, and then was singled out for a
humiliating "random" dope test, which she dared not refuse on pain of
having her team's result erased. Thus FIDE made the USCF eat crow for
publicly taking a stand against dope testing.


A good journalist would investigate the methodology
of the "random" drug tests; show that they are perhaps
not random at all, but ordered by some honcho within
FIDE. Too bad we don't have one of those guys handy.


Here are a few ideas on drugs to enhance chess play:

1) cocaine

2) caffeine

3) "Focus Factor"

4) multivitamins


Many times I have heard some commercial or read
somewhere an ad proclaiming a certain drug, herb, or
vitamin will enhance mental acuity, but by and large
about half of such claims turn out to be unsupported
by facts, while others are simply exaggerations of a
very real potential effect.

Let's skip over cocaine for a moment, and look at
Focus Factor; advertisements have offered a money
back guarantee if this combination of whatever it is
fails to have a beneficial effect, and that's a bit
unusual since a lot of folks will try and get their
money back regardless, and that's expensive.

Caffeine can cause premature mental burnout if
not utilized carefully, but there can be no doubt as
to its efficacy in aiding mental alertness -- for a
while anyway.

Multivitamins largely remedy deficiencies of
legitimately-needed chemicals, but this nevertheless
can help in cases where any are in short supply.

My guess is that cocaine, *if* detectable apart from
other similar drugs, could be banned outright. But
with caffeine -- a legal drug -- a fairly high limit
would need to be set so that everyone is on a level
playing field. That, or allow unlimited doses, and
see what happens to the slow thinkers. I think the
others I mentioned are complex combinations of
things, and as such it may be impractical to try and
regulate them, even assuming that is a good idea.
No doubt many more chemicals or drugs or herbs
could be added to this list.

I think it is fairly likely that those who are obsessed
with this issue are so on account of another drug --
marijuana -- which is not even relevant here (unless I
am mistaken). I seriously doubt that use of marijuana
is the target of such testing, since it likely has a
*detrimental* effect on chess play. So you guys can
relax. But remember that you are still polluting your
lungs with smoke -- even if there is no nicotine in it.
This also explains a lot as far as the incoherence of
certain of your arguments... .


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Old November 2nd 07, 03:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Nov 2, 8:45 am, " wrote:

If "every woman in the world" except Susan Polgar was awarded 100
rating points,
that would mean that two-out-of-three of the Polgar sisters got 100
free rating points; that hardly argues for an anti-Jewish bias in
FIDE, but it does show how ratings can be manipulated, just as they
were in the USCF (it is possible that the intended victim in that case
was in fact Jewish -- I don't know). -- Unhelpful Bot

It didn't matter whether her sisters got 100 free points or were even
on the list when this fiasco occurred. Susan Polgar, born in 1969, was
17 in 1986.
Sofia Polgar, born in 1974, was only 12. Judith Polgar, born in 1976,
was only 10.

The purpose of cheating Susan Polgar out of 100 points was to bump her
from the top of the women's rating list to number two behind a Soviet
player during a heated FIDE presidential campaign at Dubai in 1986. It
was part of a ploy by Campo to secure votes from the Soviet bloc.



There you are. The argument that this was done so as to
victimize Jewish chess players doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
GM Evans tossed this out as an example of anti-Jewish
activity by FIDE, but even his minions want to allow that
it was just an effort to garner votes.

Now leaving aside the idea that even at ten years of age
Judit Polgar might have beaten Mr. Parr in a set match,
let me point out that among all these female players who
were handed free rating points, many were very likely
Jews, so the "reasoning" just doesn't work in the real
world. All GM Evans needs to do is find a real example
to demonstrate his point, and substitute it for this faulty
one.


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Old November 2nd 07, 09:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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NO ANTI-SEMITISM?


THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 115)

Libyan Fiasco

FIDE, a 163-nation world chess body, has awarded its next 128-player
world championship to Libya in 2004. Jews are excluded.

This decision violates the spirit and charter of FIDE which says no
event will be held anywhere that bars entry to eligible players. The
announcement came with pictures of FIDE president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
playing chess with Moammar Al Qaddafi, who is offering about $2
million in prizes.

Qaddafi's son, who heads the organizing committee, stated: "We did not
invite nor will we invite the Zionist enemy to the competition."

