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On Nov 9, 5:18 pm, help bot wrote:
On Nov 9, 12:47 am, Sanny wrote: I played the games between Jester & Easy Level. Play a few games with Easy Level they will play as good as Jester. I played with default settings in Jester Vs Easy Level. For the record, at default levels Jester plays a move in just three seconds. I am seeing that Zebediah yesterday played 2-3 games with Beginner Level. He managed to beat Beginner level in just 13 moves. While others take 50-60 Moves to beat the Beginner Level. I just replayed that game. While it is possible that this was a well-known book trap, it looked a lot like a decentchessprogram which got lucky whenGetClubrefused to defend its King. Generally speaking, all otherchess programs value the King, and they use tactical search extensions whenever there is a check or capture to avoid this sort of fiasco. BTW, if it was a well-known book trap, your team should be congratulated for getting the program to find all the book moves up to where it went astray -- that's quite an improvement. Also note that Zeb played exactly three games vs. the Beginner level; probably this was because your site claims you get one-third of a point for each win. Beating the Beginner level three times takes far less time than a single game against the Master level, or even the Normal level since it plays much tougherchess. The reasion you loose with jester is that it has very small board to analyze whileGetClubBoard is quite Big to analyze. While it is true I don't like the graphicchessboard and that the dark pieces on a dark backgrround are difficult to see, I believe I lost because Jester played very much like Fritz -- good, solid moves. How it manages to play poorly in your tests escapes me, but I could simply conduct my own tests and report the results here. Want to bet what the outcome will be? :D FurtherGetClub shows what move it is thinking So you get an idea what it is going to play. GetClubdisplays "thinking on Queen" or something to that effect; that is not the same as revealing the move it intends to play! There could be ten legal moves for that piece, or it could simply not be up to date. Generally speaking, except against the Beginner level, I switch to another "tab" instead of dying of boredom watching thechessscreen while the program thinks. Thinking on Pawn, Thinking on Queen ... And you know what is going in GetClubMind. So you get more time to descide your move. I will take that as indicating that what is on the display is the best move found so far; I was not aware of that. Manychessprograms will display the move they are *currently analyzing*, even if it is believed to be a titanic blunder. Now Easy Level atGetClubplays as good as Jester. And in 4 Matches I feel It will give 2-2 Score. Few will believe your test results, since you were reporting dramatic improvements which no one else could seem to "see", seemingly for decades before the noticeable improvements came along. Now many of the meanies or critics have disappeared -- just when your cries of "wolf!" are becoming genuine. I can feel the strength improving, but the entire village has turned a deaf ear. My Computer is P-IV 2.5 Ghz 512 MB RAM. So it is Quite fast. How do you know whether the limited resources are fairly apportioned between the two Java applets? It seems to me that your reported games show Jester playing much weakerchessthan what I experienced, though I gave it a bit more time per move. Perhaps you need to utilize two computers, or perhaps this is not even possible without some tweaking by an expert. -- help bot Yesterday there was a bug which was making it mplay badly. Today that bug was spotted and removed. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html |
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On Nov 9, 5:12 pm, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
In rec.games.chess.computer Sanny wrote: Here is what I think. Beginner: 1700 Easy: 1800 Normal: 1900 Master: 2000 Advance: 2100 Recently the game was improved now Higher Levels will play much stronger Games. So Sanny ... you didn't address the subject of the thread. Did you fake the match? -- Thomas T. Veldhouse When the ax entered the forest, the trees said, "The handle is one of us!" -- Turkish proverb There is no fun in showing Fake Games. I always try to give correct information. I only show those matches where GetClub Wins the Match So if 1/3 Matches the GetClub Easy level Wins I only show the game in which getclub wins. And Other games where it lost I do not show them. Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Playing Chess is more fun when playing with your mind instead of help from other Computer. I use other programs to see how GetClub performs with them. So that if any mistake is found that is removed. Yesterday The game was playing the worst in last 2 months due to a bug. That bug has been removed so I think now it will play descent game. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html |
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