Boris Gulko, former champion of both the USSR and USA, is boycotting
the event along with most top players: "Our magnificent and noble game
does not deserve such a disgrace," he said.

It's not the first time FIDE has bowed to Arab money. In 1986 the
Chess Olympiad was held in the United Arab Emirates where an Israeli
team was banned.


help bot wrote:
On Nov 2, 8:45 am, " wrote:

If "every woman in the world" except Susan Polgar was awarded 100
rating points,
that would mean that two-out-of-three of the Polgar sisters got 100
free rating points; that hardly argues for an anti-Jewish bias in
FIDE, but it does show how ratings can be manipulated, just as they
were in the USCF (it is possible that the intended victim in that case
was in fact Jewish -- I don't know). -- Unhelpful Bot

It didn't matter whether her sisters got 100 free points or were even
on the list when this fiasco occurred. Susan Polgar, born in 1969, was
17 in 1986.
Sofia Polgar, born in 1974, was only 12. Judith Polgar, born in 1976,
was only 10.

The purpose of cheating Susan Polgar out of 100 points was to bump her
from the top of the women's rating list to number two behind a Soviet
player during a heated FIDE presidential campaign at Dubai in 1986. It
was part of a ploy by Campo to secure votes from the Soviet bloc.



There you are. The argument that this was done so as to
victimize Jewish chess players doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
GM Evans tossed this out as an example of anti-Jewish
activity by FIDE, but even his minions want to allow that
it was just an effort to garner votes.

Now leaving aside the idea that even at ten years of age
Judit Polgar might have beaten Mr. Parr in a set match,
let me point out that among all these female players who
were handed free rating points, many were very likely
Jews, so the "reasoning" just doesn't work in the real
world. All GM Evans needs to do is find a real example
to demonstrate his point, and substitute it for this faulty
one.


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On Nov 2, 4:45 pm, " wrote:

FIDE, a 163-nation world chess body, has awarded its next 128-player
world championship to Libya in 2004. Jews are excluded.

This decision violates the spirit and charter of FIDE which says no
event will be held anywhere that bars entry to eligible players. The
announcement came with pictures of FIDE president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
playing chess with Moammar Al Qaddafi, who is offering about $2
million in prizes.


Money is the trump card, as usual. If the USA were not so
despised the world over, this would be something of an insult
in that "we" could not raise even more than "them". Of course,
they will not hold the event in the same country, over and over.


Qaddafi's son, who heads the organizing committee, stated: "We did not
invite nor will we invite the Zionist enemy to the competition."


Not all Jews are "Zionists". The choice of an Arab country
as venue brings to the fore such issues as this, and it is
most unfortunate that "we", the United States, are not in
a good position to step in and provide a solution.

Oddly enough, I believe if the situation had been reversed --
with Israelis playing and Arabs excluded -- the effect would
have been much smaller, and this only highlights the poor
judgment of going for Arab money over other considerations.


Boris Gulko, former champion of both the USSR and USA, is boycotting
the event along with most top players


Some of the top players were not involved in the cycle
at this particular stage, being seeded in later on. That,
along with quick time controls and the Israeli boycott,
made this event seem rather lame.


It's not the first time FIDE has bowed to Arab money. In 1986 the
Chess Olympiad was held in the United Arab Emirates where an Israeli
team was banned.


And where do these Arabs get all of that money?
A: from "us", the United States. We buy their oil, turn
it into gasoline or plastics, and consume it wantonly.


I note that Larry Parr attached an earlier post of mine to this
one, apparently believing that changing the subject would be
a good idea, rather than trying to defend GM Evans' choice of
examples. I agree. This was a much better example of FIDE
victimizing Jews; however, the motive appears to be money,
not anti-Jew bias. If say, Israel, were to offer to put up prize
money of ten million dollars for a future Olympiad, I expect
FIDE would leap on it and scr*w over the Arabs just as fast.
/That's just the way they are./

Arabs have lots of money on account of geography and our
addiction to oil, and they are spending it in the strangest of
ways. In the middle of a patch of desert there appears --
almost overnight -- a skyscraper, an underwater hotel, an
enclosed ski resort, etc. They have the money; they can
get whatever they want (why they would want chess
escapes me).


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